Getting a 780 ti and 4k monitor

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Eric1987

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I have some scalling issues in some apps where it is a bit blurry, but that is in stuff i never use like MSI Afterburner. Firefox looks great, chrome looks great, office looks great, webpages look great. I cannot go back to 1080p.

Also, people saying you can't notice the difference between 1080p and 4K? You guys cannot be serious.

Right?
 

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The question should probably be between 1440p and 4k. I can definitely see the difference between 1080p and 1440p (on 27" screens). The larger the screens, the easier it would be to tell. So 1440p on 27" and 2160p on 28" (small for 4k imo) may not be as easily noticeable. However expand screen size to 32" and above and it should be a different story.
 

Eric1987

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I'd prefer 4k on a 28 inch screen vs 30+. I prefer the pixel density. This screen feels huge to me, too. Never been on anything bigger than 22 inch.
 

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I am wanting to do this. I am hoping that Windows 9 better implements DPI scaling. I prefer the text at the size it is on my 26" 1920x1200 monitor. I just want it to be sharper. I use a 24" 1920x1080 at work. It is noticeably sharper.
 

Eric1987

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Anyone know any color calibration tools? The whites seem a bit off. Never mind I got it fixed by turning on game mode.
 
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Hail The Brain Slug

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I have some scalling issues in some apps where it is a bit blurry, but that is in stuff i never use like MSI Afterburner. Firefox looks great, chrome looks great, office looks great, webpages look great. I cannot go back to 1080p.

Also, people saying you can't notice the difference between 1080p and 4K? You guys cannot be serious.

I have to agree. I picked up a UP2414Q a week ago and I have had nothing but an awesome experience. 4k gaming and videos look amazing and my Dell 2408WFP looks like crap now. I've turned it sideways and use it for forum viewing now since it's no good for anything else.

Anyone who says you can't see the difference between 1080P and 4k has not made the transition to high-DPI screens. Once you have, you can't really go back.

Edit: I have a pair of 280X's and have not had any framerate issues. Obviously battlefield 4 is a little difficult to cap at 60FPS but the games I play regularly (Mostly Diablo 3) have run perfectly.
 

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I have to agree. I picked up a UP2414Q a week ago and I have had nothing but an awesome experience. 4k gaming and videos look amazing and my Dell 2408WFP looks like crap now. I've turned it sideways and use it for forum viewing now since it's no good for anything else.

Anyone who says you can't see the difference between 1080P and 4k has not made the transition to high-DPI screens. Once you have, you can't really go back.

Edit: I have a pair of 280X's and have not had any framerate issues. Obviously battlefield 4 is a little difficult to cap at 60FPS but the games I play regularly (Mostly Diablo 3) have run perfectly.

24" and 4k. You must have the DPI scaling in Windows cranked.
 

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I have some scalling issues in some apps where it is a bit blurry, but that is in stuff i never use like MSI Afterburner. Firefox looks great, chrome looks great, office looks great, webpages look great. I cannot go back to 1080p.

Also, people saying you can't notice the difference between 1080p and 4K? You guys cannot be serious.

I also can't believe some of the comments about the clarity difference between 4k and 1080.... being an past owner I'm going to have to call some peeps blind. The problem for me was the gui scaling issues windows has to make every thing look and work as I needed it to. Hands down the visual fidelity is there, it's just that Windows doesn't use the increased resolution to my liking. It just makes everything smaller. Games on the other hand looked stunning, well except maybe the hud on some of them didn't.

Got rid of the 4k and am running a 30in Dell and 34in LG 21:9 3440x1440 screen that is pure sickness. I will revisit high dpi in the future when I can adjust everything the way I see fit though.
 

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some of you are exaggerating a bit as I guarantee none of you could tell the immediate difference in games between 3200x1800 or 1920x1080 on a 23 inch screen without looking closely. even 3200x1800 on this small screen does not cut out all the aliasing or crawling and it does not make the picture that much crisper over all. I have to look for things like fences or power lines to even really see the difference.
 
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Eric1987

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some of you are exaggerating a bit as I guarantee none of you could tell the immediate difference in games between 3200x1800 or 1920x1080 on a 23 inch screen without looking closely. even 3200x1800 on this small screen does not cut out all the aliasing or crawling and it does not make the picture that much crisper over all. I have to look for things like fences or power lines to even really see the difference.

Must suck to have that bad of eyes. Just switch to console if you cant see the difference immediately.
 

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Must suck to have that bad of eyes. Just switch to console if you cant see the difference immediately.
my eyes are perfect and I stand by what I said. nothing you say will change what I have seen right in front of me. if you were right here it would be hilarious to see you starring at the screen trying to spot the differences. lol
 

Eric1987

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my eyes are perfect and I stand by what I said. nothing you say will change what I have seen right in front of me. if you were right here it would be hilarious to see you starring at the screen trying to spot the differences. lol

Trying to spot the differences? I don't have to try it's apparent the second you look at the screen. And a little off topic. Is there any way to scale my 1080p videos to 4k? I heard of something with this monitor/video card that it was possible. Also netflix in 4k.
 

