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OdiN

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I don't get that "penalty".

I mean...illegal formation, there's a yardage penalty...but they basically get a do-over on their 1st down.

I think they should have declined that - I mean...whether it's at the 1 yard line or the 6 yard line isn't going to make too much difference for the Pats. Either the Giants are going to stop them or they aren't at that point.

*shrug*
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Moss got mugged

Moss didnt get mugged. That was a very iffy pass interference call. Moss has gotten away with contact and pushoffs all night. If they were calling the game even, that shouldnt have been a flag.
 

wyvrn

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Originally posted by: OdiN
I don't get that "penalty".

I mean...illegal formation, there's a yardage penalty...but they basically get a do-over on their 1st down.

I think they should have declined that - I mean...whether it's at the 1 yard line or the 6 yard line isn't going to make too much difference for the Pats. Either the Giants are going to stop them or they aren't at that point.

*shrug*


Given the Pats offensive tendencies, I think that penalty helped them. They are obvious running from the 1, but the 6 yards gives them more passing formation calls.
 

waggy

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oh man i thought that was going to be another run back.

maybe i am just to used to Hester heh
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: OdiN
I don't get that "penalty".

I mean...illegal formation, there's a yardage penalty...but they basically get a do-over on their 1st down.

I think they should have declined that - I mean...whether it's at the 1 yard line or the 6 yard line isn't going to make too much difference for the Pats. Either the Giants are going to stop them or they aren't at that point.

*shrug*


Given the Pats offensive tendencies, I think that penalty helped them. They are obvious running from the 1, but the 6 yards gives them more passing formation calls.

Exactly - and the Giants seem to be able to stop the runs better than the pass plays - and even if it's at the 1, it was still a 2nd down so at least a bit better chances. They could always just pile up and send someone jumping over for a try though too.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: waggy
oh man i thought that was going to be another run back.

maybe i am just to used to Hester heh

I guess you equally expected a fumble, too....
 

Reckoner

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Moss got mugged

Moss didnt get mugged. That was a very iffy pass interference call. Moss has gotten away with contact and pushoffs all night. If they were calling the game even, that shouldnt have been a flag.

lol, give me a break. The refs haven't been a deciding factor in this game EITHER way. I don't see you complaining about that ticky tack illegal formation call.
 

SirPorl

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Moss got mugged

Moss didnt get mugged. Both were making contact with eachother. That was a very iffy pass interference call. Moss has gotten away with contact and pushoffs all night. If they were calling the game even, that shouldnt have been a flag.

Amen to that. Moss pushes off constantly but rarely gets a flag for it.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Moss got mugged

Moss didnt get mugged. That was a very iffy pass interference call. Moss has gotten away with contact and pushoffs all night. If they were calling the game even, that shouldnt have been a flag.

yeah it should have. the guy had his hands on him while the ball was in the air. you can't do that.

he had dominate position. if he would have turned around and looked for the ball it wouldnt have been a flag. instead he was pushing etc while facing moss and not the play.
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Moss got mugged

Moss didnt get mugged. That was a very iffy pass interference call. Moss has gotten away with contact and pushoffs all night. If they were calling the game even, that shouldnt have been a flag.

lol, give me a break. The refs haven't been a deciding factor in this game EITHER way. I don't see you complaining about that ticky tack illegal formation call.

Well, if you're gonna flag THAT as pass interference you need to start flagging moss for offensive pass interference.

IF anything that penalty helped them...
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Moss got mugged

Moss didnt get mugged. That was a very iffy pass interference call. Moss has gotten away with contact and pushoffs all night. If they were calling the game even, that shouldnt have been a flag.

lol, give me a break. The refs haven't been a deciding factor in this game EITHER way. I don't see you complaining about that ticky tack illegal formation call.

Well, if you're gonna flag THAT as pass interference you need to start flagging moss for offensive pass interference.

IF anything that penalty helped them...


helped them? from the 1 yard line to the 6th?
 

Judgement

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Originally posted by: OdiN
I don't get that "penalty".

I mean...illegal formation, there's a yardage penalty...but they basically get a do-over on their 1st down.

I think they should have declined that - I mean...whether it's at the 1 yard line or the 6 yard line isn't going to make too much difference for the Pats. Either the Giants are going to stop them or they aren't at that point.

*shrug*

The play is blown dead... this is the same as if a false start was called; even if Vrabel had made that catch it wouldn't have counted.
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Moss got mugged

Moss didnt get mugged. That was a very iffy pass interference call. Moss has gotten away with contact and pushoffs all night. If they were calling the game even, that shouldnt have been a flag.

yeah it should have. the guy had his hands on him while the ball was in the air. you can't do that.

he had dominate position. if he would have turned around and looked for the ball it wouldnt have been a flag. instead he was pushing etc while facing moss and not the play.

The guy barely made contact. Moss has gotten away with much worse pushoffs/contact.
 

SirPorl

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What about when Plexico got hauled down when trying make a catch in the endzone. Ok if the Patsy defenders interfere???
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Moss got mugged

Moss didnt get mugged. That was a very iffy pass interference call. Moss has gotten away with contact and pushoffs all night. If they were calling the game even, that shouldnt have been a flag.

yeah it should have. the guy had his hands on him while the ball was in the air. you can't do that.

he had dominate position. if he would have turned around and looked for the ball it wouldnt have been a flag. instead he was pushing etc while facing moss and not the play.

The guy barely made contact. Moss has gotten away with much worse pushoffs/contact.

while yes i agree moss gets away with a lot. it was PI the defender can not have his hands on him when the ball is in the air. it was a fair PI call.

 

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Wreckem

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Moss got mugged

Moss didnt get mugged. That was a very iffy pass interference call. Moss has gotten away with contact and pushoffs all night. If they were calling the game even, that shouldnt have been a flag.

yeah it should have. the guy had his hands on him while the ball was in the air. you can't do that.

he had dominate position. if he would have turned around and looked for the ball it wouldnt have been a flag. instead he was pushing etc while facing moss and not the play.

The guy barely made contact. Moss has gotten away with much worse pushoffs/contact.

while yes i agree moss gets away with a lot. it was PI the defender can not have his hands on him when the ball is in the air. it was a fair PI call.

Not when they arent calling the game the same way for Moss... Thats PI then Moss should have been flagged atleast twice possibly a third. Moss
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: wyvrn
Good changeup call, but they had too much to pickup on 3rd down.

i don't think there are many calls for 3 and 22 heh


ohh bad punt.
 
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