George Tenet is Resigning from the CIA

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I give this new kinder, gentler CIA headed by the Clinton-appointed Tenet a resounding, 'No thank you'. Good riddance.

Once again, its all Clinton's fault. Hilarious.

John Ashcroft will be next...

We can hope!

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I give this new kinder, gentler CIA headed by the Clinton-appointed Tenet a resounding, 'No thank you'. Good riddance.

Were you saying that when Colin Powell said 'We know where the WMDs are! The CIA told us?'

I found that pretty uncompelling. The fact that Hans Blix said Iraq was not fully complying and that we were finding banned missiles and that there were still unaccounted for WMD material and that Iraq had repeatedly deceived inspectors is what moved me.

The banned missiles were found by the inspectors, they were being destroyed and would have been fully destroyed if the US hadn't forced the inspectors to leave.

The Al Samoud missiles were slightly over the approved range, really no biggie and it definently does not explain why the US admin said that they KNEW there were WMD's and where they were.

I really love it how the inspections weren't working because they were decieved and couldn't find any WMD's, well, guess what, the invasion isn't working either, nothing has been found yet.

The UN Resolution didn't tell Saddam to allow inspectors to go on an Easter Egg hunt...it demanded he fully comply with disarmament which means exposing and destroying them himself.

Why are you trying so hard to defend the actions of Saddam Hussein? If partisanship has turned you into this, then you seriously need to take a long hard look at yourself.

 

[MonstaThrilla]

From ABCNews.com

'DEVESTATING' SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE REPORT: Linda Douglass reports that according to two senior sources familiar with the Senate Intelligence Committee's report on pre-war intelligence failures yet to be released, findings are "devastating" for Tenet. Democratic sources confirm Tenet was losing support among Democrats because of the conclusions reached by this report. One Republican source predicted Wednesday Tenet might resign before it is released. The report is currently being declassified by the CIA and is expected to be made public on June 17.

 

[Wag]

It's protocol. In private, you bash each other. In public, you praise each other. Politics 101.

I don't buy it. It's not like anyone agrees that he did a good job- in fact, just the opposite. It only make the president look more stubborn, arrogant and out of touch.

Better that he said nothing at all.

 

[ThePresence]

So when does he get a multi-million dollar book deal?

 

[Passions]

Originally posted by: Wag

It's protocol. In private, you bash each other. In public, you praise each other. Politics 101.

I don't buy it. It's not like anyone agrees that he did a good job- in fact, just the opposite. It only make the president look more stubborn, arrogant and out of touch.

Better that he said nothing at all.

Yeah, Tenet screwed up big time. But Bush acknowledging it and saying flat out that Tenet resignig is a good thing makes his own administration look weak. As President on the verge of re-election, he has to look strong. It's really unfortunate that it has come down to this.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I give this new kinder, gentler CIA headed by the Clinton-appointed Tenet a resounding, 'No thank you'. Good riddance.

Were you saying that when Colin Powell said 'We know where the WMDs are! The CIA told us?'

I found that pretty uncompelling. The fact that Hans Blix said Iraq was not fully complying and that we were finding banned missiles and that there were still unaccounted for WMD material and that Iraq had repeatedly deceived inspectors is what moved me.

The banned missiles were found by the inspectors, they were being destroyed and would have been fully destroyed if the US hadn't forced the inspectors to leave.

The Al Samoud missiles were slightly over the approved range, really no biggie and it definently does not explain why the US admin said that they KNEW there were WMD's and where they were.

I really love it how the inspections weren't working because they were decieved and couldn't find any WMD's, well, guess what, the invasion isn't working either, nothing has been found yet.

The UN Resolution didn't tell Saddam to allow inspectors to go on an Easter Egg hunt...it demanded he fully comply with disarmament which means exposing and destroying them himself.

Why are you trying so hard to defend the actions of Saddam Hussein? If partisanship has turned you into this, then you seriously need to take a long hard look at yourself.

How does one expose and destroy what doesn't exist??

 

[DealMonkey]

Wow, it's about time. Only, if it were me, I would have fired his ass right after 9/11. After all, the CIA was formed to prevent another Pearl Harbor. Oooopsee! Oh and then you have the pre-Iraq war intelligence fiasco. Tenet: "WMDs? It's a slam dunk!" Oh brother.

