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HomerJS

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ahhh now everyone on the right is racist.


When you paint everyone to the right of you as an extremist maybe its because your really the radical one?

While I can't say the Republican Party is racist if there is a racist the odds are overwhelming they are Republican.

I do know the Democratic party has not had public campaigns of overt racism unlike the Republicans
 
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Shut the fuck up you ignorant fuck! Informal investigations? Give me a break!
Pssst. Moron. I was talking about 9/11 Truthers. Ever hear of them?

Now ah heck off, jackass. Every time you've replied to me in this thread I've made you my bitch. One would think you'd be tired of that by now.
 

thraashman

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One hell of a lot of people. Look at his approval ratings after 9/11. It was more than just republicans who were giving him strong approval ratings.

The problem was that the oft claimed "liberal media" was just shilling for the administration after 9/11. And if you criticized his shitty ass job you were attacked as un-American. It's one of the reasons I laugh when the right claims the media is so liberal.
 

Jaskalas

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Jeb Bush must be a new kind of special to say in a debate "My brother..."
When his campaign posters all say Jeb! He knows the public image... goes to great lengths to avoid it... then rolls around in the mud with it.

Like wtf? I think he called it quits right there on stage. At that exact moment he was "I don't want to be here".
 

dank69

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Pssst. Moron. I was talking about 9/11 Truthers. Ever hear of them?

Now ah heck off, jackass. Every time you've replied to me in this thread I've made you my bitch. One would think you'd be tired of that by now.
Aren't 911 Truthers mostly libertarians and not Democrats?
 
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Aren't 911 Truthers mostly libertarians and not Democrats?
There are plenty of libertarian truthers. There are even some GOP truthers. But it would appear that most are democrats, though most polls on the subject are fairly ancient now, at least by internet standards.

Democrats in America are evenly divided on the question of whether George W. Bush knew about the 9/11 terrorist attacks in advance. Thirty-five percent (35%) of Democrats believe he did know, 39% say he did not know, and 26% are not sure. Republicans reject that view and, by a 7-to-1 margin, say the President did not know in advance about the attacks. Among those not affiliated with either major party, 18% believe the President knew and 57% take the opposite view.
 
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soundforbjt

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There are plenty of libertarian truthers. There are even some GOP truthers. But it would appear that most are democrats, though most polls on the subject are fairly ancient now, at least by internet standards.

Link doesn't work. I'd like to see how that question was worded.
 
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fskimospy

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Link doesn't work. I'd like to see how that question was worded.

I think that trutherism or whatever is most prevalent in libertarian circles, but liberals and democrats have a lesser version of it that they are modestly more likely to believe in than others: the idea that GWB let the attacks happen.

That's not nearly as pants-on-head crazy as the whole 'controlled demolition' nonsense, but it's still a pretty dumb idea with exactly zero evidence supporting it.
 

BoberFett

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While I can't say the Republican Party is racist if there is a racist the odds are overwhelming they are Republican.

I do know the Democratic party has not had public campaigns of overt racism unlike the Republicans

Seriously? Democrats are incredibly racist. Their racism of low expectations. Their racism of demanding the minority vote and verbally attacking any minority who dares "wander off the Democrat plantation." Their racism of doing everything possible to keep minorities dependent on Democrats without actually solving their problems.

Don't believe the propaganda.
 

fskimospy

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Seriously? Democrats are incredibly racist. Their racism of low expectations. Their racism of demanding the minority vote and verbally attacking any minority who dares "wander off the Democrat plantation." Their racism of doing everything possible to keep minorities dependent on Democrats without actually solving their problems.

Don't believe the propaganda.

I think that racism in Republicans is generally overestimated and racism in Democrats is often underestimated. That being said, most indicators point to Republicans generally being more racist than Democrats on the whole.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-white-republicans-more-racist-than-white-democrats/

Will you be calling out Republicans for their racism any time soon?
 

ivwshane

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Pssst. Moron. I was talking about 9/11 Truthers. Ever hear of them?

Now ah heck off, jackass. Every time you've replied to me in this thread I've made you my bitch. One would think you'd be tired of that by now.

Goal posts moved! 9/11 truthers are liberals? Ha! You really are an idiot!
By the way you fucking idiot, there is a difference between knowing about an attack before hand and thinking the president had a hand in it!
Go ahead and say something smart, I dare you!
 

bshole

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Seriously? Democrats are incredibly racist. Their racism of low expectations. Their racism of demanding the minority vote and verbally attacking any minority who dares "wander off the Democrat plantation." Their racism of doing everything possible to keep minorities dependent on Democrats without actually solving their problems.

Don't believe the propaganda.

Are you saying that giving minorities food stamps and welfare is racist? It is not like there are a ton of high-paying jobs out there to give them. If you are suggesting a massive jobs programs initiated by the federal government to employ all of the unemployed minorities who are willing to work, then I am not necessarily opposed. In fact, many Democrats may support such thing. I sincerely doubt many Republicans would get behind such an initiative.
 

ivwshane

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Are you saying that giving minorities food stamps and welfare is racist? It is not like there are a ton of high-paying jobs out there to give them. If you are suggesting a massive jobs programs initiated by the federal government to employ all of the unemployed minorities who are willing to work, then I am not necessarily opposed. In fact, many Democrats may support such thing. I sincerely doubt many Republicans would get behind such an initiative.

