Getting a Wii U, maybe

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sze5003

Lifer
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I want to play the new Mario game. I was thinking of getting a Wii U but I missed out on some deals. My Wal-Mart doesn't have the one for $250.
 
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TheAdvocate

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I am on world 6 of the new SM 3D World. Playing after I put my kids to bed. Its a blast. Very fun game.
 

drbrock

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SM3d is somewhat a tough game. The controls are not as tight as I would like them. The graphics and fun is substantial. But I thought it would be fairly easy like Mario 64. I only played it for 30 mins maybe I just have to get used to it.
 

mmntech

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It kind of surprises me that the Vita sold so little even with all the good deals... and since the PS4 was #2! Sony really needs to get on the ball with showing people what sort of benefits the Vita has.

Sony made a lot of mistakes with the Vita and I think they know they goofed. The Vita does have a lot of good games but nothing really stands out amongst the crowd. Though Tearaway is supposed to be quite good, and Borderlands 2 is coming out this year. I think the biggest stumbling block is still the memory cards. At least that's the biggest complaint I hear. I think Sony tried to use them to recover R&D costs quickly, but they really should have been prices as an impulse item. It would move more traffic to the digital store, which is the real benefit of these devices.

The Vita as well sort of exists in a strange limbo between smartphone and handheld, which hasn't helped. While the iPhone doesn't have the same level of games, I think it has a broader general appeal in that it does everything. Both are targeting the same consumer demographic, so it's back to the old debate we had back in 1983. Do you buy an Atari 2600 or a Commodore 64?
 

Sonikku

Lifer
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I think I miss when Sony made later models of their hand held better. Now with the Vita new models just get more and more stripped down.
 

Face2Face

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So far, I think it's a lot easier than New SM side scroller that came with my console. That game is old school frustrating hard. Have to be very precise with your controls or you die, often.

Also, just random news (Im bored at work): http://www.nintendo-insider.com/201...ced-third-party-wii-u-exclusive-set-for-2014/

It's tough at first, especially when trying to play with a 2nd person. My wife is always jumping on my head causing me to short jump and fall and die... We are at the end of the game now and it's been really challenging and fun, of course I haven't yelled obscenities at the TV this much in a long time. Brings back the memories of super mario for the SNES.
 

artemicion

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Jun 9, 2004
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Of course, this doesn't really affect me, because I only need one playthrough of Monster Hunter 3 to see that it's some unfun, bastard love-child between Dynasty Warriors and Devil May Cry. :|

MH3 is not really similar to either of those two games. I've never played the MH3 demo, so I wonder if it's too short to properly demonstrate the appeal of the game.

That said, MH3 is a very niche game that didn't find much appeal outside of Japan so if you didn't like it I wouldn't be surprised. The game mechanics are pretty terrible and clunky. The game has almost no story. The game is only appealing to players who love to grind/farm and not ask why. (I loved it )
 

Grey!matter

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got a wii u on boxing day but I have a quick question. I wan't to pick up a bunch of older games(mario galaxy 1/2, zelda TP/SS) but what controller do i need to get? Are there any cheaper alternatives then buying the ones from nintendo?
 

artemicion

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SM3d is somewhat a tough game. The controls are not as tight as I would like them. The graphics and fun is substantial. But I thought it would be fairly easy like Mario 64. I only played it for 30 mins maybe I just have to get used to it.

I agree that the controls are not as tight as prior Marios. The worst is when you're free falling and trying to control your fall--it's hard to tell if you are accidentally drifting into or away from the screen, since you have limited control of the camera (or zero control of the camera if you are playing multiplayer)

It does help if you realize that in-game movement is not truly analog. You can only move your guy in eight directions. The levels are mostly designed with that in mind, so you're never really have to any precise navigating.
 

artemicion

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Jun 9, 2004
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got a wii u on boxing day but I have a quick question. I wan't to pick up a bunch of older games(mario galaxy 1/2, zelda TP/SS) but what controller do i need to get? Are there any cheaper alternatives then buying the ones from nintendo?

For the games you mentioned, you just need a Wii Remote + Nunchuk. You can buy a refurbished pair from Nintendo for $20:
https://store.nintendo.com/webapp/w...RVvdQqs1rg=&ddkey=https:SetCurrencyPreference

There's also always people on Craigslist selling used Wii Remotes and Nunchuks for cheap.
 

PieIsAwesome

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It kind of surprises me that the Vita sold so little even with all the good deals... and since the PS4 was #2! Sony really needs to get on the ball with showing people what sort of benefits the Vita has.

During those recent deals for the Vita, I felt like maybe getting one, but there was no reason for me. All the games are "meh", overpriced memory cards. It would just be a paperweight for me.
 

gorcorps

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During those recent deals for the Vita, I felt like maybe getting one, but there was no reason for me. All the games are "meh", overpriced memory cards. It would just be a paperweight for me.

You missed out. Almost all of the best vita games have been free at some point in the last year for PSN+ members. It's not perfect, but I consider the vita to be the best handheld I've owned
 

Aikouka

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MH3 is not really similar to either of those two games. I've never played the MH3 demo, so I wonder if it's too short to properly demonstrate the appeal of the game.

