get into 11s with 30K

[Intelman34]

With 30k almost anything can go into the 11s

Going fast for cheap is okay, but big, streetable, reliable horsepower is the most fun.

Anyways... I plan on doing heads, cam, headers and a dyno tune on my GTO to get in the 11s.

 

[jcovercash]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
take a
2000 Toyota MR2 Spyder(2150lbs)($13k)
Get a Hass Stage II turbo($4k)
Aquamist 1s Water Injection System $489.00
60lb (630cc) OEM Style Injectors $279.00
Manifold and Turbine Housing Thermal Coatings $135.00
Manual Boost Controller $75.00
Monkey Wrench Racing Stage 4 Fully built race engine - $7000(1zzfe)
Darton Sleeves - Toyota 1ZZ-FE($339)
The charge to install this engine in your car at MWR is $650.
(has all studs/big bore pistons/MWR upgraded valve springs and stainless valves/ full port job/stroked/sleeved)(82mm bore, stroked and then sleeved for strength=almost 2.1-2.2L from 1.8l originally.)

add a little bit of tuning form the turbo and you'll easily hit 260/270hp maybe 300hp is possible.
=$25067 plus a whatever it costs to install the turbo it foy cant do it yourself.(probably around 700 in labor)

oh yeah, you'll need a roll cage, 5 point harness, seats, to meet track regulations.
then, you'll need a new clutch since stock would survive maybe 1 launch at that power.
then you might want TRD short throw shifter to get faster shifts and thus lower 1/4 mile times. then you'll want a 6spd manual tranny from the 2zzge so yuo dont get hampered by the close gearing of the 5 spd. and yuo'll also want a custom ecu programmer. it shoudl cost around 30k total.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA 30k for 260/270hp.............. You can have a HELL OF A LOT more HP in a 5.0 Mustang for 30k. OMG What a waste. You can have that with just a few bolt ones, and be underr 5k TOTAL. LMFAO

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: aplefka
This thread amuses me. Much shrivelling of epenii is occurring very rapidly.

:thumbsup:

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: AMDman12GHz

Originally posted by: mwmorph
take a
2000 Toyota MR2 Spyder(2150lbs)($13k)
Get a Hass Stage II turbo($4k)
Aquamist 1s Water Injection System $489.00
60lb (630cc) OEM Style Injectors $279.00
Manifold and Turbine Housing Thermal Coatings $135.00
Manual Boost Controller $75.00
Monkey Wrench Racing Stage 4 Fully built race engine - $7000(1zzfe)
Darton Sleeves - Toyota 1ZZ-FE($339)
The charge to install this engine in your car at MWR is $650.
(has all studs/big bore pistons/MWR upgraded valve springs and stainless valves/ full port job/stroked/sleeved)(82mm bore, stroked and then sleeved for strength=almost 2.1-2.2L from 1.8l originally.)

add a little bit of tuning form the turbo and you'll easily hit 260/270hp maybe 300hp is possible.
=$25067 plus a whatever it costs to install the turbo it foy cant do it yourself.(probably around 700 in labor)

oh yeah, you'll need a roll cage, 5 point harness, seats, to meet track regulations.
then, you'll need a new clutch since stock would survive maybe 1 launch at that power.
then you might want TRD short throw shifter to get faster shifts and thus lower 1/4 mile times. then you'll want a 6spd manual tranny from the 2zzge so yuo dont get hampered by the close gearing of the 5 spd. and yuo'll also want a custom ecu programmer. it shoudl cost around 30k total.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA 30k for 260/270hp.............. You can have a HELL OF A LOT more HP in a 5.0 Mustang for 30k. OMG What a waste. You can have that with just a few bolt ones, and be underr 5k TOTAL. LMFAO

wow you must be stupid. do you not comprehend physics or what? the lower your weight, even at similar pw/wt ratios, the faster it will go.

case in point.
the Lotus Elise weighs in at 1980lbs. it has 190hp/130lb tq. 0-60 at 4.3 10/1 lb/hp ratio
The Chevrolet corvetts weighs more than 3000 lbs. it has 400hp/400tq. 0-60 in 4.3 7.6 or 8.6 or so lb/hp ratio

less weight is much easier to move.

therefore, at 300hp which is easily attaniable through tuning, the mr2(around 2200lbs with roll cage installed and full size spare tire removed) would hit 0-60 in the 3.5-3.9 range and do the 1/4 mile in very high 10s/low 11s@120mph or so. with the correct gearing/driving/shifts.

not to mention, it would whip you mustang's a55 in any course with curves also.

