Getting tired of Skyrim already. Characters are wooden, quest fatigue.

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Because you cannot fast travel to a location that you have not visited previously. I do know how to fast travel. Basically I am not that good at pathfinding, and get really irritated when trying to find a pass through the mountains to find a location that I have not visited before. It just seems a sort of artificial way to extend gameplay, which is not really necessary considering that I seem to be getting more and more unfinished quests the more I play. I think I am going to go back to the main quest before I burn myself out on miscellaneous quests.

It is not quite so bad now, because sprint is suddenly working when it did not before, so I can travel faster. I just wish my follower could keep up and didnt keep getting stuck on terrain or totally disappearing.
I agree that finding some places can be a bit aggravating. At the same time I look at that as part of the RPG experience. Finally tracking down a hard-to-find location can almost be as rewarding as finding a strategy to kill the boss at the end of it that you just can't seem to beat.

My biggest complaint is buggy quests. I've had a few of them now. imo, that takes away from this game more than any other issue.
 

Sulaco

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Because you cannot fast travel to a location that you have not visited previously. I do know how to fast travel. Basically I am not that good at pathfinding, and get really irritated when trying to find a pass through the mountains to find a location that I have not visited before. It just seems a sort of artificial way to extend gameplay, which is not really necessary considering that I seem to be getting more and more unfinished quests the more I play. I think I am going to go back to the main quest before I burn myself out on miscellaneous quests.

It is not quite so bad now, because sprint is suddenly working when it did not before, so I can travel faster. I just wish my follower could keep up and didnt keep getting stuck on terrain or totally disappearing.

No offense, but...it sounds like this style of RPG might not be for you.

How is not being able to instantly teleport to a location you never visited seem unfair or unbalanced? Truly, the whole point of the game is to explore the vast world

Secondly, even with locations you have not discovered, a GIANT "Go Here" marker appears on your map, indicating exactly where you need to go, and also in your in-game HUD compass. There literally is no way they could make it any easier, other than just having you 'appear' everywhere.
 

Wardawg1001

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Because you cannot fast travel to a location that you have not visited previously. I do know how to fast travel. Basically I am not that good at pathfinding, and get really irritated when trying to find a pass through the mountains to find a location that I have not visited before. It just seems a sort of artificial way to extend gameplay, which is not really necessary considering that I seem to be getting more and more unfinished quests the more I play. I think I am going to go back to the main quest before I burn myself out on miscellaneous quests.

It is not quite so bad now, because sprint is suddenly working when it did not before, so I can travel faster. I just wish my follower could keep up and didnt keep getting stuck on terrain or totally disappearing.

I love this part of the game. I almost always find half a dozen new locations whenever I have to make a trek out into the wilderness for a quest area I haven't been to yet. Now if I couldn't fast travel back to town I would go absolutely insane, but thats another story. I've discovered forts full of undead, small towns with trainers and potential companions, caves with quests tied to them, dragons just chilling out on mountain peaks, giant camps, bandit camps, stormcloack camps, imperial camps, orc camps, small huts with old men or witches living in them, shrines to various gods, and a good many quest givers. All of this while wandering around to some quest I got from some dude in town. I also like to shoot down wildlife while I'm exploring, with my bow of soul capturing.
 

leadeater211

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I love this part of the game. I almost always find half a dozen new locations whenever I have to make a trek out into the wilderness for a quest area I haven't been to yet. Now if I couldn't fast travel back to town I would go absolutely insane, but thats another story. I've discovered forts full of undead, small towns with trainers and potential companions, caves with quests tied to them, dragons just chilling out on mountain peaks, giant camps, bandit camps, stormcloack camps, imperial camps, orc camps, small huts with old men or witches living in them, shrines to various gods, and a good many quest givers. All of this while wandering around to some quest I got from some dude in town. I also like to shoot down wildlife while I'm exploring, with my bow of soul capturing.

I am glad that someone actually said it, the best part about elderscrolls games is the fact that there is so much to do. everytime I try to do the main quest line I lose myself in all the other activities out there(dungeons, caves, mines, and occasionally taking the fight to a giant and getting pwned, ect) it's all part of the game. If you can't appreciate that you may want to stick with fps.
 
