George Zimmerman arrested on suspected domestic violence with a weapon

[WHAMPOM]

Looks like the media in the OP is wrong and the thread title is BS....No weapon found.

http://www.newsadvance.com/news/nat...cle_011e74ed-3ce9-5980-acb9-4f01bac05160.html

Get off your denial trip, a weapon is any object that can do physcal harm. If he were a boxer or MMA pro use of fists alone would be considered deadly weapons.

 

[WHAMPOM]

He still had every right not to be assaulted and potentially killed that night.
Nothing he can do, short of a confession to fill in the missing facts of that case, can change that.

As for his recent run ins with the law... his life was destroyed by that night.
He survived the beating, he survived the lynch mob, he survived the trial, but he did not come out of that entire process a whole and healthy person.

Don't see much behavior difference between "before" and "after."

 

[boomerang]

Looks like the media in the OP is wrong and the thread title is BS....No weapon found.

http://www.newsadvance.com/news/nat...cle_011e74ed-3ce9-5980-acb9-4f01bac05160.html

Oh, oh and once again the usual suspects have gotten themselves all wound up. Never forget!

 

[Fern]

So he throw a wine bottle in her 'general direction'; she wasn't hit etc and he gets charged with this?

I also read one article that said it wasn't the woman who called the cops.

The cops are on his azz. He needs to leave FL.

Fern

 

[JEDIYoda]

OH,,,that George Zimmerman!! I thought you meant this George Zimmer -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXgWMH-09U8

 

[Harrod]

At this point if I were him, I would move up to Alaska and get that job like what Liam Neeson was doing in that movie "The Grey". Then when the plane crashes and he walks out of there alive after killing the Alpha wolf, people would finally get that you don't mess with Liam Neeson, I mean George Zimmerman unless you want to be hunted down and killed.

 

[Rakehellion]

Zim Zam just can't keep his hands clean.

 

[allisolm]

I removed all (or as much as I saw) of the tired old rehashing from the Trayvon case. I'm sure there's a thread somewhere here for that discussion. This is about an entirely new incident and arrest.Please keep the discussion to that subject.
admin allisolm

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Yes, a bottle can be considered a weapon. However, without it striking a person it will be difficult at best to prove it was thrown at the person rather than being thrown at the ground or a wall. No witnesses to the incident, a she said said/he said case at best. I seriously doubt he will be convicted for aggravated assault.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Anyone else find it interesting that at this point Zimmerman appears to have committed more crimes than the "thug" he shot?

^^^^^^THIS!^^^^^^

where's Spidey been?

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

You should start an ATP&N butthurt club, you could be the president.

I think that would "honor" would belong to you.

 

[Jaskalas]

Don't see much behavior difference between "before" and "after."

You think he has his life on track with employment / college / personal relationships after becoming a public enemy with a target on his back? Even if he had the potential to be unstable before, as something that's part of him, going through hell isn't going to help.

Where are the bleeding heart types now, to understand and sympathize with a guy who tried to have his !@#$ together - but now is facing too great of odds to be able to cope with it?

I see a guy who could be a good citizen, who tried to protect his neighborhood from crime, got into trouble, and now is teetering on the edge of an abyss. These run-ins with the law prove that the folks in his personal life just aren't cutting it, he's not getting the help he needs.

A lot of folks appear to be eager to see him fall, but at what price? What does that say about us as a society if we are unable to help people get their lives back together? Are we agents of order or chaos? Do we help or harm others?

What sort of society do you want us to be?

 

[Oyeve]

I can't believe the dumbass is still living in Florida. You'd think the thug would be smarter. I guess that's where the psychopaths need to live.

Only Florida would have him.

 

[First]

If GZ's history has proven anything, it's that this is clearly a man who deserves the benefit of the doubt. Crystal clear. No doubt he's clean. None.

lol

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I think that would "honor" would belong to you.

Actually you're the one that can get over this case or the Michael Brown case even though the evidence clearly showed that the jury got it right in both cases.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

If GZ's history has proven anything, it's that this is clearly a man who deserves the benefit of the doubt. Crystal clear. No doubt he's clean. None.

lol

Too bad that pesky ole US Constitution will require the courts to give him the benefit of the doubt and consider him innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt yet again .

