George Tenet is Resigning from the CIA

conjur

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From Drudge:

Bush said Thursday that he had accepted the resignation of CIA director George Tenet; deputy will temporarly lead ... 'He's been a strong and able leader at the agency. and I will miss him,' said Bush. 'I send my blessings to George and his family and look forward to working with him until he leaves the agency'... Tenet has been on job since July 1997...
 

GoPackGo

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really not a surprise.

So do you think his book will be out by August or September?
 

Wow, I'm actually quite surprised - he seemed to have a good relationship with Bush. It'll be interesting to see what he has to say about the war in Iraq when he's not constrained by the limitations of his job. After all, the CIA's intelligence was the main reason we went in there.
 

CaptnKirk

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CIA intelligence was not the main reason we went into Iraq.
The Bush Administrations free-form interpretation of the facts
as obtained and presented by the CIA were the reason.

The facts were changed to support a pre-determined agenda.
You can check with the Resident Iranian Spy - Chalabi, for confirmation.
 

GTaudiophile

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
CIA intelligence was not the main reason we went into Iraq.
The Bush Administrations free-form interpretation of the facts
as obtained and presented by the CIA were the reason.

The facts were changed to support a pre-determined agenda.
You can check with the Resident Iranian Spy - Chalabi, for confirmation.

Is that what Michael Moore told you to say?
 

Passions

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It is good thing. Tenet was a bad apple. And the CIA intelligence is a joke. Good good.
 

Originally posted by: Passions
It is good thing. Tenet was a bad apple. And the CIA intelligence is a joke. Good good.
If Tenet was a bad apple, why did the Bush Administration trust his agency's intelligence enough to go before the U.N. laying out a plan of attack for the "WMDs?"
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Passions
It is good thing. Tenet was a bad apple. And the CIA intelligence is a joke. Good good.

Your ignorance is astounding.

The CIA's intelligence is only as good as its sources. That's why information is normally vetted before being reported to the administration.

Paul Wolfowitz bypassed that vetting process and starting telling the CIA to give him everything as it came in.
 

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This is yet another sign that Bush is in full retreat mode regarding Iraq. I'll bet Bush gets up every morning and yells at his staff: "GET ME OUT OF THAT FRIGGIN" COUNTRY, NOW!"

Well, that's what I'd be doing if I were waist deep in quicksand in the middle of an earthquake like Bush.

-Robert
 

Passions

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Passions
It is good thing. Tenet was a bad apple. And the CIA intelligence is a joke. Good good.

Your ignorance is astounding.

The CIA's intelligence is only as good as its sources. That's why information is normally vetted before being reported to the administration.

Paul Wolfowitz bypassed that vetting process and starting telling the CIA to give him everything as it came in.



:roll:
 

conjur

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http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-06-03-tenet_x.htm

WASHINGTON ? George Tenet has resigned as CIA director, President Bush announced Thursday, ending the increasingly stormy tenure of a man under fire for the department's intelligence before the Iraq war.

In a brief appearance this morning before leaving for Europe, Bush told reporters he had met Wednesday night with Tenet at the White House.

"He told he me was resigning for personal reasons. I told him I was sorry he was leaving," Bush said.

Tenet will serve until mid-July and will be temporarily replaced by Deputy Director John McLaughlin, Bush said.

The president gave no other reason for Tenet's departure. "George Tenet is the kind of public servant you like to work with," Bush said.

"I send my blessings to George and his family and look forward to working with him until he leaves the agency," Bush said.

Tenet had been under fire for months in connection with intelligence failures related to the U.S.-led war against Iraq, specifically assertions the United States made about Saddam Hussein's purported possession of weapons of mass destruction, and with respect to the threat from the al-Qaeda terrorist network.

He has survived rumors for months that he would be forced out of his position. Last summer, he was been blamed for President Bush's unsubstantiated charge in his State of the Union address that Iraq sought to buy uranium for nuclear weapons from Africa.

