GF4: is it worth it?

[cool0221]

From what I see, GF4 is worth the upgrade only if you have too much money to burn or you don't have a GF3. I think the reason is, for the games that GF3 can handle well GF4 won't make a whole lot of difference: talking about 100fps versus 200fps. For the games GF3 sucks at, GF4 is not great either, like commanche4(I am kinda of a 75fps guy so 30fps and 40fps is the same for me).

I think a much more reasonable upgrade curve is to skip GF4 and go directly to whatever nvidia's next generation chip is if you have a GF3 currently.

What's your thought on this?

 

[tenoc]

4600 = not
4400 = not
4200 = yes

This from an R8500 user.

Of course, the Radeon would then replace the GF2 GTS Pro in rig #2!

 

[Pocatello]

Yes, since I have a GF DDR.

 

[Stiler]

Well i have a geforce 3 ti200 in this computer, i am building another computer and i went ahead and got a geforce 4 ti4600 and let me tel you, YOU WILL NOTICE THE DIFFERNCE, i mean i was lagging bad in games like dungeon siege at high detail, not anymore, had some in myth III also, not anymore. Just look at benchmarks, you can see the difference.

 

[308nato]

<< Well i have a geforce 3 ti200 in this computer, i am building another computer and i went ahead and got a geforce 4 ti4600 and let me tel you, YOU WILL NOTICE THE DIFFERNCE, i mean i was lagging bad in games like dungeon siege at high detail, not anymore, had some in myth III also, not anymore. Just look at benchmarks, you can see the difference. >>



What he said. I had a g3 ti-200 and went to a ti-4600 and the difference to me was staggering. I did not expect to see the difference be so profound.

 

[BFG10K]

I'm upgrading my Ti500 to a Ti4600 and the significant performance difference between the two cards is well-worth the upgrade for me.

 

[BlueScreenVW]

I'll probably get a Geforce 4 4400 or a Geforce 4 4200 depending on price difference when the latter gets out, and since I'm using a Geforce 2 Pro 32MB (200/400 MHz) I expect to see a big difference. Partly because of the large on-board memory, since even slight AGP texture transferring can screw up online shooting games.

 

[FalseChristian]

You'll be alot happier with a 128MB ATI RADEON 8500 (Retail). It's faster and better than a GeFarce4-Ti4600.

 

[blurredvision]

I upgraded from a GeForce 2MX to a GeForce4 Ti4400, and the difference was amazing!! I know, I know, that's a big jump, but it was amazing!!

 

[nRollo]

" You'll be alot happier with a 128MB ATI RADEON 8500 (Retail). It's faster and better than a GeFarce4-Ti4600"

Links please? I would be fairly surprised to see the 8500 faster than a Ti4600.

 

[Jumpem]

It is definitely worth it. I went from a 16mb TNT-1 card to a Ti4600.

 

[InsaneMorphius]

<< You'll be alot happier with a 128MB ATI RADEON 8500 (Retail). It's faster and better than a GeFarce4-Ti4600 >>



I too would be interested in seeing this as well.

 

[HowDoesItWork]

"<< You'll be alot happier with a 128MB ATI RADEON 8500 (Retail). It's faster and better than a GeFarce4-Ti4600 >>"

I would like to see some links/benchmarks as well. Especially since all the benchmarks I have seen show the 4600 smacking the 8500 around like a red headed stepchild. (Literally +50% performance). They aren't even close.

 

[nRollo]

False Christian, you should change your name to "False Prophet"
"You'll be alot happier with a 128MB ATI RADEON 8500 (Retail). It's faster and better than a GeFarce4-Ti4600. "

http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/02q2/020418/vgacharts-01.html
So, by having 10% faster core/RAM than 128 LE, the retail is going to make up the difference between 47 and 82fps? Sure it is.

http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/02q2/020418/vgacharts-02.html
Or between 75 and 124fps? I see.

http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/02q2/020418/vgacharts-03.html
Q3 is at least close, but then again the game is 3 YEARS OLD.

http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/02q2/020418/vgacharts-04.html
If your argument has one saving grace, it's Jedi Knight II, where a 8500 128 MIGHT be faster than a "GeFarce"

http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/02q2/020418/vgacharts-05.html
It won't make up that gap.