They have an old saying in Tennessee, I think it's Tennessee, well they have it in Texas too, "Fail me once as intelligence chief, shame on me. Fail me twice, don't pass "go," proceed directly to the unemployment line and don't collect $200."

 

[Passions]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
So when does he get a multi-million dollar book deal?

After he runs the whole TV Show, Cable news network, Radio, press, circuit.

 

[MrDingleDangle]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I give this new kinder, gentler CIA headed by the Clinton-appointed Tenet a resounding, 'No thank you'. Good riddance.

Were you saying that when Colin Powell said 'We know where the WMDs are! The CIA told us?'

I found that pretty uncompelling. The fact that Hans Blix said Iraq was not fully complying and that we were finding banned missiles and that there were still unaccounted for WMD material and that Iraq had repeatedly deceived inspectors is what moved me.

The banned missiles were found by the inspectors, they were being destroyed and would have been fully destroyed if the US hadn't forced the inspectors to leave.

The Al Samoud missiles were slightly over the approved range, really no biggie and it definently does not explain why the US admin said that they KNEW there were WMD's and where they were.

I really love it how the inspections weren't working because they were decieved and couldn't find any WMD's, well, guess what, the invasion isn't working either, nothing has been found yet.

The UN Resolution didn't tell Saddam to allow inspectors to go on an Easter Egg hunt...it demanded he fully comply with disarmament which means exposing and destroying them himself.

Why are you trying so hard to defend the actions of Saddam Hussein? If partisanship has turned you into this, then you seriously need to take a long hard look at yourself.

then why not wait till the UN goes in...it should not be the US's job to enforce the UN rules, the UN should..and if they dont want to, spend more time trying to convince them why they should

 

[Hugenstein]

Ashcroft and Rumsfeld will never resign, they are Bush appointees, their failure would be Bush's mistake. And we all know he will never admit to a mistake. Tenet was a Clinton appointee, Blame Tenet = Blame Clinton.

The next couple of days should consist of some good old fashioned Tenet bashing by Bush Administration/Campaign members to discredit Tenet before he has a chance to speak to the media.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Hugenstein
Ashcroft and Rumsfeld will never resign, they are Bush appointees, their failure would be Bush's mistake. And we all know he will never admit to a mistake. Tenet was a Clinton appointee, Blame Tenet = Blame Clinton.

The next couple of days should consist of some good old fashioned Tenet bashing by Bush Administration/Campaign members to discredit Tenet before he has a chance to speak to the media.

All that would do is give Tenet more credibility

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I give this new kinder, gentler CIA headed by the Clinton-appointed Tenet a resounding, 'No thank you'. Good riddance.

Were you saying that when Colin Powell said 'We know where the WMDs are! The CIA told us?'

I found that pretty uncompelling. The fact that Hans Blix said Iraq was not fully complying and that we were finding banned missiles and that there were still unaccounted for WMD material and that Iraq had repeatedly deceived inspectors is what moved me.

The banned missiles were found by the inspectors, they were being destroyed and would have been fully destroyed if the US hadn't forced the inspectors to leave.

The Al Samoud missiles were slightly over the approved range, really no biggie and it definently does not explain why the US admin said that they KNEW there were WMD's and where they were.

I really love it how the inspections weren't working because they were decieved and couldn't find any WMD's, well, guess what, the invasion isn't working either, nothing has been found yet.

The UN Resolution didn't tell Saddam to allow inspectors to go on an Easter Egg hunt...it demanded he fully comply with disarmament which means exposing and destroying them himself.

Why are you trying so hard to defend the actions of Saddam Hussein? If partisanship has turned you into this, then you seriously need to take a long hard look at yourself.

So to state the truth is to defend SH?

You guys need to come up with better things than this, if you're not calling me a partisan it's a nationalist.

What i said was the facts about it, nothing more, nothing less.

I think you need to realize that when the admin said that there were WMD's there and they KNEW for a fact where they were they were lying, saying that doesn't make you anti-american nor does it defend SH for his actions. Saying that the inspectors found the Al Samoud missiles and they were being destroyed is another fact, but if you want to keep your blinders on and run straight forward screaming GO USA even when your own government is lying to you then i wonder who is the partisan here.

