Gigabyte GA-K8NS Pro

[imported_MzA]

That's the issue... some folks can make it over 200fsb at 1T timings... but it is hit or miss

So.. Is there any possibilities that my memories M-Tec PC3200, would be running in 200fsb without any clocking?

And where can I notice the difference between PC2700 and PC3200 memories? In games? In stability?

 

[Karl Norris]

Hey TaiJohn,

Is your 2T setting in auto?

Karl

 

[Karl Norris]

Hey all,

Last night for the heck of it I put in 2x256mb dimms. It behaved the same as my Muskin. At 197mhz+/- it was rock solid, any higher at 1T and reset.

When I enable 2T the ceiling is lifted, but the performance is very poor.

I will try another pair of memory tomorrow night. It is 2x512 Muskin PC3500, running in a friends dual channel 939 AMD64 3500+ system at 215fsb 1T.

Regards,

Karl

 

[cashtalks]

I Just recently put together a
Gigabyte K8NS - Pro with F2 Bios cw/ Athlon 3000 processor
2x500mb Ram
ATI Radeon 9600 Graphics Card
80 Gig Hard Drive
1 LG CD BURNER 52x32x52
1 LG SUPER MULTI DVD BURNER 12X8x4x5x16 & 40x24x40

also adding 2 x 40 gig HD's & ATI TV CARD as soon as I pull them out of my other comp


PROBLEMS

Ever time I boot my computer I get one short beep before windows loads.Just after turning power on. Is this a normal function. Can I disable it.It says in the manual that 1 short beep with award bios means system boots ok. Is this right?

Also, in my widows volume control. every time I adjust my main volume I get a default error sound.


If anyone can help answer these questions they can email me at cashtalks@shaw,ca


Thanks
Troy

 

[MornNB]

It is a normal function and if you want to turn it off just pull out your speaker cable.

 

[imported_MzA]

So can we just say that this board sucks?

 

[paradise]

Hi all, Can someone please tell me how to overclock my system with bios v.F5 (no easytune). I tried change the cpu clock ratio and raise the vcore to 1.6 but fail to boot,
the ram clock is 200 and I have not other value choose when I press the enter from the ram clock setting.
My cpu is Athlon 64 3000+, DDR400 Corsair 512MB CL2.5

 

[paradise]

Originally posted by: paradise
Hi all, Can someone please tell me how to overclock my system with bios v.F5 (no easytune). I tried change the cpu clock ratio and raise the vcore to 1.6 but fail to boot,
the ram clock is 200 and I have not other value choose when I press the enter from the ram clock setting.
My cpu is Athlon 64 3000+, DDR400 Corsair 512MB CL2.5

sorry guys. i can raise the ram clock by pressing "pageup/pagedown"
now my cpu frequency is running 220 * 10 at 37c (not full load)

will my cpu and ram die faster?

 

[Savarak]

Originally posted by: Karl Norris
Hey kongking,

That's the issue... some folks can make it over 200fsb at 1T timings... but it is hit or miss.

In my case I can not. Any thing over 197mhz and it coughs.

Whatever you end-up with settings... it's always a great idea to verify stability with Prime95, Memtest86, SuperPI, etc.

You can try turning up your memory voltage to see if this helps...

Regards,

Karl

I'm not able to change the 2T option in the bios, how do you get 1T? what are the defaults for PC3200? 1t or 2T?

 

[TaiJohn]

Originally posted by: Karl Norris
Hey TaiJohn,

Is your 2T setting in auto?

Karl

i'm not sure what 2T means, but the BIOS (F2) says T2 settings AUTO and cpu frequency Auto

my ram settings are 2,5 -4-4-8

 

[Karl Norris]

Hey all,

When you have 2T set to auto... there is a good chance that it is coming up as 2T.

Want to know for sure... set this parameter in BIOS to disable. What happens? If your system becomes unstable and/or no longer boots... lol, guess it was setting to 2T... .

Seriously, my system will not do 200mhz fsb at 1t, but using a OCZ ddr booster, and raising the voltage to 3.0v I can get to 235mhz but only at 2T timings (2T in auto)... and the kicker is that this variable seems to totally clobber performance... I am back to 193fsb, at 1T and tight memory timings, and the system is faster.

Just something to think about...


Yesterday, I did find a pair of 2x256mb dimms that would run at 200mhz and 1T timings. It didn't seem to make appreciable difference to my 193mhz... and I really need the extra memory from my 2x512mb pair... and my best overclock is at 2.45ghz.... a comfortable fit for my 193mhz fsb.