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finglobes

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I don't like spending a lot of time sorting through quests and losing the main path through a game. MY solution is to not buy a game until a year or so after its out and by then there are walkthroughs on YouTube that I can reference when I get stuck in the weeds. I don't care if its cheating or shortcutting because I don't like spending a lot of time looking for herbs, cures for vampirism etc
 

know of fence

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Once you discover that there are as many voice actors total as there are guards in Whiterun, then quests lose much of their appeal. Here's what helped.

- Learning how to use the journal, how to activate deactivate quest markers.
- Switching to hardest difficulty. Seriously, playing games on anything but hardest, isn't "how it is meant to be played". Especially because Skyrim is very fair, not trying to waste the players time at any point. Game reviewers saying they play on easy to just witness the story, may as well be saying they watch TV for education.
A lot of depth of combat/tactics is lost when playing on easy lets you get away with doing things wrong. Levelling up is actually accelerated on higher difficulty, because of stronger enemies and punishment that you take.
- In a blockbuster game that has "fetch" for quests and "Where's Waldo" for puzzles, you need to find ways to challenge yourself.
- Levelling up skills without spending perks a.k.a strewing around. Combining alchemy ingredients to discover (all) effects. Buffing your companions to one hit insta-killers or juggernauts.
- (hesitant to admit this) collecting: Deadric artefacts, continued book stories, quest memorabilia, all "peerless" attire.
 

Skott

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Generally speaking I play a game on normal difficulty the first time through to get a feel for it and then on a second pass, assuming I like the game, I'll switch to hard difficulty for more challenge. I do not agree a that playing a game, any game, on hard is how it was meant to be played. That is just my opinion though.
 

HeXen

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i play on easy generally. same with most games. however you want to play it is how its meant to be played, otherwise there would be no option.
 

know of fence

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Generally speaking I play a game on normal difficulty the first time through to get a feel for it and then on a second pass, assuming I like the game.

I get that. All I'm saying is that switching to hardest earlier only benefits the experience. IMHO once you are done fighting controls, it is a good time to switch.

I'm afraid this game will be hard to go back to once I explored it.
 

KentState

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I played Red Dead just before starting Skyrim and I can say that it can be done better. With RDR, I felt like my character was actually visiting living towns while the many keeps and town in Skyrim feel empty. The entire population of Skyrim could be under 500 people and most of them interact the exact same way each time once you get past the initial dialogue. However, it does take many hours for these to show and at that point you are high enough level and equipment wise that progression is beating the main quest or whatever you want to personally complete.
 

HeXen

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I get that. All I'm saying is that switching to hardest earlier only benefits the experience.

not if you don't have the time to play very often and wish to keep up on newer games and backlogs.^_^
But in this particular, i don't think the hardest setting would balance out the experience with the myriad of bugs and uninteresting NPC's
 

QuantumPion

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Jun 27, 2005
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Welp, I am officially done with Skyrim. Paid full price, got about 20 hours out of it, and I'm done. Just like Oblivion I guess, but different problem. I made two characters, a mage and a fighter. Both characters, when I got around to level 15 or so, just became completely unplayable. I guess there is some kind of difficulty wall built into the game at that level because with both characters, once I hit level 15, every single enemy just became an unkillable juggernaut. Random bandits and bears 1-shot me through blocks. Or my mage spends his whole mana bar to get a single enemy down to 80% health.

I don't know what they were thinking when they designed the leveling system in this game. Or really, I can't fathom how anyone has managed to get past level 15 or so. Do you guys just drop the difficulty down to the minimum? Or use some sort of cheat or mod which alters the gameplay?
 
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No offense, but...it sounds like this style of RPG might not be for you.

How is not being able to instantly teleport to a location you never visited seem unfair or unbalanced? Truly, the whole point of the game is to explore the vast world

Secondly, even with locations you have not discovered, a GIANT "Go Here" marker appears on your map, indicating exactly where you need to go, and also in your in-game HUD compass. There literally is no way they could make it any easier, other than just having you 'appear' everywhere.

Well, I agree that normally a more linear type game is my style. However, I was determined to enjoy this game, and overall I have. I agree that the quest markers in general make pathfinding pretty clear. However, several quests, at least in my game, did not show up quest markers at all. Could have been a bug, but it did happen to me. And I agree that you should not be able to fast travel to a place you have not previously discovered. My main frustration is that the mountains always seem to be in the way: even if the quest marker is clearly shown, you cant get to it without wandering around forever trying to find a pass through the mountains. Some of the miscellaneous quests just dont seem worth the effort. I was hoping to find some really good loot during the wandering around too, but havent so far. And exploring is fun at first, but I am finally getting tired of killing wolves, bears, bandits, etc over and over again.