 

[jcovercash]

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: AMDman12GHz

Originally posted by: mwmorph
take a
2000 Toyota MR2 Spyder(2150lbs)($13k)
Get a Hass Stage II turbo($4k)
Aquamist 1s Water Injection System $489.00
60lb (630cc) OEM Style Injectors $279.00
Manifold and Turbine Housing Thermal Coatings $135.00
Manual Boost Controller $75.00
Monkey Wrench Racing Stage 4 Fully built race engine - $7000(1zzfe)
Darton Sleeves - Toyota 1ZZ-FE($339)
The charge to install this engine in your car at MWR is $650.
(has all studs/big bore pistons/MWR upgraded valve springs and stainless valves/ full port job/stroked/sleeved)(82mm bore, stroked and then sleeved for strength=almost 2.1-2.2L from 1.8l originally.)

add a little bit of tuning form the turbo and you'll easily hit 260/270hp maybe 300hp is possible.
=$25067 plus a whatever it costs to install the turbo it foy cant do it yourself.(probably around 700 in labor)

oh yeah, you'll need a roll cage, 5 point harness, seats, to meet track regulations.
then, you'll need a new clutch since stock would survive maybe 1 launch at that power.
then you might want TRD short throw shifter to get faster shifts and thus lower 1/4 mile times. then you'll want a 6spd manual tranny from the 2zzge so yuo dont get hampered by the close gearing of the 5 spd. and yuo'll also want a custom ecu programmer. it shoudl cost around 30k total.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA 30k for 260/270hp.............. You can have a HELL OF A LOT more HP in a 5.0 Mustang for 30k. OMG What a waste. You can have that with just a few bolt ones, and be underr 5k TOTAL. LMFAO

wow you must be stupid. do you not comprehend physics or what? the lower your weight, even at similar pw/wt ratios, the faster it will go.

case in point.
the Lotus Elise weighs in at 1980lbs. it has 190hp. 0-60 at 4.3 10/1 lb/hp ratio
The Chevrolet corvetts weighs more than 3000 lbs. it has 400hp. 0-60 in 4.3 7.6 or so lb/hp ratio

therefore, at 300hp which is easily attaniable through tuning, the mr2(around 2200lbs with roll cage installed and full size spare tire removed) would hit 0-60 in the 3.5-3.9 range and do the 1/4 mile in very high 10s/low 11s@120mph or so. with the correct gearing/driving/shifts.

not to mention, it would whip you mustang's a55 in any course with curves also.

First about the Curves. Where talking about STRAIGHT LINE HERE!

A mustang can be got down to Aprox. 2700-2800 Lbs. And still be street legal. you can get a 514BB for 8k, and superchage it, the 514 puts out 625 N/A, and still be coming out cheaper than your mr2.

 

[MustangSVT]

Originally posted by: AMDman12GHz

Originally posted by: mwmorph
take a
2000 Toyota MR2 Spyder(2150lbs)($13k)
Get a Hass Stage II turbo($4k)
Aquamist 1s Water Injection System $489.00
60lb (630cc) OEM Style Injectors $279.00
Manifold and Turbine Housing Thermal Coatings $135.00
Manual Boost Controller $75.00
Monkey Wrench Racing Stage 4 Fully built race engine - $7000(1zzfe)
Darton Sleeves - Toyota 1ZZ-FE($339)
The charge to install this engine in your car at MWR is $650.
(has all studs/big bore pistons/MWR upgraded valve springs and stainless valves/ full port job/stroked/sleeved)(82mm bore, stroked and then sleeved for strength=almost 2.1-2.2L from 1.8l originally.)

add a little bit of tuning form the turbo and you'll easily hit 260/270hp maybe 300hp is possible.
=$25067 plus a whatever it costs to install the turbo it foy cant do it yourself.(probably around 700 in labor)

oh yeah, you'll need a roll cage, 5 point harness, seats, to meet track regulations.
then, you'll need a new clutch since stock would survive maybe 1 launch at that power.
then you might want TRD short throw shifter to get faster shifts and thus lower 1/4 mile times. then you'll want a 6spd manual tranny from the 2zzge so yuo dont get hampered by the close gearing of the 5 spd. and yuo'll also want a custom ecu programmer. it shoudl cost around 30k total.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA 30k for 260/270hp.............. You can have a HELL OF A LOT more HP in a 5.0 Mustang for 30k. OMG What a waste. You can have that with just a few bolt ones, and be underr 5k TOTAL. LMFAO

with 5k total? .. is the car free? :roll:

