Geforce GTX 780 Ti unveiled

raghu78

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OatisCampbell

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NVIDIA could have launched this a year ago so I'm not shocked. (and when this and the R290 get to about $400, I'll upgrade my 7970 with one of them)
 

Cloudfire777

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I`m 100% sure this card will be aimed to compete against R9 290X both on performance and price.

And it will be without the FP32 performance Titan is known for, to get more performance out of it.
 

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This better not be priced to high.

So the 290x is rumored to easily beat the 780 and judging from the specs it should at the least trade blows with the titan or lead.

If the 780 ti is a "step below" the titan then it shouldn't even beat the 290x. If it's a step above the titan then it may beat the 290x. (Assuming NV said it's a step below titan like a comment said earlier)

I'm suspecting $400-$450 for the 290 and $500-550 for the 290x.

If the 780 ti is over the 290x price it's just another price gouging card from NV. Hopefully it's not voltage neutered like the rest of the nv cards. If they just use it to gouge it'll be just be a joke. I'm sick of the ridiculous prices of this generation, as well as the pathetic voltage neutering.
 

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Since they are obviously doing this counter the 290x I suspect they will try clock it to beat the 290x if they can (dunno if they care if it beats the horribly overpriced titan). Green fans will flock to the forums to proclaim it an amazing card and suddenly performance will matter even if its 2% faster then the 290x and price won't matter since it will probably cost more, much less the late release since this has been available since "2012" so like years. It will be funny to watch the flip flopping of the positions they have been claiming for the past couple weeks since the 290x has been in the rumor mill where they have been desperately downplaying the 290x's performance and "lateness" etc.

/cynicism
 

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I am guessing this card will replace GTX780 at $649 and be faster than the Titan. Hope it's the fully enabled GK110 card with higher clocks. Pretty amazing what NV has accomplished on the 28nm node after launching the GK104. Compared to the GTX480/580 cards, a fully unlocked GK110 is the greatest leap NV has achieved from node to node other than 7900GTX to 8800GTX. Very impressive.

NV didn't need to do much to beat the 290X. They can gain 15% alone from more units and easily another 10% from higher clocks. The biggest thing is picking out the best chips to keep power consumption under 275W. I think NV can squeeze another 20-25% out of GK110 vs. the 780.
 
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I am guessing this card will replace GTX780 at $649 and be faster than the Titan. Hope it's the fully enabled GK110 card with higher clocks. Pretty amazing what NV has accomplished on the 28nm node after launching the GK104. Compared to the GTX480/580 cards, a fully unlocked GK110 is the greatest leap NV has achieved from node to node other than 7900GTX to 8800GTX. Very impressive.

NV didn't need to do much to beat the 290X. They can gain 15% alone from more units and easily another 10% from higher clocks. The biggest thing is picking out the best chips to keep power consumption under 275W. I think NV can squeeze another 20-25% out of GK110 vs. the 780.

I doubt it will be a fully enabled GK110. Not even Titan is fully enabled. Unless they release a Titan Ultra or something.

I am willing to be the 780Ti is a rebranded Titan with maybe different clocks. And the Titan itself goes away until an Ultra or Titan II is released.
 

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I am guessing this card will replace GTX780 at $649 and be faster than the Titan. Hope it's the fully enabled GK110 card with higher clocks. Pretty amazing what NV has accomplished on the 28nm node after launching the GK104. Compared to the GTX480/580 cards, a fully unlocked GK110 is the greatest leap NV has achieved from node to node other than 7900GTX to 8800GTX. Very impressive.

NV didn't need to do much to beat the 290X. They can gain 15% alone from more units and easily another 10% from higher clocks. The biggest thing is picking out the best chips to keep power consumption under 275W. I think NV can squeeze another 20-25% out of GK110 vs. the 780.

I wonder if they'll strap 7.0gbps vram on it. A 950mhz 15 SMX GK110 would have nearly 30% more horsepower than a gtx780.
 

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I doubt it will be a fully enabled GK110. Not even Titan is fully enabled. Unless they release a Titan Ultra or something.

I am willing to be the 780Ti is a rebranded Titan with maybe different clocks. And the Titan itself goes away until an Ultra or Titan II is released.

