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DaaQ

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Affirmative action.

In their eyes, affirmative action is seen as taking jobs from them, because they see themselves as "these jobs are their birthright".

Hence their white male privilege, which a lot of white males don't feel they have.
Who are these "alot of white males" which feel they don't have white privilege? Make a sweeping generalization, but add some subcategories as well please?

What jobs are seen as their birthright? Are you talking about white males or a different ethnicity?

What jobs did affirmative action take? Please generalize but add some breakdown into let's say wage class. Is that doable?
 

cytg111

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If you trained an AI on this kind of data


It would be spitting this kind of nonsense too.
 

GettyRoad

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Who are these "alot of white males" which feel they don't have white privilege? Make a sweeping generalization, but add some subcategories as well please?

What jobs are seen as their birthright? Are you talking about white males or a different ethnicity?

What jobs did affirmative action take? Please generalize but add some breakdown into let's say wage class. Is that doable?
A majority of white men don't see white privilege as an issue, they don't think it exists.

It may be a generalization, but it is a fact. A majority of white men don't see white privilege as an issue like minorities and most Democrats.

Progressives and Democrats bring up the issue of white privilege. Republicans, specifically conservative white men see no issue with white privilege or even thinks it exists.

Conservative white men feel that affirmative action is reverse racism or that it takes away jobs, that are meant for them specifically, meaning their "birthright".
 

Amol S.

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I think Lee Zeldin would be a good running mate for Trump....he probably will get back the suburban vote....but he may overshadow Trump which he doesn't want

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You forgot to do research before you post again. Trump's campaign staff has already said Trump has a list, and almost all the top names on the list (they never said the names though), are all women. On a side note, Lee Zeldin would do nothing, the recent gubernatorial election results was not a surprise.
* Not many people knew who she was until Cuomo had to step down.
* She was the first Democrat nominee for governor since the last 100 years to not have been born or raised in New York City vicinity. (thus the reason why many in NYC did not go to vote. Furthermore, this meant she had less of an effect on Long Island where Zeldin came from. )
* It really was upstate New York big cities that made her win.
* Voter turnout was low.
There are many other Republicans better than Zeldin, but Trump would never want to be with them.
 

GettyRoad

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You forgot to do research before you post again. Trump's campaign staff has already said Trump has a list, and almost all the top names on the list (they never said the names though), are all women. On a side note, Lee Zeldin would do nothing, the recent gubernatorial election results was not a surprise.
* Not many people knew who she was until Cuomo had to step down.
* She was the first Democrat nominee for governor since the last 100 years to not have been born or raised in New York City vicinity. (thus the reason why many in NYC did not go to vote. Furthermore, this meant she had less of an effect on Long Island where Zeldin came from. )
* It really was upstate New York big cities that made her win.
* Voter turnout was low.
There are many other Republicans better than Zeldin, but Trump would never want to be with them.
Because he doesn't know them as much or think they will be loyal.
 

DaaQ

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A majority of white men don't see white privilege as an issue, they don't think it exists.

It may be a generalization, but it is a fact. A majority of white men don't see white privilege as an issue like minorities and most Democrats.

Progressives and Democrats bring up the issue of white privilege. Republicans, specifically conservative white men see no issue with white privilege or even thinks it exists.

Conservative white men feel that affirmative action is reverse racism or that it takes away jobs, that are meant for them specifically, meaning their "birthright".
What jobs? Be specific.

Because conservative white men are already supposed to be above these lost jobs.
 

outriding

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This thread needs to be locked. There is no clear topic. Just random shit about from a bit or and idiot or and idiot bot
 
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mikeymikec

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A majority of white men don't see white privilege as an issue, they don't think it exists.

It may be a generalization, but it is a fact.

Nope, it's a baseless assertion. Back it up with some decent evidence, or continuing baselessly blathering of course, though it won't stop other people from also contributing interesting anecdotes with no basis in fact, such as "the majority of white men are gay".