So I think I am going back to the main quest or the faction quests, and just ignore a lot of the minor quests.
 

gothamhunter

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Welp, I am officially done with Skyrim. Paid full price, got about 20 hours out of it, and I'm done. Just like Oblivion I guess, but different problem. I made two characters, a mage and a fighter. Both characters, when I got around to level 15 or so, just became completely unplayable. I guess there is some kind of difficulty wall built into the game at that level because with both characters, once I hit level 15, every single enemy just became an unkillable juggernaut. Random bandits and bears 1-shot me through blocks. Or my mage spends his whole mana bar to get a single enemy down to 80% health.

I don't know what they were thinking when they designed the leveling system in this game. Or really, I can't fathom how anyone has managed to get past level 15 or so. Do you guys just drop the difficulty down to the minimum? Or use some sort of cheat or mod which alters the gameplay?

How are you having that much difficulty? Are you not appropriately using your skills? Are you trying to just level up destruction with your mage and not branch out to other trees?

I'm playing on hard difficult, no cheats, just smarts (no offense).
 

BudAshes

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These games don't get really good until they've been fully modded on the computer.
 

Sulaco

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How are you having that much difficulty? Are you not appropriately using your skills? Are you trying to just level up destruction with your mage and not branch out to other trees?

I'm playing on hard difficult, no cheats, just smarts (no offense).

This.

I'm a level 22 Imperial, focusing mainly on sneaking and archery, and with the proper leveling, I'm certainly NOT struggling with bandits. I just took out an entire Forsworn camp (roughly 10-15 Forsworn) alone, by sneaking and hitting them with arrows.
Stick with your strengths, and know what you're branching into, and how to fight.
 

lavaheadache

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Welp, I am officially done with Skyrim. Paid full price, got about 20 hours out of it, and I'm done. Just like Oblivion I guess, but different problem. I made two characters, a mage and a fighter. Both characters, when I got around to level 15 or so, just became completely unplayable. I guess there is some kind of difficulty wall built into the game at that level because with both characters, once I hit level 15, every single enemy just became an unkillable juggernaut. Random bandits and bears 1-shot me through blocks. Or my mage spends his whole mana bar to get a single enemy down to 80% health.

I don't know what they were thinking when they designed the leveling system in this game. Or really, I can't fathom how anyone has managed to get past level 15 or so. Do you guys just drop the difficulty down to the minimum? Or use some sort of cheat or mod which alters the gameplay?

Umm, was your mouse and keyboard plugged in? Certainly there are some worthy opponents but the level or difficulty you are describing I have not yet experienced and I'm a level 32
 

NoSoup4You

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Welp, I am officially done with Skyrim. Paid full price, got about 20 hours out of it, and I'm done. Just like Oblivion I guess, but different problem. I made two characters, a mage and a fighter. Both characters, when I got around to level 15 or so, just became completely unplayable. I guess there is some kind of difficulty wall built into the game at that level because with both characters, once I hit level 15, every single enemy just became an unkillable juggernaut. Random bandits and bears 1-shot me through blocks. Or my mage spends his whole mana bar to get a single enemy down to 80% health.

I don't know what they were thinking when they designed the leveling system in this game. Or really, I can't fathom how anyone has managed to get past level 15 or so. Do you guys just drop the difficulty down to the minimum? Or use some sort of cheat or mod which alters the gameplay?

I can't fathom how anyone could say this. I play on "Expert" and the game is too easy. Are you not selecting perks at level up or something? Or are you not specializing in any combat perks? The perks are extremely powerful, so much so that by level 15 I'd imagine using a combat style you don't have any perks in would probably be completely useless.
 

QuantumPion

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I can't fathom how anyone could say this. I play on "Expert" and the game is too easy. Are you not selecting perks at level up or something? Or are you not specializing in any combat perks? The perks are extremely powerful, so much so that by level 15 I'd imagine using a combat style you don't have any perks in would probably be completely useless.