Why do you doubt that? Titan was a dual purpose card (aka a gimmick) that came at a time when it was not needed and performance completely unrivaled. Fully enabled GK110's are already for sale and given that GK110 has been in production for over a year now, I'm quite sure Nvidia built up supply for fully functional GK110 chips.

Besides, based on Hawaii's leaks it sounds like Nvidia will need to slightly exceed Titan gaming performance to have any sort of performance advantage of Hawaii.
 

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Is it just me, or does it seem like Nvidia always holds back a little tech so they can counter anything AMD releases.

It was widely thought that the GK110 was supposed to be their 680, but the 7970 underperformed, so they released the GK104 instead. Once the 7970GE was beating the 680 too much, they released Titan, then the 780 and refreshes. Now AMD releases a faster card, so they released a full version of the GK110.

Mantle comes the talk of the town, then Nvidia releases news on G-sync.

I get the feeling Nvidia always sits on a few things to counter anything AMD does, rather than delivering everything when they are ready.
 

smackababy

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With little information other than a name, I can't imagine this is anything other than a "Hey AMD, this is us trying to steal your thunder! Shouldn't have had all those silly delays." by Nvidia.

Not that I'm complaining. If this performs better than the 290x and is priced right, I'd buy one of those instead of a 290x.
 

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I get the feeling Nvidia always sits on a few things to counter anything AMD does, rather than delivering everything when they are ready.

This is how you ensure good profits in every financial quarter, which is what investors want to see.
 

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There is 'value' in what Nvidia are doing. Simply to have the fastest card regardless of near performing 'better bang for the buck' cards competing with it, gives it a sort of brand superiority appeal which many (enthusiasts or otherwise) would pay for. We've seen it with the Titan flying off the shelves in big numbers and we'll likely see it with the 780ti, though at a lower price most likely. If AMD came out with a 3-4% faster card, they would do the same too. Consistent recognition of having the fastest card ever, I believe helps brand image a lot and can trickle down to the lower end cards. This is what I think Nvidia is doing here with the 780ti.
 

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There is 'value' in what Nvidia are doing. Simply to have the fastest card regardless of near performing 'better bang for the buck' cards competing with it, gives it a sort of brand superiority appeal which many (enthusiasts or otherwise) would pay for. We've seen it with the Titan flying off the shelves in big numbers and we'll likely see it with the 780ti, though at a lower price most likely. If AMD came out with a 3-4% faster card, they would do the same too. Consistent recognition of having the fastest card ever, I believe helps brand image a lot and can trickle down to the lower end cards. This is what I think Nvidia is doing here with the 780ti.

I think a lot of people associate when one company has the fastest card overall, they are the best and so are the rest of their products. Which is what helps keep Nvidia at a higher perceived value than AMD. It doesn't help AMD has pretty much accepted their role as a bargain CPU seller.

Plus, being able to offer a slightly better version of your existing faster card helps Nvidia steal the spotlight of a new AMD release. AMD is guilty of the same thing though, as seen with the 7970 and the ghz version.
 

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This is what AMD is waiting for so they can price the 290x at $549.
 

thilanliyan

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Wait till you guys see the REAL high end!

I'm curious as to where this lands in performance. It will be interesting if it is actually FASTER than Titan.
 

Rvenger

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It might make Titan owners a little upset on the gaming side if its faster and cheaper. It will destroy the value by half.
 

badb0y

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Wtf is the point of this card? Isn't the gap between Titan and GTX 780 like 10%?
 

amenx

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Wtf is the point of this card? Isn't the gap between Titan and GTX 780 like 10%?
Big point in this card if Nvidia were to stop making Titans and offer its equivalent or better at a lower price.
 

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Wtf is the point of this card? Isn't the gap between Titan and GTX 780 like 10%?

The safe bet is that it's a Titan with 3GB VRAM clocked higher like a GTX 780 currently is vs a Titan. Without the useless DP performance on a gaming card.

My guess is they know Titan loses to R9 290X or this card wouldn't be needed. So this will allow them to hold fast with a small lead in enough games to still claim supremacy.
 

badb0y

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Wait, so this card is going to be faster than the Titan?

Shouldn't they call it Titan TI or Titan Ultra? Very weird nomenclature, makes it seem like it's slower than the Titan.
 
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