German soldiers after WWII

[MarkXIX]

And then there is above.

Side that wins? I'm pretty sure US was NOT the only side that won. Russia won......England won......Canada won........it wasn't JUST US effort.

Yet, I have not been taught much of that in US, but knew it well from my country of origin.

Cause let's not forget that WOMEN/CHILDREN and citizens of this country were as big of the winners as military was as well. Without them, supplies would've been dried up/nothing would happen.

No one seems to talk about any of that......or American citizens that lost their freedom cause they happened to have a family member from Japan......then went off to fight in Europe for "their country" and were one of the best units our Army had!

I'm pretty sure our government doesn't want to teach Americans how they stripped them of their rights at their convenience....

You're correct, however, in terms of the US contributions to WWII I think you'll agree that save for some British hardware (Spitfires, etc.), the vast majority of the Allies relied upon the material output of the United States to "win" their portion of the conflict. From bullets to aircraft, the US provided a substantial portion of the war machines and technology used against the Germans. Even the Russians were bolstered by US manufactured trucks that have been attributed to turning the tide of the Russian front in the east. See link below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease

PS - My schools here in the states covered the Japanese internment camps quite extensively as a stain on American decision making during the period after Pearl Harbor. Funny how you can conclude that every American school is somehow deficient compared to the schools of your country of origin...

 

[silicon]

You're correct, however, in terms of the US contributions to WWII I think you'll agree that save for some British hardware (Spitfires, etc.), the vast majority of the Allies relied upon the material output of the United States to "win" their portion of the conflict. From bullets to aircraft, the US provided a substantial portion of the war machines and technology used against the Germans. Even the Russians were bolstered by US manufactured trucks that have been attributed to turning the tide of the Russian front in the east. See link below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease

PS - My schools here in the states covered the Japanese internment camps quite extensively as a stain on American decision making during the period after Pearl Harbor. Funny how you can conclude that every American school is somehow deficient compared to the schools of your country of origin...

If you look into the history of some american corporations, GM, Ford, IBM and Standard oil to name only a few, you will find they enabled the german war machine. A lot of german war material, trucks, gasoline and punch card technology was built by these corporations albeit in factories in germany. Many of the heads of these corps admired Hitler greatly for what he was doing in Germany especially Henry Ford who wanted to deal with the trade unions in America such as how Hilter did.

 

[Exterous]

what really shocked Europe in 1939 was not the hate for the jews(which had problems just about everywhere else before

I was shocked to see how few places were willing to take in Jewish refugees. I had always wondered why so many seemed to chose to stay behind in an obviously hostile nation. It was, quite literally, because they had no where else to go - not even the United States or Canada. Even if they made it out of Germany it required a herculean effort to find them places willing to let them stay

 

[doubledeluxe]

Out of curiosity but why does reddit have such a terrible website? They have great content scattered throughout the subreddits but the discussions are useless. I just go there for article links.

Is this how most people want it?

 

[DigDog]

I was shocked to see how few places were willing to take in Jewish refugees. I had always wondered why so many seemed to chose to stay behind in an obviously hostile nation. It was, quite literally, because they had no where else to go - not even the United States or Canada. Even if they made it out of Germany it required a herculean effort to find them places willing to let them stay

because - and this is a very important point in understanding our human bias - before Hitler, nobody liked the jews; and likewise, many, many of the things that the nazis did and that we condemn today, we did ourselves. Italy was fascist, as Franco's Spain was. The Catholic church wanted the jews removed from europe. Churchill wanted to have Gandhi assassinated. We all loved war, we hated the weak and the poor, we wanted the remnants of the austro-hungarian empire to be annihilated, we kicked the jews out of every country they ever lived in, we beat homosexuals, we hated people of different religion and we considered anyone with a technological level below ours as slaves.

Europe was not all goody-goody before WWII. Hitler was bad, but we were all a bunch of criminals.

 

[K1052]

If you look into the history of some american corporations, GM, Ford, IBM and Standard oil to name only a few, you will find they enabled the german war machine. A lot of german war material, trucks, gasoline and punch card technology was built by these corporations albeit in factories in germany. Many of the heads of these corps admired Hitler greatly for what he was doing in Germany especially Henry Ford who wanted to deal with the trade unions in America such as how Hilter did.

The American companies lost control of their German subsidiaries when the war started. While most of the plants still ran with the German management teams under their original names but were by then de facto extensions of the Nazi wartime economy.

Henry Ford's son Edsel is the one who really propelled the company through WWII in spite of his father's eccentric political views, obstinate personality, and diminishing mental capacity while battling the stomach cancer which eventually led to a very painful death. It is unfortunate that history remembers the father's flaws so well and the son's achievements so poorly.

 

[ControlD]

Of course big American industry was cozy with Nazi Germany pre WWII. Why wouldn't they have been? Germany was an economy on the rise with people that craved American products. There was money to be made. It wasn't some conspiracy to rid the world of Jews. If there wasn't money to be made those companies wouldn't have been there. That's why we do business with Saudi Arabia, China, and any other number of counties that don't share the American ideology of anything. Industy doesn't need ideologies, it needs consumers.

 

[AgentUnknown]

This makes me want to watch valkerie again. Entertaining movie. That wolfsden compound was cool.