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I thought you needed 15Mbps minimum (and consistent) to use '4k' Netflix?

I use quotation marks since I've read several times that what Netflix offers is definitely not as good as the (little) 4k content that can be purchased in HDD form.

Oh yeah, and as I recall your choices are limited to Breaking Bad and House of Cards. Both excellent series but still a drop in the ocean that is television
 

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I thought you needed 15Mbps minimum (and consistent) to use '4k' Netflix?

I use quotation marks since I've read several times that what Netflix offers is definitely not as good as the (little) 4k content that can be purchased in HDD form.

Oh yeah, and as I recall your choices are limited to Breaking Bad and House of Cards. Both excellent series but still a drop in the ocean that is television
yeah you have to check to see what programs are available in at least "super hd" but I know Breaking Bad is NOT one of them. its not even full HD.

EDIT: my bad they do offer it in 4k now

EDIT 2: I just checked and Breaking Bad is still not even full HD for me as its max speed is only 1750. some other shows I checked go to 5000. you can check by pressing "ctrl" "shift" "alt" and "s" at the same time while show is playing.
 
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Eric1987

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yeah you have to check to see what programs are available in at least "super hd" but I know Breaking Bad is NOT one of them. its not even full HD.

EDIT: my bad they do offer it in 4k now

EDIT 2: I just checked and Breaking Bad is still not even full HD for me as its max speed is only 1750. some other shows I checked go to 5000. you can check by pressing "ctrl" "shift" "alt" and "s" at the same time while show is playing.

Yes it is in 4k you just have to have a TV and the correct area as they are rolling it out. I did more research. Stop being a hater.
 

Eric1987

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I thought you needed 15Mbps minimum (and consistent) to use '4k' Netflix?

I use quotation marks since I've read several times that what Netflix offers is definitely not as good as the (little) 4k content that can be purchased in HDD form.

Oh yeah, and as I recall your choices are limited to Breaking Bad and House of Cards. Both excellent series but still a drop in the ocean that is television

How do I get it to work over PC? Or is it not allowed yet?
 

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Yes it is in 4k you just have to have a TV and the correct area as they are rolling it out. I did more research. Stop being a hater.
being a hater? about what? I have been watching the series off and on and knew that it was not in full HD a while back. I googled to see that it was supposedly being offered in 4k now and then clearly edited my post. I then actually checked and yet again clearly edited my post to say its not in 4k for me. so again what are you talking about saying I am a hater?
 

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same people who can't tell the difference between 1080P and 4K probably say they don't notice a difference with 120Hz monitors. some poeple just can't appreciate art
 

Hail The Brain Slug

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24" and 4k. You must have the DPI scaling in Windows cranked.

Nope, I leave it at 100%/no scaling. I can read on the monitor just fine, but I do my browsing on the old 2408WFP. I also have a Razer Blade 14" 2014 model (The 3200x1800 panel) that I run at 100%/no scaling. All the games I've played scale the UI perfectly fine. When school starts, I'll probably be doing some form of scaling so I can code easier, but I prefer to use in-program zoom.
 

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Netflix 4k only works on 2014 Samsung 4k TVs right now due to the H.265 encoding used. Not available yet for PC.

I've used it, clearly better than streaming HD, but no better than bluray.
 

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some of you are exaggerating a bit as I guarantee none of you could tell the immediate difference in games between 3200x1800 or 1920x1080 on a 23 inch screen without looking closely. even 3200x1800 on this small screen does not cut out all the aliasing or crawling and it does not make the picture that much crisper over all. I have to look for things like fences or power lines to even really see the difference.

3200x1800? what? Do you mean upscaling? I can assure you no amount of up scaling looks anywhere near as good as native 4K. Maybe you should have a look at a real 4k monitor before making statements like that.
 

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3200x1800? what? Do you mean upscaling? I can assure you no amount of up scaling looks anywhere near as good as native 4K. Maybe you should have a look at a real 4k monitor before making statements like that.
downsampling is the same thing as running higher resolution. when I use 2560x1440 it looks better than 1080 and performs just like 2560x1440 does. and then 3200x1800 looks even better and cleans up the edges even more. going back to 1080 does look slightly more blurry and has more jaggies but its not a massive difference that blows me away.
 

Eric1987

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Wait so you're not even running 4k native yet you're commenting on the clarity of it? GTFO.
 

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Wait so you're not even running 4k native yet you're commenting on the clarity of it? GTFO.
this coming from the person who says windows has perfect scaling? lol

maybe go learn about downsampling instead of living in a world of rainbows and unicorns.
 

Eric1987

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this coming from the person who says windows has perfect scaling? lol

maybe go learn about downsampling instead of living in a world of rainbows and unicorns.

I never said windows had perfect scaling....Comment when you have a 4k monitor otherwise your points are invalid.
 
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