He wanted to highlight the fact that he doesn't know what racism is because he likes to show everyone how stupid he is, is sort of his thing now.
 

CitizenKain

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LegendKiller

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Are you saying that giving minorities food stamps and welfare is racist? It is not like there are a ton of high-paying jobs out there to give them. If you are suggesting a massive jobs programs initiated by the federal government to employ all of the unemployed minorities who are willing to work, then I am not necessarily opposed. In fact, many Democrats may support such thing. I sincerely doubt many Republicans would get behind such an initiative.

Great idea for a jobs program for minorities. Get rid of illegals that take lower skilled jobs so you can teach minorities how to fish rather than giving them one each day so they have to depend on you.

That won't happen because dems love more dependents and reps love the cheap labor suppressing wages.
 

HomerJS

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Seriously? Democrats are incredibly racist. Their racism of low expectations. Their racism of demanding the minority vote and verbally attacking any minority who dares "wander off the Democrat plantation." Their racism of doing everything possible to keep minorities dependent on Democrats without actually solving their problems.

Don't believe the propaganda.

Everyone in elected office solicits votes. Only Republicans suppress votes.
 
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Goal posts moved! 9/11 truthers are liberals? Ha! You really are an idiot!
By the way you fucking idiot, there is a difference between knowing about an attack before hand and thinking the president had a hand in it!
Go ahead and say something smart, I dare you!
Jesus you really are going for the World Series of morons win, aren't you? And you hittin' it outta da park in the process.

First of all, I said nothing about truthers being liberals. In fact, I said they are composed of nearly every affiliation, but according to the available polls, more likely to be democrats.

Second off, if the president knew about the attack beforehand and did nothing, that president effectively had a hand in it.

Good job again, slugger.

/golf clap
 

BurnItDwn

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Bush implemented gross expansion of "security theater" in the wake of psychotic murderous evil madmen. Then, they kidnapped foreign nationals, and they used unproven, ineffective, dangerous, and inhumane torture methods, mostly on guilty foreign nationals, but possibly on some innocent foreign nationals. Also, we started 2 wars with "bad" countries, and somehow made them worse and even LESS stable. All of this great work happened under his watch.

They will say hindsight is 20/20. George W bush was a fucking blind moron with a samurai sword doing gymnastics inside of a human pyramid. He was pretty much the most dangerous and reckless president in all of American history. He was absolutely a disaster in every measure.
 

BoberFett

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Everyone in elected office solicits votes. Only Republicans suppress votes.

How does that refute the fact that Democrats are also racists who only care about minorities as long as they vote "the correct way"?

Democrats will happily use racial slurs against minorities who vote "the wrong way." Do you deny that?
 

BoberFett

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Bush implemented gross expansion of "security theater" in the wake of psychotic murderous evil madmen. Then, they kidnapped foreign nationals, and they used unproven, ineffective, dangerous, and inhumane torture methods, mostly on guilty foreign nationals, but possibly on some innocent foreign nationals. Also, we started 2 wars with "bad" countries, and somehow made them worse and even LESS stable. All of this great work happened under his watch.

They will say hindsight is 20/20. George W bush was a fucking blind moron with a samurai sword doing gymnastics inside of a human pyramid. He was pretty much the most dangerous and reckless president in all of American history. He was absolutely a disaster in every measure.

Thank god Obama dismantled all of Bush's policies...
 

BurnItDwn

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Thank god Obama dismantled all of Bush's policies...
At best we have temporary banning of inhumane torture instead of criminal trials for all the criminals involved in illegal detainment, illegal censorship, and torture. Obama was able to end that directly during his team.

Obama has failed to pursue time travel technology to undo afgani and iraq wars, that is true, but, if somebody gives you a half eaten shit sandwich, you have to deal with the shit sandwich.

The reality is of course, that, while "under bush" was essentially the worst 8 years of American history since the great depression, much of the blame goes to congress, senate, and most importantly international competition.

In the grand scheme of things, the only thing that really matters is the qualify of living for the majority of Americans. And its been in decline for decades.
 

BoberFett

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At best we have temporary banning of inhumane torture instead of criminal trials for all the criminals involved in illegal detainment, illegal censorship, and torture. Obama was able to end that directly during his team.

Obama has failed to pursue time travel technology to undo afgani and iraq wars, that is true, but, if somebody gives you a half eaten shit sandwich, you have to deal with the shit sandwich.

The reality is of course, that, while "under bush" was essentially the worst 8 years of American history since the great depression, much of the blame goes to congress, senate, and most importantly international competition.

In the grand scheme of things, the only thing that really matters is the qualify of living for the majority of Americans. And its been in decline for decades.

Homeland Security is gone?

And the decades long decline was all Dubya's fault? Why isn't Obama using Bush's time machine? Dammit man, somebody needs to tell him about it!

Bush was a shit president. I agree. I just don't understand why being slightly less shitty than a shitty president means Obama is above criticism. A person can't say anything bad about Obama without Democrats trying to take the focus off him and put it back on Bush.
 
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