Getting an 89.4 in a course, should I email my professor to try for an A?

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glutenberg

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Originally posted by: postmortemIA
I had 87.80 and 88.00 was higher grade. I asked him about it, he said "sorry".

87.80 to 88.00 doesn't affect your GPA. Whichever one, it's still a B+. He's trying to get an extra point for his GPA or for other schools, another .30 points.
 

NatePo717

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I've been in the same boat before. Got an 89.48 (It was 1/2 a point on my final) according to my professor although when I did it out I had an 89.54. Refused to give me the A despite never missing a class, active participation, etc. Prof was a douche.
 

BigJelly

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Originally posted by: Leros
Basically I really screwed up and got a 135/200 on the second midterm. I did awesome on the final and got a 245/250, however this only makes my average an 89.4 which is in the B range for the class (there will be no curve). Maybe I'm just grabbing for points, but I feel that since I did so good on the final it shows that I have learned the material for the course and deserve an A.

What do you guys think? Should I contact my professor? And, if so, how should I present my argument?

FFS say something. Tell the professor/TA you are concerned about your grade because of your 2nd midterm. Admit that you dropped the ball on the 2nd midterm. Tell him you studied as hard as possible after it given your workload/job and learned as much of the material as possible. Try to give the impression that you care about your grade, but even if you don't get the grade you want you are better off knowing the material. That's basically the argument I used to get my students' grades adjusted.

In my two semesters as a GenChem TA, I got 4 of my students grades changed because of the effort they put in. They never found out their grades were adjusted because they never asked for an adjustment and I never told them about it.

One student went from a D to a C (the student, a senior, failed the course 2 times before and needed it to graduate--thank god he told me that after he got his grade otherwise i would have lost sleep if he got the D). He started coming to my office hours after the first exam (came 2-3 hours a week) and did the extra problem sets I made; chemistry was just very hard for him but he worked at it. When we assigned grades, I faught for him because of his improvement and effort; he got a BC on the final. Sadly my best student was my "worst" student gradewise.
Another student went from a B to AB, because she started coming to office hours and got an A on the final.
Two others that were ABs to As, didn't go to office hours but emailed me questions in a timely fashion and did all my extra problem sets.

Also all 4 of those students came to every discussion section (minus 1 or 2) and were within .5% of the grade; except the C student he was off by 1%.

I had 5 students that were literally 5 points away (out of 1050 and 1250) from the higher grade and I didn't fight for them; rarely went to discussion and never went to office hours. They gave the impression that they didn't care enough about their grade so why should I.
 

cheapgoose

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Originally posted by: Turkish
Originally posted by: Analog
Originally posted by: Leros
Basically I really screwed up and got a 135/200 on the second midterm. I did awesome on the final and got a 245/250, however this only makes my average an 89.4 which is in the B range for the class (there will be no curve). Maybe I'm just grabbing for points, but I feel that since I did so good on the final it shows that I have learned the material for the course and deserve an A.

What do you guys think? Should I contact my professor? And, if so, how should I present my argument?

I get students that try this all the time. I tell them to look at the syllabus. That usually quiets the matter...

I had a student this last term that had a 89.9. Sorry, that's still a B+, not an A-.

You are nothing but a dick.

Wy does that make him a dick? How hard would it really have been to earn that extra .1%?

 

novasatori

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slightly off topic of the original post, but when people look at your gpa do they factor in the difference between say... A B C D scale vs A +/- B +/- C +/- scale?
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: novasatori
slightly off topic of the original post, but when people look at your gpa do they factor in the difference between say... A B C D scale vs A +/- B +/- C +/- scale?

why wouldn't they?
 
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Just ask. Even be honest. If alot of people got 89s, that is fair enough that I got a B ..... but if I got an 89.40 and the next lowst grade is an 84 (per say), I think it would be fair to give me an A.

Something along these lines. Don't sound greedy.
 

blackllotus

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GPA is a stupid measurement anyways because it throws away accuracy unnecessarily. Here is an extreme example; one student gets flat 90s and another gets flat 89.5s. The actual difference in performance between the two is ridiculously small however the GPA difference will be significant.
 

Farang

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Originally posted by: blackllotus
GPA is a stupid measurement anyways because it throws away accuracy unnecessarily. Here is an extreme example; one student gets flat 90s and another gets flat 89.5s. The actual difference in performance between the two is ridiculously small however the GPA difference will be significant.

Yep.. one college I went to scored using just numbers. Made a lot more sense.
 

postmortemIA

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Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: postmortemIA
I had 87.80 and 88.00 was higher grade. I asked him about it, he said "sorry".

87.80 to 88.00 doesn't affect your GPA. Whichever one, it's still a B+. He's trying to get an extra point for his GPA or for other schools, another .30 points.

curve was 88.00 A-.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: blackllotus
GPA is a stupid measurement anyways because it throws away accuracy unnecessarily. Here is an extreme example; one student gets flat 90s and another gets flat 89.5s. The actual difference in performance between the two is ridiculously small however the GPA difference will be significant.

There are several reasons for using GPAs on a 4 point scale (and even going as far as to eliminate +/- grades). They include differences in grading between different professors and differences in grading between different colleges, among other reasons. I do not agree with any of these reasons, and I too think that GPAs needlessly throw away accuracy.
 

spanner

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I'd say leave it alone. Its tough, but you messed up on the midterm and that is the difference between an A and a B. If the professor has any leniency built into his grading then chances are you will get the benefit because high grades on a final rarely go unnoticed. As for those asking what you have to loose, asking for favors has a way of pissing off some professors.
 

Phokus

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"Getting an 89.4 in a course, should I email my professor to try for an A?"

That's a stupid question, of course you should.

A better question would be "Whats the best way of convincing my professor to round up my grade?"

Answer: Knee Pads.
 

flunky nassau

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If I was the professor, I'd give him the A if he visited me & gave me that sincere explanation. Why be an a$$hole?

If the final was cumulative & he aced it, then sure, I'll give him the A for mastering the material by the end of the term.

Now if the final was based on material from the midterm on, then maybe not.
 

Gibsons

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Originally posted by: flunky nassau
If I was the professor, I'd give him the A if he visited me & gave me that sincere explanation. Why be an a$$hole?
Is visiting and acting sincere (there are some good actors out there) really something that should influence a grade? This just rewards brown nosing imo.
 

potoba

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yeah, you can try emailing. But dont write like this

"I just received my grade online and I am just wondering if the course was curved at all because I got exactly my average grade. Let me know!
Have a great summer! "

I basically ignored the email as i thought it was weird.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: potoba
yeah, you can try emailing. But dont write like this

"I just received my grade online and I am just wondering if the course was curved at all because I got exactly my average grade. Let me know!
Have a great summer! "

I basically ignored the email as i thought it was weird.

Clearly a college-caliber student there with excellent reasoning skills.
 
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