Getting my little 6yr old sister to zip her jacket.

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Darwin333

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Duct tape goes a long way. Obviously, remove said duct tape before you let her go outside and some isopropyl alcohol will get the rest of the duct tape goo right off. No harm, no foul.
 

Tormac

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Do you bundle your sister up inside?

It may be that she is hot and uncomfortable inside the house, and does not appreciate that she will be colder outside. Maybe zip her up halfway inside, and let her adjust once she is outside in the cold?

My twelve year old boy refuses to ware a coat or a hoodie when he goes outside if he is not cold at that imeadeate instant. No matter how much I point out that he is going to be cold latter on he never seems to appreciate that conditions can change for the worse, and he should be ready for them.

Kids just are not good at suffering immediate discomfort for long term comfort. But to be fair many adults are not good at this either. I always bring my son's hoodie in the car just in case he needs it latter.
 

Darwin333

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Kids just are not good at suffering immediate discomfort for long term comfort. But to be fair many adults are not good at this either. I always bring my son's hoodie in the car just in case he needs it latter.

So what you are really trying to say is to beat them to make the immediate discomfort worse than just putting on the jacket/hoodie?
 
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Scottish Leanne

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Do you bundle your sister up inside?

It may be that she is hot and uncomfortable inside the house, and does not appreciate that she will be colder outside. Maybe zip her up halfway inside, and let her adjust once she is outside in the cold?

My twelve year old boy refuses to ware a coat or a hoodie when he goes outside if he is not cold at that imeadeate instant. No matter how much I point out that he is going to be cold latter on he never seems to appreciate that conditions can change for the worse, and he should be ready for them.

Kids just are not good at suffering immediate discomfort for long term comfort. But to be fair many adults are not good at this either. I always bring my son's hoodie in the car just in case he needs it latter.

If you mean so we get her to put her jacket, hood/hat, gloves and scarf on inside before she gets out then yes we do, if it's her hood up instead of a hat on then we do that as soon as she sets foot outside but everything else is done inside.

And in reply to Darwin, yup I'm 18.
 
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clamum

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Yeah we'll def need pics, it's like a rule here.

As for the child in question, them sulking after I zipped up the jacket wouldn't make much difference to me. If she unzips it and gets cold, well that's her fault and maybe she'll learn. If she's not cold with an open jacket, well maybe she's a superhuman or something and that's fine with me too.

I think the worst case is she catches a cold, which again, maybe she'll learn after that. So I wouldn't worry too much about it.
 
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CZroe

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I have no idea why it even matters. If she’s comfortable without zipping it up, why do you want to force her?

I was the crazy guy who went out in snow wearing shorts and short sleeves when I was school aged. To any adult who tried to tell me that I was setting a bad example for their kids, I just rolled my eyes and reminded them that you don’t catch diseases from cold temperatures. You catch them for bacteria and viruses. Flu season exists because of people seeking warmth together indoors.

Obviously, people wearing warmer clothes typically spend more time outside and less time huddling up with other Petri dish fleshbags inside, but my clothing shouldn’t matter when I’m outside. To this day, the only jacket I zip up is my motorcycle jacket. If the power or gas goes out or I get stranded outside in a winter storm, well, I still have the option of zipping it up and I will as soon as it would be more comfortable. That would obviously come LONG before frostbite and gangrene and whatever else.

Your 6yo sister isn’t in danger of freezing to death or she would want it zipped up. She isn’t going to die as a result and she isn’t going to get sick either, so where is the problem?
 
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MtnMan

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She will be just fine, stop pushing her to zip her jacket, as now it is a power struggle, and she will win.
 

Darwin333

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If you mean so we get her to put her jacket, hood/hat, gloves and scarf on inside before she gets out then yes we do, if it's her hood up instead of a hat on then we do that as soon as she sets foot outside but everything else is done inside.

And in reply to Darwin, yup I'm 18.

Yes, pics of yourself is standard policy.
 

snoopy7548

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When I was a kid I never zipped up my jacket. I just didn't like it for some reason, and my mom would always yell at me to zip it up. I did because I respected my mom and knew I had to; sounds like your sister knows she can get away with it. Start enforcing consequences.

Also, TTIWWP.
 
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OP, this is a really poor option for place to be asking advice on something like this (ignoring the non-serious answers you're getting, even the serious ones are going to come from people that...well are largely assholes and/or suffering from legit mental health issues). I have a hunch that you're actually concerned about some underlying behaviorial issue (that this is a symptom of but not the sole representative one)?
 

BurnItDwn

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When I would go out in winter and build snow forts with younger cousins, or my little brother or sister when I was a teenager or in my 20s, we simply let the little ones put the jacket on unzipped, and, once they started to feel cold, they could zip their jacket or ask for help.

Seems like, just make sure she has her jacket, gloves, and hat, and she should be able to figure out when she's cold, no?
 

Scottish Leanne

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She tells me that when she is at school she has to zip it up as well because her teacher doesn't want her coming back into the classroom dirty from rolling around in the mud :O.
 

CZroe

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When I was a kid I never zipped up my jacket. I just didn't like it for some reason, and my mom would always yell at me to zip it up. I did because I respected my mom and knew I had to; sounds like your sister knows she can get away with it. Start enforcing consequences.

Also, TTIWWP.
You want her to threaten "consequences?" Why would you encourage pointless behaviors that you still can't rationalize/justify?

OP, this is a really poor option for place to be asking advice on something like this (ignoring the non-serious answers you're getting, even the serious ones are going to come from people that...well are largely assholes and/or suffering from legit mental health issues). I have a hunch that you're actually concerned about some underlying behaviorial issue (that this is a symptom of but not the sole representative one)?
Oh, please. Way to make a bigger issue out of it than it is. Are you hoping she notices you taking it so seriously and appreciates it? Thank you, Internet white-knight!

It's pointless to make someone zip up their jacket if they don't want to. There is no survival concern here. There is no health/sickness concern. There is no behavioral concern. The OP can't even tell us why she thinks it's important, and she's not the only one who seems to think it is without being able to say why.

The only thing "needed" here is for us to show how trivial it is with logic and reason. You don't get sick from being cold. If anything, you get sick by seeking warmth around other people.

Elevating this to a discussion of some sort of childhood behavioral development issue is freakin' laughable. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the child having a preference. The OP just wants her sister to zip up and can't even say why. Lots of people seem to share in this strange assumption that it matters. Because some of us seem to have the same delusion, we're all better off if we nip this in the bud by talking about the real issue: The incorrect assumption [that it is good practice to zip up your jacket before you are uncomfortably cold].

You're welcome.

When I would go out in winter and build snow forts with younger cousins, or my little brother or sister when I was a teenager or in my 20s, we simply let the little ones put the jacket on unzipped, and, once they started to feel cold, they could zip their jacket or ask for help.

Seems like, just make sure she has her jacket, gloves, and hat, and she should be able to figure out when she's cold, no?
Exactly.
 
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MagnusTheBrewer

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Sorry CZroe but, zipping your jacket, wearing hat and gloves falls under health and welfare when you're six years old NOT, preference.
 
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