George W Bush kept us safe?

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soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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Homeland Security is gone?

And the decades long decline was all Dubya's fault? Why isn't Obama using Bush's time machine? Dammit man, somebody needs to tell him about it!

Bush was a shit president. I agree. I just don't understand why being slightly less shitty than a shitty president means Obama is above criticism. A person can't say anything bad about Obama without Democrats trying to take the focus off him and put it back on Bush.

Considering the repubs have done everything in their power to make Obama as ineffective as possible, it's no wonder he looks as bad as Bush to many.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Considering the repubs have done everything in their power to make Obama as ineffective as possible, it's no wonder he looks as bad as Bush to many.

If there is anything to criticize Obama on it would be his domestic policies regarding citizen safety and terrorism. The fact is that Obama has always supported the patriot act and anybody that isn't aware of this is simply ignorant of history.
 

Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Seriously? Democrats are incredibly racist. Their racism of low expectations. Their racism of demanding the minority vote and verbally attacking any minority who dares "wander off the Democrat plantation." Their racism of doing everything possible to keep minorities dependent on Democrats without actually solving their problems.

Don't believe the propaganda.

Are you saying that giving minorities food stamps and welfare is racist? It is not like there are a ton of high-paying jobs out there to give them. If you are suggesting a massive jobs programs initiated by the federal government to employ all of the unemployed minorities who are willing to work, then I am not necessarily opposed. In fact, many Democrats may support such thing. I sincerely doubt many Republicans would get behind such an initiative.

Giving minorities food stamps is not racist.

Assuming only minorities use food stamps is racist, which is exactly what Bobo is implying.

Of course whites are the largest consumers of aid, but that didn't really work for his narrative, so he just makes shit up and uses racist stereotypes to attack others as being racist.
 
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Giving minorities food stamps is not racist.

Assuming only minorities use food stamps is racist, which is exactly what Bobo is implying.

Of course whites are the largest consumers of aid, but that didn't really work for his narrative, so he just makes shit up and uses racist stereotypes to attack others as being racist.
Whites are also the largest racial group, at least for the time being. Which racial group, according to their demographic percentage in the US, receives the most government aid?

You see, it's all about how you parse the data. And if it was convenient for the left to look at food stamp usage per racial capita, they would have done so. But instead they claim that whites are the biggest consumers of that aid, and turn a blind eye to representative percentages of the population. Quite amazing, but not surprising. Everyone manipulates data when they think they can get away with it.

So who is the real racist here?
 
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Bitek

Lifer
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Try to stay on topic. We're not talking about white people. We're talking about racist Democrats. Clearly that includes you, Mr. Defensive.

You are talking about minorities on food stamps and democratic "plantations" directly implying minorities are predominately on food stamps (else its an ineffective strategy) while calling out that democratic strategy as racist.

Work though your logic. Who's making it racial?

If it's about buying votes with aid, why bring minorities into it, as minorities by definition, are the minority. Wouldn't they be buying white votes in much greater number?

But you don't go there do you?

You are parroting Newt Gingrich BTW, and that hack Jedi mind trick he tried to use in 2012 primaries.

It's was a illogical statement by him then, and he's far more talented.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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It's so surprising that liberals blame Bush for all that is wrong with the world.

Anyone who thinks that it's a simple case of "If Bush hadn't invaded Iraq, everything would've returned to normal" is foolish.

first: what does that mean?

second? who the fuck said anything like this? ...whatever that means? I'm not sure what your fantasy critics were hoping for here. we need some elaboration.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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One hell of a lot of people. Look at his approval ratings after 9/11. It was more than just republicans who were giving him strong approval ratings.

ROFL. What tiny windows of time you set for your data points.



fucking idiots.
 

phillyTIM

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Jan 12, 2001
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We had 9/11 BECAUSE of George W. Bush.

Remember how GWB was home on the ranch that summer 2001; taking the longest vacation ever for a President in the short time he was in office?

I'll save my conspiracy theory about what he might have been up to, for now.

NO, Bush most certainly DID NOT keep us safe!
 
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shady28

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Apr 11, 2004
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Whites are also the largest racial group, at least for the time being. Which racial group, according to their demographic percentage in the US, receives the most government aid?

You see, it's all about how you parse the data. And if it was convenient for the left to look at food stamp usage per racial capita, they would have done so. But instead they claim that whites are the biggest consumers of that aid, and turn a blind eye to representative percentages of the population. Quite amazing, but not surprising. Everyone manipulates data when they think they can get away with it.

So who is the real racist here?

10% of whites are below the poverty line, and 27% of blacks are below the poverty line.

Country population : 318.8M (2014)
White alone, not Hispanic or Latino, percent, 2014 62.1% = 198M
10% of 198M = 19.8M below poverty line
Black only 2014 13.2% = 42.1M
27% of 42.1M = 11.37M below poverty line

Ratio of 11.37M : 19.8M

or .57 blacks to 1 white under the poverty line.

40.2% of food stamps go to whites
25.7% of food stamps go to blacks

For there to be no bias in the system, one would expect the ratio of food stamps going to blacks vs whites to be roughly the same as the ratio of blacks under the poverty line to whites under the poverty line.

Ratio of 25.7:40.2 (food stamps to blacks vs whites)

This comes to .6425 blacks to 1 white getting food stamps. This is a much higher ratio than the ratio of blacks under the poverty line vs whites under the poverty line (0.57:1).

So yep, you're right. A black person under the poverty line appears to be receiving 12% more food stamps than a white person under the poverty line.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
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Yeah seriously I'd rather bbq alligator than engage with close minded conservatives who aren't open to facts, just fear and war mongering.

Hey, BBQ alligator tail is actually quite good. No need to throw it under the bus in this shitstorm.
 
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