It's also interesting wording you've used there, "a majority of white men", because it could easily be true as long as you don't qualify it. "A majority of white men" ... in a given chapter of the KKK, for example. It could easily be false too, for example, "A majority of white men... on AT P&N".
 
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thraashman

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Affirmative action.

In their eyes, affirmative action is seen as taking jobs from them, because they see themselves as "these jobs are their birthright".

Hence their white male privilege, which a lot of white males don't feel they have.
I am a straight white male. A majority of my friends are straight, white males. None of us feel affirmative action is a problem for us and actually all support it. That doesn't mean I don't know straight white males who hate affirmative action, I do after all live in the south and know far more openly racist assholes than I'd like. They hate affirmative action, but they also all just outright hate black people and I've witnessed them openly say such. But Republicans have openly courted racists since before I was born, and I would never support the Democratic party attempting to do such.
 

fskimospy

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A majority of white men don't see white privilege as an issue, they don't think it exists.

It may be a generalization, but it is a fact. A majority of white men don't see white privilege as an issue like minorities and most Democrats.

Progressives and Democrats bring up the issue of white privilege. Republicans, specifically conservative white men see no issue with white privilege or even thinks it exists.

Conservative white men feel that affirmative action is reverse racism or that it takes away jobs, that are meant for them specifically, meaning their "birthright".
While this isn't the newest survey it's the most recent one I could find.


While 'not too much' or 'not at all' won 54/46, 'not too much' indicates at least some acceptance of white privilege, meaning over 80% of white people think it exists to at least some extent.
 

GettyRoad

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While this isn't the newest survey it's the most recent one I could find.


While 'not too much' or 'not at all' won 54/46, 'not too much' indicates at least some acceptance of white privilege, meaning over 80% of white people think it exists to at least some extent.
1) They don't see an issue that needs to be addressed
2) They feel: "Why do I have to be brought down to elevate someone else?"
 

GettyRoad

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You said they don’t believe it exists - this is untrue.
It is true. They always deny it is an issue or a problem, hence they don't believe it exists. Come on.




 

nakedfrog

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It is true. They always deny it is an issue or a problem, hence they don't believe it exists. Come on.




Always "they" this, "they" that, go fuck yourself with a baseball bat.
 

fskimospy

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It is true. They always deny it is an issue or a problem, hence they don't believe it exists. Come on.




I use actual numbers not editorials.
 

Amol S.

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It seems GettyRoad is starting to do reasearch before he posts. Your half way there, now all you need to do is research and show us numbers, not post editorials.
 

woolfe9998

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While this isn't the newest survey it's the most recent one I could find.


While 'not too much' or 'not at all' won 54/46, 'not too much' indicates at least some acceptance of white privilege, meaning over 80% of white people think it exists to at least some extent.

I think the problem is with the terminology. Liberals used to say that minorities were disadvantaged. Now they say that whites are privileged. In case nobody noticed, those two formulations of words actually mean the same thing as not having a disadvantage that others have could be termed a privilege. The problem, however, with framing it as privilege is the average white person, let alone all those not doing well, don't think of themselves as "privileged." I suspect the reason it was changed to "white privilege" is to make all white people feel guilty, even the ones who aren't racist. While if you frame it as a disadvantage to minorities, only the racists need to feel guilty.

It isn't really a winning formulation. But this is true with nearly all the left's identity politics these days. It's like these words and phrases are intentionally constructed to alienate white working class voters.
 
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Pohemi

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This isn't going to stop the Russian race-troll from creating other new threads, it's just to grab more attention.

Every new thread of his is saying, "hey look at me, come listen to me spew some racial bullshit from my ass! The longer others engage me in my idiocy, the better bonuses I get!"
 
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mikeymikec

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Always "they" this, "they" that, go fuck yourself with a baseball bat.

"People are saying..." - now where have I heard that one before...

Or:
Paedo-Finder General: Your gayness condemns you; it is written in stone.
Gay Man: Where?
Paedo-Finder General: On the wall behind the bus station - I carved it there myself; I have seen it with mine own eyes!
 
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