Getting my coil gun to work

Larrymon2000

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Unfortunately, whenever I complete the circuit with the coils after I charge my gun, all I get is a spark. It's as if the charge never gets to the coils around my barrel. Do I need a special kind of switch? What voltage battery? What kind of coil/wiring? How many feet of wiring? How thick should the barrel be? I'm using the capacitor and flash card from a disposable camera, but I removed the bulb.
Any tips??
 

silverpig

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You need a LOT more current than a disposable camera will provide. How thick is your wire? How much current/voltage? How big is your projectile? Test your circuit with a multimeter to make sure there are no shorts...
 

krotchy

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Originally posted by: silverpig
You need a LOT more current than a disposable camera will provide. How thick is your wire? How much current/voltage? How big is your projectile? Test your circuit with a multimeter to make sure there are no shorts...

I agree, definitely need alot alot more current. Depending on the projectiles weight, you might need something like a car stereo capacitor (1.6F or more), and they are quite dangerous, as it takes energy to charge a 1.6F cap to fill. You need something big, because the coil is relatively heavy and you need to create a big field of flux through the coil to shoot something. So it needs to supply alot of current over a decent amount of time I figure (75+ms). As far as switches go, get a nice one from home depot, you can find a 30amp kill switch there, tons of designs.

If you really want to live dangerously. You could buy a big bridge rectifier, and run it right to the cap (with some form of resistance in series to slow down the chargeup). Then have the cap accross the gun and it will unload itself into the gun with the flip of a switch. I also recomend a switch on the AC side as well to turn off the input voltage. This would be dangerous and stupid, but would probably work.

*note* This is a bad idea.
 

phisrow

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As people have said, you'll need a lot more power. A good rule of thumb with magnetic accelerators is: if the cap bank can't blow you across the room, the coil gun isn't going to work. The whole project is a bad idea. Be careful, use bleeder resisters, insulate bare wire, take all usual high voltage precautions, etc. Also, get a pair of goggles that block UV. A good size spark puts off a fair amount of hard UV, and having cateracts before you hit 30 would suck a lot.

Assuming you have a small gun, you can probably get away with using lots of photoflash caps in parallel. If you ask nicely, many pharmacy photo counters will let you take away used camera bodies by the bagful(at least back when I was playing this game). Pull all the caps out(carefully) and solder them onto hefty copper wire. With the fairly low voltage (c. 300v) on photoflash caps, you'll need very, very low resistance coils. This means using heavy wire all throughout the circuit. The tricky thing about coilguns is getting the discharge to be fast enough. Ideally, you want all the energy to be released at once, or at least before the projectile has made it more than halfway through the coil(otherwise the coil will slow the projectile down again). Typically, as well, mechanical switching is too slow.
 

bobsmith1492

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I made a "sparky bank" out of caps from monitors, TVs, and computer power supplies (200V+ ratings). I charged it with a standard 120V lamp in series with a bridge rectifier that went to the caps, then simply touched wires together to short the caps. The light worked nicely as a resistance since its resistance decreases as the caps charge and it gets dimmer, allowing a more complete charge.

If I could only get more caps though....
 

Pulsar

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The capacitor inside a TV set is extremely dangerous.

You need to take a look at a different project, or use a REALLY small projectile (needle maybe?) with VERY small coils.
 

bobsmith1492

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Just because something is dangerous doesn't mean you can't use it. Just make sure they're ALWAYS discharged - a screwdriver across the cap will do that, no problem. Bleeder resistors would be a good idea as well, although I don't have any on my bank... hmmm....
 

Tarzanman

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Forget the coil gun.... that project isn't NEARLY dangerous enough. You want to risk your life....? Two words: TESLA COIL
 

bobsmith1492

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Originally posted by: Tarzanman
Forget the coil gun.... that project isn't NEARLY dangerous enough. You want to risk your life....? Two words: TESLA COIL

It all depends on what your goal is. Pretty sparks are nifty, but launching metal chunks sounds a lot more interesting.

P.S. : Welcome to Anandtech! I hope you didn't join just to post that, though.
 

AlabamaCajun

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Build a potato cannon, much easier.

What I found amazing is the amount of energy used "holy electrons batman". One problem is focusing the guasian field on the object. I see some aluminium housings being used possibly to compess the field but not sure. If not then a huge field is wasted on surrounding particle in the air. Getting the energy into the coils can be tricky as it takes a lot of EMF and that much power may find it easier to jump to the nearest metal object than squeeze through that coil of wire. Try a dousing in liquid nitro \00/
 
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