 

[jcovercash]

Originally posted by: MustangSVT

Originally posted by: AMDman12GHz

Originally posted by: mwmorph
take a
2000 Toyota MR2 Spyder(2150lbs)($13k)
Get a Hass Stage II turbo($4k)
Aquamist 1s Water Injection System $489.00
60lb (630cc) OEM Style Injectors $279.00
Manifold and Turbine Housing Thermal Coatings $135.00
Manual Boost Controller $75.00
Monkey Wrench Racing Stage 4 Fully built race engine - $7000(1zzfe)
Darton Sleeves - Toyota 1ZZ-FE($339)
The charge to install this engine in your car at MWR is $650.
(has all studs/big bore pistons/MWR upgraded valve springs and stainless valves/ full port job/stroked/sleeved)(82mm bore, stroked and then sleeved for strength=almost 2.1-2.2L from 1.8l originally.)

add a little bit of tuning form the turbo and you'll easily hit 260/270hp maybe 300hp is possible.
=$25067 plus a whatever it costs to install the turbo it foy cant do it yourself.(probably around 700 in labor)

oh yeah, you'll need a roll cage, 5 point harness, seats, to meet track regulations.
then, you'll need a new clutch since stock would survive maybe 1 launch at that power.
then you might want TRD short throw shifter to get faster shifts and thus lower 1/4 mile times. then you'll want a 6spd manual tranny from the 2zzge so yuo dont get hampered by the close gearing of the 5 spd. and yuo'll also want a custom ecu programmer. it shoudl cost around 30k total.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA 30k for 260/270hp.............. You can have a HELL OF A LOT more HP in a 5.0 Mustang for 30k. OMG What a waste. You can have that with just a few bolt ones, and be underr 5k TOTAL. LMFAO

with 5k total? .. is the car free? :roll:

No lol. I was saying you can get a 5.0 mustang (although not in the best of shape) for around 3k, probally with a few minor bolt ons already, add a few other minor parts (heads, cam, intake, etc..) and your around 5-7k (so i was a little low with my first #) and have the 300 hp as his MR2.

I undertand the power to weight ratio, but sub 300hp for 30k is a waste imo. Not matter how light the car.

Josh

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: AMDman12GHz

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: AMDman12GHz

Originally posted by: mwmorph
take a
2000 Toyota MR2 Spyder(2150lbs)($13k)
Get a Hass Stage II turbo($4k)
Aquamist 1s Water Injection System $489.00
60lb (630cc) OEM Style Injectors $279.00
Manifold and Turbine Housing Thermal Coatings $135.00
Manual Boost Controller $75.00
Monkey Wrench Racing Stage 4 Fully built race engine - $7000(1zzfe)
Darton Sleeves - Toyota 1ZZ-FE($339)
The charge to install this engine in your car at MWR is $650.
(has all studs/big bore pistons/MWR upgraded valve springs and stainless valves/ full port job/stroked/sleeved)(82mm bore, stroked and then sleeved for strength=almost 2.1-2.2L from 1.8l originally.)

add a little bit of tuning form the turbo and you'll easily hit 260/270hp maybe 300hp is possible.
=$25067 plus a whatever it costs to install the turbo it foy cant do it yourself.(probably around 700 in labor)

oh yeah, you'll need a roll cage, 5 point harness, seats, to meet track regulations.
then, you'll need a new clutch since stock would survive maybe 1 launch at that power.
then you might want TRD short throw shifter to get faster shifts and thus lower 1/4 mile times. then you'll want a 6spd manual tranny from the 2zzge so yuo dont get hampered by the close gearing of the 5 spd. and yuo'll also want a custom ecu programmer. it shoudl cost around 30k total.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA 30k for 260/270hp.............. You can have a HELL OF A LOT more HP in a 5.0 Mustang for 30k. OMG What a waste. You can have that with just a few bolt ones, and be underr 5k TOTAL. LMFAO

wow you must be stupid. do you not comprehend physics or what? the lower your weight, even at similar pw/wt ratios, the faster it will go.

case in point.
the Lotus Elise weighs in at 1980lbs. it has 190hp. 0-60 at 4.3 10/1 lb/hp ratio
The Chevrolet corvetts weighs more than 3000 lbs. it has 400hp. 0-60 in 4.3 7.6 or so lb/hp ratio

therefore, at 300hp which is easily attaniable through tuning, the mr2(around 2200lbs with roll cage installed and full size spare tire removed) would hit 0-60 in the 3.5-3.9 range and do the 1/4 mile in very high 10s/low 11s@120mph or so. with the correct gearing/driving/shifts.

not to mention, it would whip you mustang's a55 in any course with curves also.