Regards,

Karl

 

[Karl Norris]

Hey Savarak,

My understanding is that the 2T variable is useful for more then two dimms... in the larger installs where you want to you 2GB of ram it'd be necessary to turn this on. You'd give up performance... but be able to 'drive' the additional dimms.

It's a surprise to me that we have to use this variable with two double sided memory dimms to get over 200fsb. Another motherboard, or another vendor's board and this might not be necessary.

For those chasing performance... beware the 2T setting... it really seems to have an impact.

This is not the 2T of old... I do not have a great understanding of the memory parameters. I do know that when I was running my Muskin at 235mhz 8 2 2 2.0 and it was doggy... I was scratching my head .

Regards,

Karl

 

[Marasmus]

It's kind of strange you people are having problems running your memory at 200MHz FSB with the 1T memory setting. My 3200 memory runs stable at 218MHz 2-2-2-5-1T settings.

 

[sne35]

Hi,

i already bought a k8ns pro mb and it arrived yesterday. i havent started to put it togather yet and i just now noticed this fourm and am wondering if there is a better board for the 64 3000+ that i also go yesterday.....i am not huge in to overclocking but would like to fiddle with it just to see where it would go.

here is what i have

k8ns pro
amd 64 3000+ (newcastle)i can post the chip data later if needed (i am not at home right now)
for ram i was gonna use what i have which is 1 gig of samsung pc 3200
sata segate 200 gig HD
audigy gamer
nividia 5600 ultra 256mb

what i am wondering, is what to expect first putting togather any problems or settings i should change or aviod right away

or is this not the best motherboard since the posts seem up and down about it

any advice would be nice

 

[Savarak]

its a really good motherboard, its just a little finicky about the ram it takes... hope your gig of ram works, but the first thing to do is up the voltage a little for the ram, because (at least on mine), it defaults to 2.5v, which is below the new standard of 2.6v...

 

[MornNB]

It's kind of strange you people are having problems running your memory at 200MHz FSB with the 1T memory setting. My 3200 memory runs stable at 218MHz 2-2-2-5-1T settings.

HUH? With this board?

 

[Marasmus]

Originally posted by: MornNB

It's kind of strange you people are having problems running your memory at 200MHz FSB with the 1T memory setting. My 3200 memory runs stable at 218MHz 2-2-2-5-1T settings.

HUH? With this board?

Indeed. Why would I post that here otherwise?

Here's my memory:
PQI 1024MB Turbo Memory Dual channel
- 400 MHz. (PC3200) CL 2-2-2-5, Mirr Black

Here's something I found online about this memory:
"When it came to overclocking the PQI PC-3200 Turbo memory we found the BEST overclock to be 542MHz DDR (2.5-3-3-7). This gave us a solid 142MHz increase over default and roughly a 1,400 MB/sec increase in memory bandwidth performance..."

Haven't tried overclocking with relaxed timings yet, but I will once I get a better CPU-cooler.

Guess the PQI/PMI memory can be recommended for this board

 

[Karl Norris]

Hey Marasmus,

Awesome.

I suspect that the newer IC memory modules work better in this board.

Just for clarification though, you have the 2T option at the bottom of the Ctrl-F1 page set to disable?

Do you run SuperPI? What do you get for 1M digits?

Regards,

Karl

 

[sne35]

thanks for the tip, on the ram voltage....

i was wondering if people have are still having issuse with the cpu temps? it seemed to be a problem across a range of differnt motherboard being a bios problem rather then an actuall heat problem

so should i pay more attention to it or just look for the norms

also would it be better to go with faster ram above the 3200, i have someone looking at my old stuff to use so i may look in to going with new ram as well (2x512 pc3200 samsung) and if so what?

 

[sne35]

i also had someone tell me that it would be bad to use both the sata and ide hard drives in the same system

cuz i had thought of keeping my 80gig for the o/s and just having the 200gig sata as storage...would this be bad?

 

[Karl Norris]

Hey sne35,

These are just my thoughts... hopefully others will chime in...

As my signature shows, I have an AMD64 3200+ (2.2ghz,512kL2). I don't see the issue with temperature. When fully loaded and overclocked to 2.45ghz, high's are 53C, about right for an internal temperature reading I'd guess. The heatsink reaches around 35C.

When you setup up your system, be extra careful when you make-up your cpu to apply heat compound in a smooth, thin layer. Use a good quality heatsink and fan (stock is fine for normal speed or mild OC). And finally when your "up" check in BIOS first thing to make sure the cpu temperature is stable. