hm, you just said a few hours ago that the 120w chip will be equal to a 1080 Ti, and that the GV106 will be the 1160.
You're all over the place now.
Predictions are fun, but maybe take a breath before so that you don't change twice a day.
$749 ,180 watt will be the gtx1190, and will be 40% faster than a gtx1080ti.
$600 ,150 watt will be the gtx1180 and will be 20 % faster than a gtx1080ti.
$500 ,120 watt will be the gtx1170 and will be as fast as a gtx1080ti.
$350 , 100 watt GV106, gtx1160, will equal a gtx1080.
All three will be GV104 chips.
And later a GV106, gtx1160 chip.
Thats my guess, give or take 5%.
A gtx1060 is 120 watts correct?
12nm will give a 40% power reduction. The next card performing in the 1060 bracket should not use a 6 pin connector.
Wasn't a gtx1060 as fast as a gtx980? And it was a gp106 chip.
I believe the next 1160 will be a cut down GV104 chip. The gtx1160 will be good competition for a Vega 64, should be a gtx1070ti equal.
The next GV106 chip (1150ti) will be as fast as a gtx1060 or faster.
you misread his post. there's a comma in there that separates the clauses.Please quote the message I stated the gtx1160 will be as fast as a gtx1080ti.
I thought I said gtx1080, I will correct it. I cant find it.
Thanks
Thank you, I see now....you misread his post. there's a comma in there that separates the clauses.
you did say GV106 [will be] the 1160, then later said you expect the 1160 to be a cut down GV104.
also, considering that the maxwell --> pascal move was a 2 node die shrink, whereas this seems to be a half node, expecting the same jump in performance (i.e. 980 ~ 1060) is probably a bit optimistic. though nvidia could just up the transistor budget and die size, these chips are plenty small.
12nm is a LPP , I expect a 40% reduction in power for the same performance as Pascal.also, if you are expecting 40% power reduction for similar performance, you'd be hitting 150 watts for 1080Ti level (assuming the 1080Ti has adequate cooling), as it's a 250 watt card. maybe you did the fractional math backward?
12nm is a LPP , I expect a 40% reduction in power for the same performance as Pascal.
What they do with that 40%, I dont know exactly, but I'm sure performance will increase plenty.
The gtx1180 should be 150 watts and be faster than a gtx1080ti, unless they have to clock it through the roof,and lose efficiency.
yepSo you're expecting a 40% power reduction AND a 20% performance improvement from a half node shrink?
Yes much faster, great upgrade.One thing I am wondering about is what is the performance of the 1170 is in comparison to the 970? A worthy upgrade?
The dGPU I had before the 970 was a GTX 760 w/ 4GB and not only was the 970 noticeable faster, it was also smaller, used less power, and ran much cooler.Yes much faster, great upgrade.
45% faster off the top of my head, Mabe more.
FWIW: Latest Pricing rumor from WCCFTECH:
https://wccftech.com/nvidias-next-g...cifications-pricing-and-nomenclature-details/
- The 120W NVIDIA next-gen Turing GPU will be priced around $499 MSRP.
- The 150W NVIDIA next-gen Turing GPU will be priced around $599 MSRP.
- The 180W NVIDIA next-gen Turing GPU will be priced around $699-749 MSRP.
yep
Check the gtx780 vs the gtx980 that were on the SAME 28NM node.
It's definitely possible.
Unfortunately for Nvidia I'm one those folks who thinks spending more then $250 to $300 for video card is simply a really silly thing to do.No, I'm pretty sure Nvidia won't price the 1160 at $500 because prices never jump so much in one generation. You cannot shock the customers with prices, it has to be gradually done. I believe 1160 will start at no more than $349. 1170 however should be $500.
They already did that.But they renamed cards.They renamed GTX660TI and call it GTX680 and sell it for 500USD instead of 250USD.No, I'm pretty sure Nvidia won't price the 1160 at $500 because prices never jump so much in one generation. You cannot shock the customers with prices, it has to be gradually done. I believe 1160 will start at no more than $349. 1170 however should be $500.
BS. There was never a x60 card with a 256mb bit bus. Assuming they called the 680 a 660ti... that would have put AMDs graphics division out of business. AMDs flagship at the time was the 7970. So imagine that $250 660ti on par or beating the 7970.They already did that.But they renamed cards.They renamed GTX660TI and call it GTX680 and sell it for 500USD instead of 250USD.
Same with TITAN they basicaly renamed what supposed to by GTX680 and call it TITAN and price it at 1000USD instead of 500USD.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/287/geforce-gtx-560BS. There was never a x60 card with a 256mb bit bus
GTX 560 and the similar 460 had 256 bit. The 260 even had a 448 bit bus.BS. There was never a x60 card with a 256mb bit bus. Assuming they called the 680 a 660ti... that would have put AMDs graphics division out of business. AMDs flagship at the time was the 7970. So imagine that $250 660ti on par or beating the 7970.
Yea AMD did the same thing.instead of releasing the full fat fury x chip they gave us the 290x/390x mid range chip and then charged us $650 for the real high end Fury X.https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/287/geforce-gtx-560
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/273/geforce-gtx-560-ti
They renamed GTX660TI to GTX680 because 7970 was underclocked so they saw opportunity how double prices and get away with it.Thats why they double margins in kepler era.
GTX680 was first x80 card with midrange DIE.To that day x80 card was always fastest single card from Nvidia with biggest DIE.
My bad, missed the way older cards. Speaking of kepler and beyond. Point still holds, you cant have a midrange card = competitions flagship performance at half the price. Unless you want to be accused of trying to put them out of business .GTX 560 and the similar 460 had 256 bit. The 260 even had a 448 bit bus.
How do these cards look for mining? Better / worse than a $200 RX 570 4GB (Newegg has a ShellShocker for one for $210 today, AR, so I figure that's the price they're heading to soon)?