My mage had mostly destruction and restoration. My fighter has a mix of sneak, one hand, and block. I did not heavily level up non combat skills on either. The mage leveled magicka every level, the fighter mostly health with a couple stamina. Both characters, once I hit level 15, every single enemy I encountered was entirely unbeatable. My fighter was playing on expert because it was too easy at first but even on adept he can't kill anything. The mage was always on adept.
 

QuantumPion

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Umm, was your mouse and keyboard plugged in? Certainly there are some worthy opponents but the level or difficulty you are describing I have not yet experienced and I'm a level 32

Yeah I must be triggering some sort of bug in the game based on my playstyle or the order I did quests in or something. But I don't really feel like starting over again just to figure out what the problem is. Was playing on expert difficulty with no problems and then all of the sudden, every enemy I encounter is like 20 levels above me. And not just in one area, lots of different places and quest lines. I got frustrated and gave up after about an hour of fucking around trying to find something I could kill somewhere.
 

Visaoni

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Yeah I must be triggering some sort of bug in the game based on my playstyle or the order I did quests in or something. But I don't really feel like starting over again just to figure out what the problem is. Was playing on expert difficulty with no problems and then all of the sudden, every enemy I encounter is like 20 levels above me. And not just in one area, lots of different places and quest lines. I got frustrated and gave up after about an hour of fucking around trying to find something I could kill somewhere.

I... I'm pretty sure the problem is you. Not some strange bug that completely destroys the scaling. That would be pretty weird, and for it to happen twice? Both times to you, and no widespread reporting of such an issue? Unlikely.

I'm still playing on adept in the low 20s as a mage, and actually have a bunch of unspent perk points, and have never found anything that difficult. I keep meaning to try turning it up to expert. I did briefly, but I was in an area with fairly frequent runes and even if I avoided them, Lydia would set them off behind me. Which would result in instant death. Enemies also weren't really that difficult, but took an annoying amount of time to kill. Of course, this was before I had much in the way of decent spells.

Did you buy new spells for your mage? I mean, you shouldn't be completely outclassed still using the basics even at 15, but... yeah. Probably not a weird bug.
 
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I can't fathom how anyone could say this. I play on "Expert" and the game is too easy. Are you not selecting perks at level up or something? Or are you not specializing in any combat perks? The perks are extremely powerful, so much so that by level 15 I'd imagine using a combat style you don't have any perks in would probably be completely useless.

I am not particularly good at combat, but am playing as a fighter one level below normal difficulty. I found the combat gets easier as you level up. I am now level 32. I dont think the enemies scale with you as enemies that were very difficult in the beginning such as the giants, are now fairly easy. I put most of my skills into two handed and archery, and my attributes into health and stamina. At this difficlulty, even my companion can kill most enemies by herself if I just stand around and watch.
 

QuantumPion

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I... I'm pretty sure the problem is you. Not some strange bug that completely destroys the scaling. That would be pretty weird, and for it to happen twice? Both times to you, and no widespread reporting of such an issue? Unlikely.

I'm still playing on adept in the low 20s as a mage, and actually have a bunch of unspent perk points, and have never found anything that difficult. I keep meaning to try turning it up to expert. I did briefly, but I was in an area with fairly frequent runes and even if I avoided them, Lydia would set them off behind me. Which would result in instant death. Enemies also weren't really that difficult, but took an annoying amount of time to kill. Of course, this was before I had much in the way of decent spells.

Did you buy new spells for your mage? I mean, you shouldn't be completely outclassed still using the basics even at 15, but... yeah. Probably not a weird bug.

Of course I had the best spells available. Are you letting Lydia kill everything for you? Because I am playing solo without party members.
 

waggy

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I put in 120 hours and finally got around to beating the main story. yes the quest are repetitive and the npc's a without personality.

I will play again though in a month or so. give the community time to come out with some great mods and add ons.
 

HeXen

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Finally got the game working again.
how do you get married? i have yet to see such an opportunity or dialogue...same with buying a house or taking over someones job who wants to sell their business? i hears someone speak that they would like to sell it, but i have tons of gold and can't figure out how to do that stuff.

Anyone been through Petoma's catacomb/tomb or whatever its called? pretty cool looking boss there but no good loot, its like a waste of time. When i exited i was high up on a mountain cliff and no way to get down safely...i died trying to scale down the cliff...impossible?? wft.
 
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