Getting a puppy and am unsure of which route..

evetstech

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I'm getting a puppy (Pembroke Welsh Corgi), and I'm unsure of which route I should take. Should I train him to go outside or inside? I don't know if it would be wise to train him to go inside and out, as i'm thinking it would confuse him. I'm very on the fence with both, as if I train him to go inside, what will happen if I take him to another house. If I train him outside, what will happen when I'm out. Any advice?
 

Wolverine27

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Train him to go outside. I recommend using crate training. That's always worked well for my dogs.
 

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Originally posted by: Wolverine27
Train him to go outside. I recommend using crate training. That's always worked well for my dogs.

Could you elaborate on this? Im having trouble training my own pup.
 

RKS

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Originally posted by: Wolverine27
Train him to go outside. I recommend using crate training. That's always worked well for my dogs.

:thumbsup:

crate train so he doesn't want to 'go' inside. why spend time training him to relieve himself indoors? just remember a puppy has to go a couple times a night when you first bring them home at about 6-8 weeks.
 

John P

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Crate training unless you want your dog going on every stray newspaper and magazine they can find.

Do some research on crate training. The key is to be diligent, the dog has no clue why you're rubbing his nose in their mess 5 minutes after they create it. Have somebody assigned to "doggy watch" and catch them in the act. Do not strike the dog, just startle it by hitting the ground with your hand or a phone book and say "BAD DOG" or whatever. Then praise the crap out of it (literally ) when they go outside.

Have fun!!
 

Josh

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Basically what I did with my puppy is take him out frequently, as puppies they tend to go a little more often and uncontrollably, also if you have a hardwood floor area in the house if you don't wanna use a crate - keep him in there. Dogs like to go on soft areas, but anyway, when you take him out on the grassy areas he'll go potty bring him rite back inside and praise him/give him treats. If he does go inside try and make sure you catch him at it and yell at him he'll get scared and then take him outside immediately.
 

Wolverine27

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I'd be happy to explain in more detail to you, but maybe it's easier to just point you to many great resources on the web.

Crate Training

Once you've read through the basics, I'd be happy to answer any specific questions you might have.

Good luck!
Wolverine
 

evetstech

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I see lot's of outsides, but how are they with bladder control for when I'm not home to take him out? I understand that you should schedule feeding, so you can somewhat predict when to take them out or not, but do they have "accidents" on the "non-feeding/usual morning/night" times? If so, when they get older, will they have better bladder control, so they don't go at times that i'm not there?
 

RKS

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Originally posted by: John P.
Crate training unless you want your dog going on every stray newspaper and magazine they can find.

Do some research on crate training. The key is to be diligent, the dog has no clue why you're rubbing his nose in their mess 5 minutes after they create it. Have somebody assigned to "doggy watch" and catch them in the act. Do not strike the dog, just startle it by hitting the ground with your hand or a phone book and say "BAD DOG" or whatever. Then praise the crap out of it (literally ) when they go outside.

Have fun!!


we actually leashed our puppy to a table next to us for the first few weeks. that way he couldn't wander off and we could circumvent accidents.

the key if to catch them beginning to squat, yell "NO" to startle the dog, take him outside to finish his business, praise and immediately bring him inside.

you can go back out again right afterwards but I think you want the dog to associate the outdoors with his proper place to poop and pee.
 
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I'm keeping a cousin's dog right now because she just had a baby and is unable to care for it. It's really well trained to go outside and lets us know when it's got to go by scratching on the fron door. I've always been hesitant to own a dog because of the poop problem, but if you can manage to train it as well as this one is then I'm sure it would be better than constantly disposing of newpapers. I definitely say outdoor.
 

RKS

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Originally posted by: evetstech
I see lot's of outsides, but how are they with bladder control for when I'm not home to take him out? I understand that you should schedule feeding, so you can somewhat predict when to take them out or not, but do they have "accidents" on the "non-feeding/usual morning/night" times? If so, when they get older, will they have better bladder control, so they don't go at times that i'm not there?

take them out after breakfast, take the puppy out at lunch until they can hold it longer, take them out after dinner/before bed and don't give them anything to drink at least an hour before crate time.

a medium sized adult dog can probably control his bladder for 8 hours during the day.

edit: our lab doesn't get lunch. he gets a cup of dry food in the morning and another in the afternoon.

 

Wolverine27

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Originally posted by: evetstech
I see lot's of outsides, but how are they with bladder control for when I'm not home to take him out? I understand that you should schedule feeding, so you can somewhat predict when to take them out or not, but do they have "accidents" on the "non-feeding/usual morning/night" times? If so, when they get older, will they have better bladder control, so they don't go at times that i'm not there?



Naturally your puppy will have some accidents along the way. It's all part of training and raising a puppy. As the dog gets older, his or her bladder gets stronger. Our dogs can generally go 10-14 hours without being let out if necessary. We usually let them out more frequently than that, but it's nice assurance to have if you're going to be gone for an extended period.
 

evetstech

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I will try this crate training when I get him within this week Thanks for the advise everyone, wish me luck :beer:
 

Wolverine27

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Originally posted by: evetstech
I will try this crate training when I get him within this week Thanks for the advise everyone, wish me luck :beer:

Good luck! Just remember that puppies and dogs need patience and consistency...anything less will confuse them. Good consistent training of a puppy should result in an obedient lifelong friend as an adult dog.
 

