GeForce GTX 480 Box Shot

[TJ Tom]

...and they have them readily available.

Not here they don't.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Not here they don't.

Well, I don't know where you are. Here in the US they're easy to find. I'm just trying to make the point that AMD has a complete line of DX11 cards out and available, I don't see how Nvidia launching a couple of cards will put them in a better position, especially if the fastest one fits between AMD's fastest and second fastest part.

For Nvidia, I see this a lot like the 2900XT launch... late and not enough, but a good platform to build from that future cards will benefit from. Just a hunch.

 

[happy medium]

I for one don't care if Nvidia released late. There really isn't many games that are pushing gtx 260/4870 1gb performance anyway.

I'm about half way through Bad Company 2 with my 5750 @1600x1200 high settings.

We all know this much.
Gtx 480 will use more power and mabe run a bit hotter depending on the cooling solution.
It will launch on the 26th.

WE have NO idea about price.
We have NO idea about performance.
We have NO idea about avalability at launch.
We have NO idea about mid range parts, or launch dates ,performance or prices.

If someone has some official links to any of this information, PLEASE post them.

Here are the rumors.

GTX 480 uses 225 watts
GTX 480 is about 30% faster then the 5870 ,but slower then the 5970.
GTX 470 is a tad slower then the 5870.
There will be a dual Fermi card.
Dual Fermi will use to much power for the pci-e spec.
GTX 480/470 will be about 500$/350$.
GTX 480 is only 5% faster then a 5870.
There won't be no real avalability till MAY.
No mid-range cards for 6 months

The list goes on and on and on.

But the fact is NO one really knows shit.

 

[Genx87]

I don't necessarily agree. All that means is that they'd have a high end part that is slightly faster than a 5870. AMD has a complete line of DX11 parts out, and they have them readily available. If Nvidia can win a few benchmarks against the 5870, they're still slower than the 5970. What is Nvidia competing with at $150? $200? $275?

If Fermi comes out and gives you 5% more performance than a 5870, I don't see them in doing better, at least not yet. And we're assuming that e-tailers will have them in stock past the launch day, which I'm guessing isn't likely.

Do you remember the FX5800 vs R300 days at all?

 

[Creig]

When the FX 5800 released the ATI part got 70fps and the 5800 got 60. If Nvidia's 480 gets 74 and the 5870 gets 70. Then Nvidia is in a better position than they were during the 5800 debacle.

Not necessarily. Pricing and availability will also be major portions of the equation while temps, power consumption, overclockability and noise levels will make up most of the rest.

 

[ilkhan]

2x DVI-I + mini-HDMI? Is it possible it'll support triple monitors? (my dual 24s have a 20" brother who would love to play too. I've been considering a 5830/5850 for just that reason.)

 

[SHAQ]

225 watts is probably a little low for the 480 Happy. An 8 pin and a 6 pin can support up to 300 watts since the PCIe slot also provides 75 watts. It will be closer to 260-270 watts I believe as 2 6 pin connectors supplies 225 watts. The rest of your list will have to wait a week or two.

 

[Mem]

If the 480 is faster than the ATI part then Nvidia is actually doing better than the 5800 release. And lets face it. With some people Nvidia cant impress.

Better is a relative term since ATI have had their DX11 cards out for awhile now,I'm actually disappointed on how long its taking Nvidia to get their new products out,performance wise I expect it to be faster but its very late out of the starting block and Nvidia know exactly the performance of the competition so its not that hard to set their target goalposts for their new products,it works both ways so its good for the consumer(apart from the waiting).

Size wise yes its getting scarey how big cards are getting on both sides of the fence.

 

[RussianSensation]

600 watt power supply required...lovely...(green nv isn't green at all)

I am going to call BS on that requirement. This is just for conservative reasons for those cheap 600W 25A power supplies.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-radeon-power,2122-6.html

Actual Current

GTX 280 = 17.0 A
GTX 280 SLI = 26.8 A
4870 X2 = 22.4 A

If this card really needs 42A to power it, it will be easily worth the price of admission since we will never have to turn on heat in the winter in our house. :awe:

 

[OS]

heh, which athlon XP motherboard had PCI-E slots?

 

[SRoode]

I am going to call BS on that requirement. This is just for conservative reasons for those cheap 600W 25A power supplies.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-radeon-power,2122-6.html

Actual Current

GTX 280 = 17.0 A
GTX 280 SLI = 26.8 A
4870 X2 = 22.4 A

If this card really needs 42A to power it, it will be easily worth the price of admission since we will never have to turn on heat in the winter in our house. :awe:

There is an obvious flaw in the table you linked to. 2 identical cards in SLI should draw double the power (and current) if fully loaded. The GTX 260 did reflect this, but the GTX 280 did not. So, it's either a typo in the table or during the GTX 280 SLI test the cards were not actually fully loaded. That being said, the true amp draw for a fully loaded GTX 280 SLI should be around 34A, so I would not be surprised to see the GTX 480 close to that or more.