First about the Curves. Where talking about STRAIGHT LINE HERE!

A mustang can be got down to Aprox. 2700-2800 Lbs. And still be street legal. you can get a 514BB for 8k, and superchage it, the 514 puts out 625 N/A, and still be coming out cheaper than your mr2.

so your talking about the FOX platform mustangs? wow. Hey it's a 2002 model running off a 1978 StangII chasis.. yay. i think ill buy that. Handles like sh!t. probably wont hold up too well under the power.

2800+150 for a roll cage.
2950+150 for BIG BLOCK

explain me this, how do you plan to put a BB on a ford?
Ford does not sell BBs only their Cobra 5.6L V8 or something.
This requires a FULL frame off rebuild,hundreds-thousands of hours of work if you are not a professional.

lets see what we need.(probably more i forgot aobut)
1 BB(chevy or mopar choose chevy)
1 Tranny (6spd richmond GM compatible)
1 custom driveshaft
1 custom axle
1 distributor
1 coil
1 water pump
1 high flow fuel pump
1 custom exhaust
1 supercharger
1 custom fabricated exhaust
1 custom fabricated intake
1 Carb
2 Headers
1 Intake Manifold
1 Custom Hood
1 clutch 11" 26spline
2 catalyc convertors
1 radiator kit
1 tranny oil cooler
1 intercooler kit
2 engine oil cooler
1 rollcage
2 sport/racing seats
2 5 or 6 point harnesses
many guages
dont forget the studs/pilot bushings/mounts and crap that need to come with these.

I gurantee you with labor it wont be under 60k-100k(depending on quality and amount of work) and without it it wont be under 40k-50k before it's anywhere near street legal or even drivable.(assuming your car costs around 8-10k so it is in good shape to be modded and have this much power put through)

and even then you wont have AC, youll have to do a lot of custom modification to EVERYTHING to make things fit and then, there is no gurantee it'll be fun to drive. There will be unbeliavable torque steer without many more hours of work.

btw you dont understand the question do you. It's not hp, it's the final result. no matter what you bring to the table, hp wise, if your opponent wins the race you still have nothing to say.

 

[fs5]

question, are we talking a regulation car? If not, just buy a light weight car, strap on a big block v8, cut out all the doors, roofs, glass, trunk, etc... (a la sports compact's sentra from a few years back).

 

[jcovercash]

Last item to the right on this page from Ford racing perfomance

514 Big Block.

Fits Fox body cars and Cobra replicas

$8000

Josh

 

[jcovercash]

And I was not talking about the speed related to your car, I was talking about the waste of 30k to only get 300hp out of the car. I NEVER said that car wouldn't do 11's

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: AMDman12GHz
Last item to the right on this page from Ford racing perfomance

514 Big Block.

Fits Fox body cars and Cobra replicas

$8000

Josh

ok. sop it'll need mew heads too and lower comp pistons. either way.it will cost too much, add to much weight, to make it a decent driver's car.

who cares about 300hp. jeez. you muxt be an intel fan too.

my car is like the amd to yuor intel

less hp(mhz)
yet faster(+mph/-et, +fps/-time elapsed)

i thought an amd fan would know better.
according to your logic, everyone should buy P4s cause AMD gives you so much less mhz for the money.

i have an almost identical car i made for 25k total. 265hp at 8.6krpm. Also si an MR2 soyder and gues wha? it's a fantastic daily driver, fantastic weekend drag racer and those times ive went autocrossing, it's proved itself there too. while that abomination woulb be a great drag racer, wouldnt hold up on any sort of daily driving or any sort of driving with curves.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: NeoAaronX
Two types of cars come to my mind,

Mustang 5.0
AWD Turbo DSM 1990-1999ish. (Talon, Laser, Eclipse)

Both cars are very fast stock,.... very easy to upgrade and have a huge after market for parts.

I Dunno,......

Neither car is really that fast stock. They're run the quarter in the 15's. They both have a great aftermarket, though.

