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beginner99

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It's would also be the largest die ever (and price per area is increasing) in a Ti card, and NVidia has no real competition, so it only makes sense that it would be the most expensive Ti card ever. Titan V is $3000, so Titan T at $2000 or more is also expected.

Anyone expecting a revolutionary new card, with a massive 754 Sq-mm die, for $800 is setting up for a disappointment.

If the spec leaks are correct, and 2080 Ti is using the RTX 8000 die, and 2080 using the TRTX 5000 die (~500 sq-mm) then I expect massive price increases across the board.

i liked your post but in reality I don't like the content at all even though I think ti will be true. NV has no incentive to sell a 2080 for $649 if it outperforms a Titan V (OK, titan v wasn't really faster than a 1080 ti). The only reason they would make them cheap is to spread adaption of the ray tracing hardware which will be useless unless implemented in games. However given it's NV this is very unlikely. What is more likely is a high price and them paying game devs to implement their NV CrapWorks tech now with some unneeded ray tracing stuff that will make the games unusable on AMD hardware or their own old cards.

As for the titan V, that is actually a reasonable price if you think of it as a card for companies starting with deep learning.
 

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crisium

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More evidence that 2080 Ti launches at around the same time as 2080?




Source: https://videocardz.com/newz/exclusive-msi-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-gaming-x-trio-pictured

Unless this is a photoshop job (though Whycry should be able to filter those out), this also confirms the same VRAM as current gen.

I may have to peddle back my comments from yesterday. If we get 2080 Ti 11GB in 2018, then that increases the chances of a 3080 12GB or 16GB on 7nm in 2019. It'd be unusual to not have a gaming GeForce flagship launch in a calendar year, and the lack of VRAM increases points to a transitional gen.
 
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Karnak

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Same amount of VRAM... ugh. If the 2080 isn't way faster than a 1080ti, I see no point in buying one as long as you can buy a 1080ti.
 

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This looks more transitional meaning they aren't that far from 7nm and possibly will have something even better in 2019. It's like they couldn't do very high end this year so they cut it down where the 2080ti is more in line with the 2080 since vram is similar. Allowing them to sell a better version in the spring next year.
 
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linkgoron

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Looks like it's time for my first Nvidia card since my 6600GT (I've bought several AMD cards since then). I was planning on buying a new Vega card, before the launch, but we all saw what happened there. Can't say I'm happy going Nvidia, but AMD is just too far behind.

If they release the 2080ti now, I assume that they'll release a 7nm 3080 in 2019 and a 3080ti in 2020.
 

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Pretty sure, that RTX will be limited for the high end range.
We will get Pascal refresh/rebrands though, since the OEM want a new lineup in very year.
 

PeterScott

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More evidence that 2080 Ti launches at around the same time as 2080?




Source: https://videocardz.com/newz/exclusive-msi-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-gaming-x-trio-pictured

Unless this is a photoshop job (though Whycry should be able to filter those out), this also confirms the same VRAM as current gen.

I may have to peddle back my comments from yesterday. If we get 2080 Ti 11GB in 2018, then that increases the chances of a 3080 12GB or 16GB on 7nm in 2019. It'd be unusual to not have a gaming GeForce flagship launch in a calendar year, and the lack of VRAM increases points to a transitional gen.

11GB isn't exactly a lack of VRAM. Show me a game that needs more than 8GB. You increase what is necessary, not randomly bump specs. RAM is horridly expensive right now. Putting in more their just to bump the spec sheet, would just needlessly raise prices.

All the 11GB really means is the potential for 12GB Titan. Though it does seem odd to get the x80Ti before the Titan.

11GB gives more credence to the rumor that this has the same 754 sq-mm die as the RTX 8000. Which IMO means there isn't much of a performance bump on the near horizon. I would just expect a die shrink when of that monster die when it becomes cheaper to do on 7nm.

If the rumors are true, the 2080 is pretty damn sweet with revolutionary RT HW, and the 2080 Ti is that to BEAST level.
 

Karnak

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6 and 8 pin for the 2080 FE? Probably higher clock rates? Or maybe the whole ray tracing stuff? Don't think tensor cores are going to make a difference.
 

DooKey

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2080 Ti is going to be a beast. I'll have to get one and put my 1080 Ti in the backup system.
 

sze5003

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Curious about the dual 8 pin connector. Aren't they usually dual 6 pin connectors? I don't remember what mine is on there now. Glad I got a modular psu but it's still a pain to connect new cables.
 

ozzy702

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Curious about the dual 8 pin connector. Aren't they usually dual 6 pin connectors? I don't remember what mine is on there now. Glad I got a modular psu but it's still a pain to connect new cables.

Nice 1080TIs have had dual 8-pin as standard and even high end 1070s came with dual 8-pin configs despite the FE cards coming with a single 8-pin. It's really up to the manufacturer.
 

crisium

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1080 FE was single 8-pin.
1080 Ti FE was 8-pin + 6-pin.

They don't do dual 6-pin anymore since that is simply the same power as a single 8-pin. It was common back in the day for PSU compatability and some AIBs might still do it but there's no need anymore.

And yeah AIBs can do whatever they want. There are triple 8-pin cards out there, even though dual 8-pin is already good for 375W.

It is interesting if 2080 FE will be 8+6. 225W not enough so they are raising it? Maybe they are really pushing the clocks.
 

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Curious about the dual 8 pin connector. Aren't they usually dual 6 pin connectors? I don't remember what mine is on there now. Glad I got a modular psu but it's still a pain to connect new cables.

That is expected- the chips are huge, even the smaller TU104 that is used in 2080. AMD will be fine in comparisson in efficiency, and chip size, as long as they release their 7nm sooner than later.
 

jpiniero

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They don't do dual 6-pin anymore since that is simply the same power as a single 8-pin. It was common back in the day for PSU compatability and some AIBs might still do it but there's no need anymore.

Pretty sure 6-pin is an additional 75W, 8-pin is 150. Plus the mobo which gives 75 W.
 

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O AMD, AMD! wherefore art thou AMD?

Seriously now, even with this 12nm, a glorified 16nm, being customized for NV, it should really be using more energy given the increase in processing power. This generation reminds me of the past, big dies, unashamed to use power, and as speculated, destined for a short life.
 

sze5003

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Well I'm curious for what they will announce Monday. If the Ti really will be sooner than we think I will be glad to upgrade, won't happen right away of course because I want after market.
 

ozzy702

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O AMD, AMD! wherefore art thou AMD?

Seriously now, even with this 12nm, a glorified 16nm, being customized for NV, it should really be using more energy given the increase in processing power. This generation reminds me of the past, big dies, unashamed to use power, and as speculated, destined for a short life.

Yeah, unfortunately AMD won't have anything close to these GPUs until 2020+ and by then NVIDIA will have 7nm behemoths dialed.

Yup, it's a huge die and they're pushing clock speeds through the roof but I bet they're super efficient if kept at lower clocks. I wonder how they will mine...
 

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I wonder if I should be thinking about upgrading my 4790k if I pick up a 2080ti?
 
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