 

[toyota]

I am going to call BS on that requirement. This is just for conservative reasons for those cheap 600W 25A power supplies.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-radeon-power,2122-6.html

Actual Current

GTX 280 = 17.0 A
GTX 280 SLI = 26.8 A
4870 X2 = 22.4 A

If this card really needs 42A to power it, it will be easily worth the price of admission since we will never have to turn on heat in the winter in our house. :awe:

what? those amp readings in that link are for just the cards. the 42amps recommendation is NOT for the card by itself. its for the entire system which is really nothing extraordinary. they are assuming you will have an overclocked high end cpu and more than a couple of drives.

if little billy wants to put this card in a system with an i5, 1 dvd, 1 hd, and 2 sticks of memory he will be more than covered on a high quality 500 watt psu.

 

[RussianSensation]

what? those amp readings in that link are for just the cards. the 42amps recommendation is NOT for the card by itself. its for the entire system which is really nothing extraordinary. they are assuming you will have an overclocked high end cpu and more than a couple of drives.

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Ya you are right it's for the whole system. Although I am sure NV is not assuming it will be coupled with an overclocked Core i7. Considering 4870 X2 is around 22 A, that leaves about 20A for the rest of the system which is a lot of reserve room on 12V rail. If a single GTX 480 consumes more than 22A, that's not good news!

 

[Wag]

What disappoints me is that it doesn't appear the cards will offer onboard sound again. nVidia has that technology available, you'd think they would offer it, if just to compete with ATI.

 

[nemesismk2]

If this card really needs 42A to power it, it will be easily worth the price of admission since we will never have to turn on heat in the winter in our house. :awe:

See there are positives to having a steaming hot video card which makes me think I should of kept my Gainward Radeon 4850 which used to get 80c. I didn't think about the winter

 

[toyota]

See there are positives to having a steaming hot video card which makes me think I should of kept my Gainward Radeon 4850 which used to get 80c. I didn't think about the winter

the temp the core gets to doesnt really mean anything as its the actual wattage that matters. a 100 watt card that has a poor cooler that lets the gpu get to 100C doesnt heat your room anymore than if the cooler was better and kept gpu temps at 60C. I assume the gtx480 will keep your room pretty warm though.

 

[Axon]

For Nvidia, I see this a lot like the 2900XT launch... late and not enough, but a good platform to build from that future cards will benefit from. Just a hunch.

I feel the same way, though this is all speculation until we see some benchmarks. Bring the wattage down a bit and hand me a good price tag and I'll really be excited about this. Hopefully this architecture sets them up for a mid-upper range card with those kinds of stats.

 

[Creig]

And another GTX 480 retail box, this time from Gigabyte. Although I think they just might want to give it back to their proof-readers one more time before sending it off to the printers:

Gigabyte ATI 5000 Series models now support DirectX11? That's nice to know, but I somehow doubt Nvidia would really want to see an ATI spec listed on the back of an Nvidia video card box. ^_^



And it looks like the GTX 470 box might need a revision or two as well:

How much memory does it really have? Bottom says 1536MB while the side says 1280MB. And a 384 bit interface? Really? I think not.

 

[scooterlibby]

And another GTX 480 retail box, this time from Gigabyte. Although I think they just might want to give it back to their proof-readers one more time before sending it off to the printers:

Gigabyte ATI 5000 Series models now support DirectX11? That's nice to know, but I somehow doubt Nvidia would really want to see an ATI spec listed on the back of an Nvidia video card box. ^_^



And it looks like the GTX 470 box might need a revision or two as well:

How much memory does it really have? Bottom says 1536MB while the side says 1280MB. And a 384 bit interface? Really? I think not.

You realize you're showing pics of the 470 and the 480. Hence the difference in memory. Edit: it is weird that the 470 has two different memory specs on box, though.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

You realize you're showing pics of the 470 and the 480. Hence the difference in memory. Edit: it is weird that the 470 has two different memory specs on box, though.

That is what his comment referred to...

 

[Wag]

Yay! Onboard sound! I suspect PCM only and no bitstreaming like the GT240. Oh well, can't have everything I guess...

 

[Borealis7]

did you hear that? somewhere, in Korea, a guy just facepalmed.

 

[nitromullet]

I wonder if the "mini HDMI" part on the box is correct.

 

[BenSkywalker]

And a 384 bit interface? Really? I think not.

All of the information available indicates that the 470 will be 384bit, that part should be correct(I would wager the 1.2GB is closer to what the 470 is likely to ship with then the 1.5GB).

 

[toyota]

All of the information available indicates that the 470 will be 384bit, that part should be correct(I would wager the 1.2GB is closer to what the 470 is likely to ship with then the 1.5GB).

what info? the gtx470 should be 320bit and you cant have 1280mb of ram on a 384bit bus anyway. the gtx480 will be 384bit and 1536mb.