 

[RGN]

I'd take a ok condition Grand National. ($12K) and do 15K worth of engine work to it. Then I'd have $3k left for gas and pop on the way to the track for the summer.

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Easiest way: Buick GNX, modded Fox Body Stang, modded F-body with LS1.

Most fun way: Fiero with a blown LS1.

I'd go either with the GNX or the Fiero option.

Most unique way: 4th gen Maxima (1995 SE with 5-spd), turbocharger, 2000 VI-manifold, cams, upgraded engine internals and all that good stuff...and your done.

 

[I Saw OJ]

Late model LS1 F-Body, Headers, full exhaust, gears, intake, cam and heads. There you go, got yourself an 11 second car with full interior, AC and all the good stuff.



seth

 

[jcovercash]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Easiest way: Buick GNX, modded Fox Body Stang, modded F-body with LS1.

Most fun way: Fiero with a blown LS1.

I'd go either with the GNX or the Fiero option.

Most unique way: 4th gen Maxima (1995 SE with 5-spd), turbocharger, 2000 VI-manifold, cams, upgraded engine internals and all that good stuff...and your done.

OMG, a Fiero with a blown LS1, Would be SICK! LOL

I would so drive one of those!

 

[maziwanka]

i agree with this idea.

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: AMDman12GHz

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Easiest way: Buick GNX, modded Fox Body Stang, modded F-body with LS1.

Most fun way: Fiero with a blown LS1.

I'd go either with the GNX or the Fiero option.

Most unique way: 4th gen Maxima (1995 SE with 5-spd), turbocharger, 2000 VI-manifold, cams, upgraded engine internals and all that good stuff...and your done.

OMG, a Fiero with a blown LS1, Would be SICK! LOL

I would so drive one of those!

I've personally seen a Fiero with a turbocharged 4.9L Caddy V8 (pre-Northstar). It was shoehorned in there, and I'm surprised they managed to keep the heat in check (even with intercooler) due to the turbo. There was absolutely NO ROOM in there. It was fast though. As fast as teh GNX that was there with a turbo hte size of my head.
(this was at St. Thomas Dragway near London, ONT).

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Easiest way: Buick GNX, modded Fox Body Stang, modded F-body with LS1.

Most fun way: Fiero with a blown LS1.

I'd go either with the GNX or the Fiero option.

Most unique way: 4th gen Maxima (1995 SE with 5-spd), turbocharger, 2000 VI-manifold, cams, upgraded engine internals and all that good stuff...and your done.

The GNX wouldn't be cost effective at all. The car is rare and would use up most of your $30k just to get it.

 

[NeoAaronX]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: NeoAaronX
Two types of cars come to my mind,

Mustang 5.0
AWD Turbo DSM 1990-1999ish. (Talon, Laser, Eclipse)

Both cars are very fast stock,.... very easy to upgrade and have a huge after market for parts.

I Dunno,......

Neither car is really that fast stock. They're run the quarter in the 15's. They both have a great aftermarket, though.

I read somewhere that Car & Driver ran the 95 GSX at 14.7 stock,.... I don't know the factory numbers off the top of my head.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: NeoAaronX

I read somewhere that Car & Driver ran the 95 GSX at 14.7 stock,.... I don't know the factory numbers off the top of my head.

I guess it's possible. You can launch the hell out of it if you don't care about the transmission and get good ET's.

 

[NeoAaronX]

Most unique way: 4th gen Maxima (1995 SE with 5-spd), turbocharger, 2000 VI-manifold, cams, upgraded engine internals and all that good stuff...and your done.

I was down at the track a few years ago, saw a Maxima pull a 12.3. Even the guy over the PA system was shocked.

The car was pure class. Dark tint on the windows, lowered a little, nice rims, and it was SO quiet all the way down the track.

 

[Reckoner]

Stage 3 WRX

 

[NeoAaronX]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: NeoAaronX

I read somewhere that Car & Driver ran the 95 GSX at 14.7 stock,.... I don't know the factory numbers off the top of my head.

I guess it's possible. You can launch the hell out of it if you don't care about the transmission and get good ET's.

With a stock DSM you could launch at 7k all of its life and I bet you wouldn't have any problems with the tranny.

But, after you start to upgrade,... that is when you start to "feather" out on the clutch a little more,... or stuff will start to snap.

I launch mine at about 4500RPM-5000RPM,..... throws you back in your seat and it feels like it's gonna break your neck.....