ShOcKwAvE827

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Some advice since I've just gone through crate training. Probably already been said, but take your pup out A LOT at first. (20 times a day sometimes) We kept a log on paper of what time we took him out and if he pee or pooped or did something else. It's pretty helpful to see how often he really goes. Just for reference, it took our dog 5 or 6 days before he started sitting at the door to go out. YMMV of course. My dog is now 5 months old and only goes out maybe 5-6 times per day now.

You will use a lot of paper towels, so buy in bulk as cheap as you can find. For stains, get an enzymatic cleaner like Nature's Miracle, get a gallon of it, you will use it all, trust me. I order a lot of stuff at www.jefferspet.com lots of stuff there for cheap. Highly recommended. Buy all meds online, it's usually half the price of vets. They should be happy to give you the scripts. Look into clicker training, http://clickersolutions.com/articles/index.htm is a good resource. It's really good for training basic commands and especially tricks.
 

montanafan

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Originally posted by: evetstech
I will try this crate training when I get him within this week Thanks for the advise everyone, wish me luck :beer:


Just remember that he will have some accidents in the beginning, puppies have to go more often than grown dogs, but he'll soon learn and have better control. Good luck!

 

Journer

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ask any trainer...CRATE TRAIN....i've tried all methods....crate train>all others....trust me...

good choice on the dog btw
 

shopbruin

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the puppy my mom has pees sooooooo much. but after a few days in his crate, he learned not to pee in the crate. now we have to make sure he realizes that if he wants his carpet privileges, he needs to learn how to pee outside and to tell us he needs to pee outside.

but he's only what, three months old. it's going to take a little time. patience! whenever i see him start to circle and sniff, i drag his butt outside. and we've learned not to get him TOO excited, he can't hold it. silly but cute maltese.
 

SonnyDaze

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I own 3 dogs, all crate trained, so here's my .02:

1. Don't get a huge crate....just big enough for the pup to turn around in. If he has room to move around, he'll go in the crate. Don't put pillows, blankets etc. in the crate. He'll go on those and it'll absorb, so it defeats the purpose.

2. Pups have small bladders, take them out OFTEN (every hour or so) and especially after each feeding and playtime.

3. Schedule the feeding (morning/night etc.) And take away the water after a certain time in the evening (not too late though). This should help the pup get through the night without the need for potty calls.

4. Get an empty aluminum can and fill it 1/4 way with pennies (or any coins). If you catch the pup going in the house, rattle the can, it'll startle the pup and stop him, at which time you can take him outside to finish.

5. When the pup does go in the house, DON'T scold him, just grab him (whether he's done or not) and take him outside. And try to use the same area of the yard for potty time.

6. When the pup is doing business outside, use a "key word", like "potty" or "dooty" or whatever you come up with. Use this word as the pup is going to the bathroom so he'll relate the action with the word.....then when you take him out, use the key word and he'll realize it's time to "potty" or "dooty" or "poopy"or whatever you come up with.

7. When the pup does go outside, give him praise. **Good boy, you went "poopy" outside!!**. He'll understand that this is the right thing to do and it will elicit your praise and happiness. That's what dogs want......the master to praise them.

8. Above all else, BE PATIENT and NEVER hit your dog for going potty in the house. (Or for any reason.)

Good Luck!!!
 

John P

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I own 3 dogs, all crate trained, so here's my .02:

1. Don't get a huge crate....just big enough for the pup to turn around in. If he has room to move around, he'll go in the crate. Don't put pillows, blankets etc. in the crate. He'll go on those and it'll absorb, so it defeats the purpose.

2. Pups have small bladders, take them out OFTEN (every hour or so) and especially after each feeding and playtime.

3. Schedule the feeding (morning/night etc.) And take away the water after a certain time in the evening (not too late though). This should help the pup get through the night without the need for potty calls.

4. Get an empty aluminum can and fill it 1/4 way with pennies (or any coins). If you catch the pup going in the house, rattle the can, it'll startle the pup and stop him, at which time you can take him outside to finish.

5. When the pup does go in the house, DON'T scold him, just grab him (whether he's done or not) and take him outside. And try to use the same area of the yard for potty time.

6. When the pup is doing business outside, use a "key word", like "potty" or "dooty" or whatever you come up with. Use this word as the pup is going to the bathroom so he'll relate the action with the word.....then when you take him out, use the key word and he'll realize it's time to "potty" or "dooty" or "poopy"or whatever you come up with.

7. When the pup does go outside, give him praise. **Good boy, you went "poopy" outside!!**. He'll understand that this is the right thing to do and it will elicit your praise and happiness. That's what dogs want......the master to praise them.

8. Above all else, BE PATIENT and NEVER hit your dog for going potty in the house. (Or for any reason.)

Good Luck!!!

Good advice!! I had it so my dog would "go potty" when I let her out and told her to. If she didn't need to go she'd just stand there and look at me like I was an idiot
 
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