That SH was a horrible murdering dictator is another fact, does saying that defend GW?

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Passions
It is good thing. Tenet was a bad apple. And the CIA intelligence is a joke. Good good.

Your ignorance is astounding.

The CIA's intelligence is only as good as its sources. That's why information is normally vetted before being reported to the administration.

Paul Wolfowitz bypassed that vetting process and starting telling the CIA to give him everything as it came in.

As conjur rightly points out, Tenet is just a convenient fall guy for the recklessness and mendacity of the BushCo Boyz. :|

Shrub is starting to sweat.

 

[Crimson]

Originally posted by: conjur
Ooof.

Just saw a bit of Bush's comments about Tenet resigning. I could smell the burn from here! Wow...he really has to work hard to say something that doesn't sound stupid.

Wow.. Conjur using the Bush is stupid argument again.. surprise.. no actual analysis of what he said, just saying he sounded stupid. Nice job Conjur!

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I give this new kinder, gentler CIA headed by the Clinton-appointed Tenet a resounding, 'No thank you'. Good riddance.

Were you saying that when Colin Powell said 'We know where the WMDs are! The CIA told us?'

I found that pretty uncompelling. The fact that Hans Blix said Iraq was not fully complying and that we were finding banned missiles and that there were still unaccounted for WMD material and that Iraq had repeatedly deceived inspectors is what moved me.

The banned missiles were found by the inspectors, they were being destroyed and would have been fully destroyed if the US hadn't forced the inspectors to leave.

The Al Samoud missiles were slightly over the approved range, really no biggie and it definently does not explain why the US admin said that they KNEW there were WMD's and where they were.

I really love it how the inspections weren't working because they were decieved and couldn't find any WMD's, well, guess what, the invasion isn't working either, nothing has been found yet.

The UN Resolution didn't tell Saddam to allow inspectors to go on an Easter Egg hunt...it demanded he fully comply with disarmament which means exposing and destroying them himself.

Why are you trying so hard to defend the actions of Saddam Hussein? If partisanship has turned you into this, then you seriously need to take a long hard look at yourself.

So to state the truth is to defend SH?

No, but you obviously have a very interesting interpretation of what "truth" is as seen in the following quote:

the admin said that there were WMD's there and they KNEW for a fact where they were they were lying,

You're 100% certain Bush deliberatly lied, but you're unsure as to whether Saddam was lying? THAT is what makes you a partisan patsy.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: conjur
Ooof.

Just saw a bit of Bush's comments about Tenet resigning. I could smell the burn from here! Wow...he really has to work hard to say something that doesn't sound stupid.

Wow.. Conjur using the Bush is stupid argument again.. surprise.. no actual analysis of what he said, just saying he sounded stupid. Nice job Conjur!

When Bush starts saying something worthy of analysis, sure, I'll post my own analysis of it.

In the meantime, you could practice what you preach.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
No, but you obviously have a very interesting interpretation of what "truth" is as seen in the following quote:

the admin said that there were WMD's there and they KNEW for a fact where they were they were lying,

You're 100% certain Bush deliberatly lied, but you're unsure as to whether Saddam was lying? THAT is what makes you a partisan patsy.

How does that make him a partisan patsy? It makes him critical of the current administration.

All of the Bush-fans are all too eager to label people critical of Bush as partisan hacks, commie libs, libs, leftists, unpatriotic, traitors, treasonous, etc.

You should open your mind and realize that we are critical of the current administration, regardless its party affiliation.

One day, you'll understand. Until then, enjoy the Kool-Aid.

 

[nickdakick]

Another sacrifice of a pawn

 

[conjur]

Video of Bush's announcement:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5129314/


I had previously caught the part right after he mentions John McLaughlin (sp?). Yeah...a great orator we have in Bush.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
I give this new kinder, gentler CIA headed by the Clinton-appointed Tenet a resounding, 'No thank you'. Good riddance.

Were you saying that when Colin Powell said 'We know where the WMDs are! The CIA told us?'