 

[cubby1223]

I know it's frowned upon to comment - but, moving the discussion of the original case out of this thread is not the proper thing to do - because this thread is about the original case. It's about those who had strong feelings for the "Martin" side of the situation wanting to shame everyone who were, correctly, on the "self-defense" side of the situation. That is the reason this thread was created. That is the topic to be discussed. Does this new information change the perception of what happened in the original?

 

[cubby1223]

If GZ's history has proven anything, it's that this is clearly a man who deserves the benefit of the doubt. Crystal clear. No doubt he's clean. None.

lol

When what physical evidence was available, sided with the self-defense scenario, that's what the legal system is supposed to do, not convict.

 

[Jaskalas]

Does this new information change the perception of what happened in the original?

No... but I find it sad that he's losing everything regardless. That he isn't finding the help he needs to move on and live a safe and happy life. It seems society has condemned him to a miserable fate and he doesn't know how to do better.

 

[Oyeve]

No... but I find it sad that he's losing everything regardless. That he isn't finding the help he needs to move on and live a safe and happy life. It seems society has condemned him to a miserable fate and he doesn't know how to do better.

That's because the guy's an asshole. His support group realizes that. Hell, he's been arrested 3 times since he got off. When are you pro Zimmerman guys gonna realize your hero is an asshole?

 

[WHAMPOM]

You think he has his life on track with employment / college / personal relationships after becoming a public enemy with a target on his back? Even if he had the potential to be unstable before, as something that's part of him, going through hell isn't going to help.

Where are the bleeding heart types now, to understand and sympathize with a guy who tried to have his !@#$ together - but now is facing too great of odds to be able to cope with it?

I see a guy who could be a good citizen, who tried to protect his neighborhood from crime, got into trouble, and now is teetering on the edge of an abyss. These run-ins with the law prove that the folks in his personal life just aren't cutting it, he's not getting the help he needs.

A lot of folks appear to be eager to see him fall, but at what price? What does that say about us as a society if we are unable to help people get their lives back together? Are we agents of order or chaos? Do we help or harm others?

What sort of society do you want us to be?

Take off the Rose colored glasses man! Loser before, loser after, loser now and forever.

 

[Moonbeam]

You can avoid justice but you can't run from karma

Actually, I think you might have it right. Suppose that God knows he was guilty of provoking TM to the point he could legally murder him with that intention and God, knowing the real facts, is out to make him pay for that? Naturally we as enlightened people don't believe in an interventionist God, most of us anyway, but what if the real facts are that we don't actually have the slightest idea who or what God really is and we are all fated to suffer our Karma, whether we know it or not. What if the wages of sin are death, death understood not in the normal way. What if it't is psychologically true that instant Karma's gonna get ya.

 

[WHAMPOM]

I know it's frowned upon to comment - but, moving the discussion of the original case out of this thread is not the proper thing to do - because this thread is about the original case. It's about those who had strong feelings for the "Martin" side of the situation wanting to shame everyone who were, correctly, on the "self-defense" side of the situation. That is the reason this thread was created. That is the topic to be discussed. Does this new information change the perception of what happened in the original?

Remove all mention of the Trayvon case and you have a guy with long criminal history and a career of abusing women. Why do you love him so?

 

[Jaskalas]

Remove all mention of the Trayvon case and you have a guy with long criminal history and a career of abusing women. Why do you love him so?

I wish him better... why?

Backlash... from watching the public call for the guy's head.
Backlash... against the idea that he shouldn't have defended himself.

He was severely wronged and damaged. Won a trial and still lost... everything. That could have been anyone of us out there that night. Attacked by a teen, and then by a lawless mob.

 

[ivwshane]

I wish him better... why?

Backlash... from watching the public call for the guy's head.
Backlash... against the idea that he shouldn't have defended himself.

He was severely wronged and damaged. Won a trial and still lost... everything. That could have been anyone of us out there that night. Attacked by a teen, and then by a lawless mob.

So his continued bad behavior is caused by the public? I guess when people talk about taking personal reaponsibility and not acting like a thug, that only applies to black people, everyone else gets a pass because "the public".