General VR discussion thread

[Aikouka]

My Vive's tracking number arrived tonight. Delivery Monday.

Still nothing here.

 

[Subyman]

My Vive's tracking number arrived tonight. Delivery Monday.

You going to skip the mountain biking outing that day?

 

[Sabrewings]

Still nothing here.

They should be working on April wave 2 soon.

You going to skip the mountain biking outing that day?

Supposed to be riding that morning, but the wife should be home and FedEx is usually mid day around here. Luckily, one of us should be home at some point all day.

 

[Sabrewings]

Luckily, one of us should be home at some point all day.

This has changed. The way the universe works, it will most likely be during the two hours that neither of us will be here today (doggie back issues ). If so, the drive to the nearest FedEx facility isn't too bad I guess. I work tonight anyway, so it's not like I would set up tonight.

Still a bit hopeful that my long time dream of VR will solidify today with a huge box in our possession. Seriously, I've seen pics of the box it comes in and it might give my Obsidian 900D something to be a bit unsettled about.

 

[Aikouka]

So, the HTC order page states that my order is "Pending Fulfillment", so I might be getting it sometime this week. I've had an account with UPS, FedEx and USPS for shipping information for quite a while, so I've already got that stuff setup.

Seriously, I've seen pics of the box it comes in and it might give my Obsidian 900D something to be a bit unsettled about.

I used to have one of those cases, and I eventually (figuratively) dropped it. I got a bit irritated when I opened it to find that my drive rails were rusted and a bottom flap doesn't close correctly. Corsair just has really shoddy workmanship, and for $330, that's just not acceptable. For quite a while, I was all about the Fractal Design Define R5, but now I'm getting annoyed that once you remove the middle drive bay (all drive bays can be removed), the thing has a bad vibration problem. :\

 

[Sabrewings]

It did in fact come in today. I'll be setting it up late tonight or tomorrow, obligations pending.

I used to have one of those cases, and I eventually (figuratively) dropped it. I got a bit irritated when I opened it to find that my drive rails were rusted and a bottom flap doesn't close correctly. Corsair just has really shoddy workmanship, and for $330, that's just not acceptable.

I agree, that's no acceptable at all. I've had mine around a year now and just did a clean out a week ago with no issues like that yet. Hopefully it keeps it up that way, as I love it otherwise.

 

[JSt0rm]

So I think Im leaning towards the vive. The pass through camera and wands are gonna be cool i think. I wonder if you can sit and not walk around though. I dont think I want to stand around all of my gear with that thing.

 

[Sabrewings]

So I think Im leaning towards the vive. The pass through camera and wands are gonna be cool i think. I wonder if you can sit and not walk around though. I dont think I want to stand around all of my gear with that thing.

Yes, you can do sit down experiences with the Vive.

 

[HeXen]

 

[ImpulsE69]

So I think Im leaning towards the vive. The pass through camera and wands are gonna be cool i think. I wonder if you can sit and not walk around though. I dont think I want to stand around all of my gear with that thing.

Just going to say, I would think before dropping $800 on something you would do some research to find that out

 

[JSt0rm]

Just going to say, I would think before dropping $800 on something you would do some research to find that out

Thats why Im asking

You guys see these?

http://thesubpac.com/subpac-m2/

Thats gonna give you the feels of low bass with headphones on. Pretty cool.

 

[Blue_Max]

I hope the motion compensation is better when you're actually using it. Watched some youtube let's-play footage of Job Simulator and gave me nasty motion sickness! Worst I've ever had in a game!

 

[Sabrewings]

I hope the motion compensation is better when you're actually using it. Watched some youtube let's-play footage of Job Simulator and gave me nasty motion sickness! Worst I've ever had in a game!

If you do any kind of compensation like that in the HMD, you will make the user sick. It made you sick watching the video because you didn't have the same inner ear inputs that the player you were watching had from actually movimg that way. The head isn't as steady as you think. I learned that after mounting my GoPro on my helmet several times.

Within the HMD, you want them to have the most raw and low latency image that corresponds to their movements as possible. The tracking has been shown to have sub millimeter translational jitter and less than a tenth of a degree rotational jitter, so it is accurate.

 

[xantub]

I don't think 'room scale experience' can take off as long as it's tethered. It's cool for showing it to your friends so they go 'cool!' for a few minutes, if that's what you want, but I see it as 3D TVs. That's why I prefer the Rift, saves me over $200 for what I think is what matters, the seated experience.

 

[Sabrewings]

I don't think 'room scale experience' can take off as long as it's tethered. It's cool for showing it to your friends so they go 'cool!' for a few minutes, if that's what you want, but I see it as 3D TVs. That's why I prefer the Rift, saves me over $200 for what I think is what matters, the seated experience.

From the reaction of everyone on r/Vive, that's not the popular consensus. But, you're welcome to your opinion and to purchase what you like. The most popular games on the Vive by play time are all room scale experiences. Now that we can play Oculus Store games too, there is plenty of seated content but everyone is sticking with room scale with the exception of cockpit games (though they aren't the most popular). Gamepad VR is too likely to induce sim sickness and prevents mass adoption. Roomscale works for everyone, even 80 year old grandmothers as tried by one of the game devs family.

You can easily see what people are putting their time into with SteamStats.

BTW, the 3D TV comparison... want to know how I know you haven't tried it?

 

[Kaido]

Thats why Im asking

You guys see these?

http://thesubpac.com/subpac-m2/

Thats gonna give you the feels of low bass with headphones on. Pretty cool.

Wooooooow neat, it's like a bass shaker vest! Looks like they have a seated model as well. I did that to my PC chair once (put a couple of bass shakers in it, along with headphones) - playing FEAR was insanely cool!

http://thesubpac.com/subpac-s2-2/

However...I would like an explanation of this photo off their site:

 

[Worthington]

Their parents told them to go outside and play! so they fired up their VR and loaded up "Woodland Sim"

 

[Kaido]

Thats why Im asking

You guys see these?

http://thesubpac.com/subpac-m2/

Thats gonna give you the feels of low bass with headphones on. Pretty cool.

Bunch of reddit stuff on oculus/subpac & one on the vive as well:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/4e925u/vive_subpac_m2_is_amazing/

That led me to SimVibe:

http://simxperience.com/en-us/products/simvibe/simvibesoftware.aspx

What is SimXperience SimVibe

SimXperience SimVibe is an advanced, multi-dimensional audio based feedback software (for racing simulators and cockpits) that utilizes one to eight bass transducers (ButtKickers, Bass Shakers, etc..) to provide the correct physics based vibrations at each corner of your simulator and throughout the simulator. This greatly enhances immersion and drivability. It's a great companion to our already immersive motion simulators but can be applied to motionless simulators as well.

You'll feel every available detail of the road surface, engine and transmission in the correct placement on your simulator!

How Does It Work

Simply connect one or more ButtKickers / Bass Shakers to your simulator as you normally would and install the Sim Commander Lite (SimVibe) on your Windows 7 PC. Our software does the rest and provides you with true physics based detail throughout your cockpit and complete control of your vibratory feedback experience.

Dang! It will be awesome once motion simulators become more prevalent too. And Leap now has an official developer mount for both the Oculus & Vive:

http://store-us.leapmotion.com/products/universal-vr-mount-pre-order

 

[Kaido]

Their parents told them to go outside and play! so they fired up their VR and loaded up "Woodland Sim"

http://jobsimulatorgame.com/

:awe:

 

[M0oG0oGaiPan]

so who's going rift and who's going vive? both? psvr?

 

[ImpulsE69]

I'm beginning to think it doesn't exist and they are both a big elaborate hoax on me.

 

[JSt0rm]

Bunch of reddit stuff on oculus/subpac & one on the vive as well:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/4e925u/vive_subpac_m2_is_amazing/

That led me to SimVibe:

http://simxperience.com/en-us/products/simvibe/simvibesoftware.aspx



Dang! It will be awesome once motion simulators become more prevalent too. And Leap now has an official developer mount for both the Oculus & Vive:

http://store-us.leapmotion.com/products/universal-vr-mount-pre-order

The cool thing about subpac is it is a backpack so you can use it when standing as well.

 

[Sabrewings]

Thoughts after my first few hours: epic. Every last bit of fun as the 15 minutes I got to demo it in the fall. God damn, The Lab is fun and it's just a taste. Took a break after a few hours and can only think about VR. Hitting up Audioshield tonight. Then Apollo 11, or maybe The Gallery. Ack! Not enough hours in the day!

Ergonomics are much better than the reviews were letting on. It's meant to be worn higher than goggles. The top should be halfway up your forehead. Once adjusted it feels great and I feel no pressure on my nose. The optics are great and the IPD reading in the headset is a great touch. It's not like looking at your 4k screen, but only people who are trying to find something to complain about will whine about the resolution or SDE. Tracking is uncannily awesome, and I love that the battery indicator for the controllers is on their virtual representations. The controllers are comfy and very natural feeling.

There's just so much. It's a rush! Now to eat and get back to it.

 

[JSt0rm]

keep the updates coming. Have you dont any sit down games? Getting sick at all?

 

[Sabrewings]

Not yet. Elite is on my radar, but there is apparently some sort of rendering bug between it and SteamVR. I'd rather wait for that to be worked out. I have lots of room scale experiences in the mean time and if VorpX is Vive compatible soon, man I'm going to lose so much of my life.

Edit: BTW, no sickness. Neither me nor the wife.