Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: pontifex
phew...i thought you were gonna say something else...
Me too. I was all "Oh great...BDSM? Cars? Scheisse? Beer?"
Originally posted by: Tango
Originally posted by: Summitdrinker
really the best beer made is brewed in the good ole USA nowdays
Yeah, sure... what else? Wine too?
Well, I dunno about the beer (although there are some decent microbrews...I don't go in for any of the big labels), but California wines are certainly world-class, and indeed they regularly beat wines from the Old World in competitions.
Hum.. I personally think some American wine have their place in the sub-100$ range, and I would certainly pick a cheap californian wine over a cheap european wine in that category, as transport costs have their weight, not to mention how international transportation can destroy the wine itself.
Kongsgard is a very fine Chardonnay, and Quilceda Creek's Cabernet is simply great.
But over that price range I still see nothing. There can not be any American Sauternes, no American Brunello, no American Sassicaia. In that league there is no substitute for tradition. Make no mistake, 100 bucks buy you a lot of good wine. But the post was about
the best beer and
the best wine. And it's still French, with Italian coming close second. And I guess it will always be the case. If you visit a winery in France you'll soon realize why nobody can approach that kind of quality. It's simply something of another time.