"The long knives are out, no doubt about it," said Richard Stolz, who headed the CIA's clandestine service under the elder President Bush, said last July. But Tenet survived that controversy.

During his seven years at the CIA, speculation at times has swirled around whether Tenet would retire or be forced out, peaking after the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 and surging again after the flawed intelligence estimates about Iraq's fighting capability.

Even when his political capital appeared to be tanking, Tenet managed to hang on with what some say was a fierce loyalty to Bush and the CIA personnel. A likable, chummy personality, also helped keep him above water.

Conventional wisdom had been that Tenet, who was appointed by President Bill Clinton, did not plan to stay on next year, no matter who won the White House. Tenet has been on the job since July 1997, an unusually lengthy tenure in a particularly taxing era for the intelligence community that he heads.

Key Democrats have called for Tenet's resignation in the past. A week ago, former Vice President Al Gore called for Tenet and several other top administration officials to resign in wake of Iraq developments. The former presidential candidate was gentler on Tenet, describing him as a friend and "honorable man" who should still leave his position for intelligence failures.

On Capitol Hill, Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., called Tenet "an honorable and decent man who has served his country well in difficult times, and no one should make him a fall guy for anything."

Stansfield Turner, the CIA director in Jimmy Carter's administration, told MSNBC that Tenet had "done a good job," but had two major problems: The aftermath of the 9/11 terror attacks and the intense administration pressure to accept the theory of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

"He wasn't shielded from that pressure and he was not given the authority to run the intelligence community," Turner said.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Passions
It is good thing. Tenet was a bad apple. And the CIA intelligence is a joke. Good good.

Your ignorance is astounding.

The CIA's intelligence is only as good as its sources. That's why information is normally vetted before being reported to the administration.

Paul Wolfowitz bypassed that vetting process and starting telling the CIA to give him everything as it came in.



:roll:

Stop rolling your eyes, you ignorant twit, and start educating yourself:

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/072503Leopold/072503leopold.html
 

CaptnKirk

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GT - So you are still trying to defend the indefensible ?

Why don't you just look at the facts for once.

Our intelligence programs are the best in the world, they get it right almost all of the time.
It's only when others try to bring pressure and manipulate the actual facts that the
interpretation of those facts are changed to meet the criteria of the biased observer
for a desired outcome that they fail.

Tenant is no longer going to be in a positon to fall on a sword for this Administration.

Do you not find it odd that the day after Bush secures a private lawyer for representation
in a possible inside the Whitehouse security leak that the Director of the CIA resigns ?
There is knowlede that Tenant has that may - or may not, be damning.
Were you around when the NIxon Administration began playing games with our
nations political structure and was using the office against the citizens ?
Bush and his cronies make Nixons boys look like amatures, but then again
there are a lot of the old 'Core' Nixon 'Boys' that grew up to be Bush's 'Men'.
 
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I give this new kinder, gentler CIA headed by the Clinton-appointed Tenet a resounding, 'No thank you'. Good riddance.
 

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I give this new kinder, gentler CIA headed by the Clinton-appointed Tenet a resounding, 'No thank you'. Good riddance.
Were you saying that when Colin Powell said 'We know where the WMDs are! The CIA told us?'
 

Passions

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Passions
It is good thing. Tenet was a bad apple. And the CIA intelligence is a joke. Good good.

Your ignorance is astounding.

The CIA's intelligence is only as good as its sources. That's why information is normally vetted before being reported to the administration.

Paul Wolfowitz bypassed that vetting process and starting telling the CIA to give him everything as it came in.



:roll:

Stop rolling your eyes, you ignorant twit, and start educating yourself:

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/072503Leopold/072503leopold.html


FREE YOUR MIND!
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Passions
It is good thing. Tenet was a bad apple. And the CIA intelligence is a joke. Good good.

Your ignorance is astounding.

The CIA's intelligence is only as good as its sources. That's why information is normally vetted before being reported to the administration.

Paul Wolfowitz bypassed that vetting process and starting telling the CIA to give him everything as it came in.



:roll:

Stop rolling your eyes, you ignorant twit, and start educating yourself:

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/072503Leopold/072503leopold.html


FREE YOUR MIND!

Already did.

I suggest you give it a try. It's really quite enjoyable.
 
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Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I give this new kinder, gentler CIA headed by the Clinton-appointed Tenet a resounding, 'No thank you'. Good riddance.
Were you saying that when Colin Powell said 'We know where the WMDs are! The CIA told us?'

I found that pretty uncompelling. The fact that Hans Blix said Iraq was not fully complying and that we were finding banned missiles and that there were still unaccounted for WMD material and that Iraq had repeatedly deceived inspectors is what moved me.
 

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I give this new kinder, gentler CIA headed by the Clinton-appointed Tenet a resounding, 'No thank you'. Good riddance.
Were you saying that when Colin Powell said 'We know where the WMDs are! The CIA told us?'

I found that pretty uncompelling. The fact that Hans Blix said Iraq was not fully complying and that we were finding banned missiles and that there were still unaccounted for WMD material and that Iraq had repeatedly deceived inspectors is what moved me.

The banned missiles were found by the inspectors, they were being destroyed and would have been fully destroyed if the US hadn't forced the inspectors to leave.

The Al Samoud missiles were slightly over the approved range, really no biggie and it definently does not explain why the US admin said that they KNEW there were WMD's and where they were.

I really love it how the inspections weren't working because they were decieved and couldn't find any WMD's, well, guess what, the invasion isn't working either, nothing has been found yet.
 

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
The fact that Hans Blix said Iraq was not fully complying and that we were finding banned missiles and that there were still unaccounted for WMD material and that Iraq had repeatedly deceived inspectors is what moved me.
Funny, if you read all of what Hans Blix was saying, you might have learned that "unaccounted for" doesn't mean "must still exist" to experts in the disarmament field.

From the Amazon summary of Blix's book:
Blix stresses that he never trusted Hussein and that inspectors were often misled and stonewalled, but he also points out that they never found any evidence of weapons of mass destruction either. Though Blix welcomes the end of Hussein's brutal dictatorship, his removal was "neither the avowed aim nor the justification given" for the war?-WMDs were the issue. Therefore, he believes the invasion was unnecessary and possibly counterproductive in the long run and is disappointed that they were not given enough time to complete their task. "Containment had worked," he writes. "It has also become clear that national intelligence organizations and government hawks, but not the inspectors, had been wrong in their assessments."

Blix blames "monumental" intelligence failures on the part of the U.S. and Great Britain for most of these errors. In particular, he questions America's reliance on Iraqi defectors over their own intelligence agencies. He further wonders why the U.S. dismissed nearly all of the inspection agencies' findings over the past decade, in essence depriving themselves of a valuable source of information. He concludes that inspections are a worthwhile and effective method of containing potentially dangerous regimes and he believes that too high a price was paid for the war: "in the compromised legitimacy of the action, in the damaged credibility of the governments pursuing it, and in the diminished authority of the United Nations."
 

conjur

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Ooof.

Just saw a bit of Bush's comments about Tenet resigning. I could smell the burn from here! Wow...he really has to work hard to say something that doesn't sound stupid.
 

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I give this new kinder, gentler CIA headed by the Clinton-appointed Tenet a resounding, 'No thank you'. Good riddance.

Once again, its all Clinton's fault. Hilarious.

John Ashcroft will be next...
 

Wag

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I don't understand this president. The guy is resigning and he's still saying what a great job Tenet did.
 

Passions

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Originally posted by: Wag
I don't understand this president. The guy is resigning and he's still saying what a great job Tenet did.

It's protocol. In private, you bash each other. In public, you praise each other. Politics 101.
 
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