I found that pretty uncompelling. The fact that Hans Blix said Iraq was not fully complying and that we were finding banned missiles and that there were still unaccounted for WMD material and that Iraq had repeatedly deceived inspectors is what moved me.

The banned missiles were found by the inspectors, they were being destroyed and would have been fully destroyed if the US hadn't forced the inspectors to leave.

The Al Samoud missiles were slightly over the approved range, really no biggie and it definently does not explain why the US admin said that they KNEW there were WMD's and where they were.

I really love it how the inspections weren't working because they were decieved and couldn't find any WMD's, well, guess what, the invasion isn't working either, nothing has been found yet.

The UN Resolution didn't tell Saddam to allow inspectors to go on an Easter Egg hunt...it demanded he fully comply with disarmament which means exposing and destroying them himself.

Why are you trying so hard to defend the actions of Saddam Hussein? If partisanship has turned you into this, then you seriously need to take a long hard look at yourself.

So to state the truth is to defend SH?

No, but you obviously have a very interesting interpretation of what "truth" is as seen in the following quote:

the admin said that there were WMD's there and they KNEW for a fact where they were they were lying,

You're 100% certain Bush deliberatly lied, but you're unsure as to whether Saddam was lying? THAT is what makes you a partisan patsy.

If you say you KNOW something and later on it proves you were wrong, well, then you didn't know it, now did you? Let me tell you that i was a surprised as you regarding the lack of WMD's, but i never said i knew not only that they were there, but even where they were. The lie is obvious. Saddam was a scumbag, but from what is known, he had no WMD's at the time of invasion, i'll just go with the fact and you can continue to believe whatever you like.

When it comes to which US admin does what it really doesn't matter to me what party affiliation they have, why should it, i'm not even American.

 

[tallest1]

The views of the conservatives posting on this thread genuinely show how much of a flip-floper (or blind follower) each of them are:

"The CIA is the best department in the world! How can we NOT trust their intelligence?"
"The CIA is a piece of crap! They screwed us over!"

--AND--

"The UN has brought us closer to world peace and unity"
"WTF, the UN doesn't support the Iraq war?? Fvckin corrupted, naive scumbag cowards!"
"The UN is key to peace in the region"

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Klixxer
If you say you KNOW something and later on it proves you were wrong, well, then you didn't know it, now did you? Let me tell you that i was a surprised as you regarding the lack of WMD's, but i never said i knew not only that they were there, but even where they were. The lie is obvious. Saddam was a scumbag, but from what is known, he had no WMD's at the time of invasion, i'll just go with the fact and you can continue to believe whatever you like.

There's a difference between being wrong and lying. Isn't there? I mean, I'm not sure, but the last time I didn't get a 100% on a test I wasn't indicted on purgery charges.

And, as I've repeatedly said, whether or not they actually find WMD is irrelevent. A man with the resources of a nation like Iraq at his finger tips could have created tons of the stuff in a matter of weeks. It was his non-100%-compliance and decade of deception that made it necessary to remove him from power. If a guy is on parol and fails to show up for a meeting his his parol officer they take him down...they don't assume since he hasn't done anything that he won't.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Klixxer
If you say you KNOW something and later on it proves you were wrong, well, then you didn't know it, now did you? Let me tell you that i was a surprised as you regarding the lack of WMD's, but i never said i knew not only that they were there, but even where they were. The lie is obvious. Saddam was a scumbag, but from what is known, he had no WMD's at the time of invasion, i'll just go with the fact and you can continue to believe whatever you like.

There's a difference between being wrong and lying. Isn't there? I mean, I'm not sure, but the last time I didn't get a 100% on a test I wasn't indicted on purgery charges.

And, as I've repeatedly said, whether or not they actually find WMD is irrelevent. A man with the resources of a nation like Iraq at his finger tips could have created tons of the stuff in a matter of weeks. It was his non-100%-compliance and decade of deception that made it necessary to remove him from power. If a guy is on parol and fails to show up for a meeting his his parol officer they take him down...they don't assume since he hasn't done anything that he won't.

Not according to David Kay.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

How many more reputable members from the CIA, FBI, etc. have to resign for people to see how faulty this administration is? I mean partisan loyalty is absolutely ridiculous that people can stand by Bush in spite of all this nonsense.