That said, MH3 is a very niche game that didn't find much appeal outside of Japan so if you didn't like it I wouldn't be surprised. The game mechanics are pretty terrible and clunky. The game has almost no story. The game is only appealing to players who love to grind/farm and not ask why. (I loved it )

I know that Dynasty Warriors is more of a scenario-based game, which isn't like Monster Hunter. However, it's more of the look of the game that reminded me of Dynasty Warriors. The characters had the sort of flamboyant outfits with somewhat ridiculous weapons, which is very similar to a Dynasty Warriors game. The camera angle also looks to be very similar, and I was in this snowy locale, which reminded me of one of the snowy maps in the last Dynasty Warriors that I played.

I think I mentioned Devil May Cry because that's also a Capcom third-person combat game, but I don't think that's the best example. If I were to choose a Capcom game that it reminded me the most of, it would probably be Dragon's Dogma. Man, that game is BORING. I got it for free through PlayStation Plus, and ugh... I had to push myself to play past the opening!

*slash slash slash* "Are these attacks even doing anything?"

Although, my biggest qualm with Monster Hunter might have been mentioned by you -- the game mechanics being clunky. Although, my qualms lie mostly with the combat. I just find it odd that the people that made Devil May Cry have an issue creating a game with nice, fast-paced combat. My biggest complaint was probably with the whole sheathing/unsheathing of the weapon and dodging. Also, it didn't seem like you could use items until your weapons were sheathed.

I do normally enjoy grind-y games, but unfortunately, that was not one of them.
 

PieIsAwesome

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You missed out. Almost all of the best vita games have been free at some point in the last year for PSN+ members. It's not perfect, but I consider the vita to be the best handheld I've owned

Even if free it doesn't mean I would play them. I have a giant backlog of games on Steam, 360 games, PS3 games, Wii games, 3DS games. Free games doesn't matter.
 

007ELmO

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gorcorps you're gonna have to qualify your opinion there, i don't think anything will ever beat the DS Lite which played basically everything. there's a reason nintendo is still alive and it's because of their handhelds, vita is invisible (i own one, too).
 

Fulle

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@Aikouka

Dragon's Dogma isn't a boring RPG. Its combat system is more action oriented than most RPGs, it has more flexibility with it's party than most RPGs, they even went as far as implementing the pawn system that greatly adds to that element, and it has great class variety.

Maybe you just played as a fighter for the first hour of the game, and shouldn't be commenting on it, because you didn't give it a fair shake?

And, with that being the case, you would probably hate Monster Hunter, since it requires that someone has at least a tiny bit of patience to get into.
 

007ELmO

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i miss games like dragion warrior 1 where you are forced to level up incessantly for 10 hours or you'll die if you try to cross a bridge
 

Aikouka

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@Aikouka

Dragon's Dogma isn't a boring RPG. Its combat system is more action oriented than most RPGs, it has more flexibility with it's party than most RPGs, they even went as far as implementing the pawn system that greatly adds to that element, and it has great class variety.

Maybe you just played as a fighter for the first hour of the game, and shouldn't be commenting on it, because you didn't give it a fair shake?

And, with that being the case, you would probably hate Monster Hunter, since it requires that someone has at least a tiny bit of patience to get into.

I'm sorry, but the beginning of Dragon's Dogma is very, very boring. You sit there with three NPCs constantly yelling useless banter while you're running around exploring stuff. You fight some chimaera that has a ridiculous amount of health and your attacks do very little against it. In other words, that fight takes FOREVER. The thing is... that fight doesn't even matter!! It's just some silly little intro stage, and then the game takes you into the actual beginning of the game where a silly dragon eats your heart.

Now, I'll bet that you'll make some, "You need to play it longer than that!" remark. Well, guess what... no I don't. The whole "You should give <game name> <amount of time> so it gets good!" is just poppycock. A game SHOULD BE GOOD FROM THE BEGINNING.

...and no, there is absolutely no patience for Monster Hunter's crappy combat controls. I don't mind grinding games in the slightest; heck, I played World of WarCraft for over seven years! Although, I do tend to want a bit of story or something in my games. For example, I'm playing the Bravely Default demo, and there's just no story in it. This one dungeon that you can go into is way too hard, and the other is slightly out of your league. Also, your characters are designed to be used in certain roles based on initial stats, but you have to buy your magic, and it's not cheap. :\
 

007ELmO

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RPGs used to take a very long time before they became "good". I have left many RPGs in the dust because I couldn't cross the 10 hour requirement to get off "the first planet" thing.
 

Fulle

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@Aikouka

While I agree that it's best if a game has a good opening to "hook" someone into the start of the game, a lot of RPGs start slow. Playing through an intro sequence, and then quitting, isn't generally going to tell you ANYTHING about most RPGs, and having done only that, you have to admit that you don't really have a good feel of what the game is like. So why bad-mouth the game on a forum? You clearly don't know what you're talking about, having admitted to only playing the intro sequence!

Pet peeve here, but I really wish people would keep uninformed opinions to themselves.

And you're STILL trying to talk about Monster Hunter. Have you played Monster Hunter? No? Then shuuut uuuup!
 

Fulle

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Sorry about the derail there...

On topic on the Wii U... it should have an interesting year in 2014.

Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
Mario Kart 8
Bayonetta 2
Super Smash Bros.
X

That's a nice looking lineup for 1 year on a Nintendo console. I know a lot of people are excited about some of these, but for me it's Super Smash Bros. and X. Smash Bros is always fun to play with friends, and with X, Monolith Soft is coming off of Xenoblade, which was really good... so they could potentially still be on their game, and put out another strong RPG.
 
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