 

[GrumpyMan]

<< False Christian, you should change your name to "False Prophet" >>





LOL! Good one.

 

[vizionblind]

anything over ATi is an improvement

 

[Jstic]

Once you have played a few games on a GF4 4600 at 1600x1200 with all details maxed, you will see that it is definitely worth it. Its like a Porsche, there is no comparison.

 

[nRollo]

"Its like a Porsche, there is no comparison"

No, it's not much like Porsche at all. Porsche costs tens of thousands of dollars, is a status symbol recognized the world over, can induce women to lose their clothes, men to think "I wish...", and is unobtainable to most of the world.

A Ti 4600 is a fast VGA that costs $350, will be a fast VGA for another 6 months, causes women to yawn, men to think "maybe I'll pick one up next time I'm shopping, is a status symbol only in grade schools, and is obtainable by anyone with a job or plasma to sell.

See the difference?

 

[CubicZirconia]

<< You'll be alot happier with a 128MB ATI RADEON 8500 (Retail). It's faster and better than a GeFarce4-Ti4600. >>



He probably wasn't serious



<< No, it's not much like Porsche at all. Porsche costs tens of thousands of dollars, is a status symbol recognized the world over, can induce women to lose their clothes, men to think "I wish...", and is unobtainable to most of the world.[/Q

]

<< A Ti 4600 is a fast VGA that costs $350, will be a fast VGA for another 6 months, causes women to yawn, men to think "maybe I'll pick one up next time I'm shopping, is a status symbol only in grade schools, and is obtainable by anyone with a job or plasma to sell. >>



I think he meant its fast.

 

[dazedunconfused]

I am currently running a tired radeon 32MB ddr and unfortunately I don't have the money to shell out for a GF4 TI4600 so I'm going to settle for the 4200 or 4400 depending on how much money I can spare. It also kinda depends on how much bitchin I have to hear from the wife

 

[nRollo]

"I think he meant its fast. "
LOL- good one. I was just amused by the comparison. A P4 2GHz is "fast" but I still wouldn't call it a "Porsche".

 

[Stiler]

actually you can get a used porsche for about 10k, not bad at all, but its used.

 

[Leon]

Speaking of FalseChristian: I noticed something strange in his rig specs...


300 watt mini-tower case
ABIT-ST6RAID
1.2GHz Tualitin Celeron oc'ed to 1.548GHz (12x129)
256MB Infineon PC133 SDRAM (CAS 2-2-3)
32x Panasonic CD-ROM
------------------------------------------------------------------
ATI RADEON 128MB 8500 AGP 4x (300/600)
3dfx Voodoo5-5500 AGP 2x (182/182)
------------------------------------------------------------------
SoundBlaster Live! Value
40.9GB Fujitsu UATA100 7200 rpm
10.8GB Fujitsu UATA66 5400 rpm
Microshaft IntelliRat w/IntelliEyeball
Windoze ME
Standard 101 keyboard
21" ViewSonic P810 (.26mm)

Two AGP cards. I bet in SLI mode too

 

[KouklatheCat]

I upgraded from a GF2 GTS and it was DEFINATELY worth it. I love my GF4 Ti4400 card.

 

[gunf1ghter]

You definitely get enough horsepower to start to run some of the more hard core games (MOHAA) at higher resolutions with all the goodies turned on. I don't know about you, but when I buy a $50 game I want it to look the best that it can look today not 6 months from now when vid cards get cheaper.

I'm very happy with my TI-4400, and looking forward to using the DVI output in the near future on a flat panel screen!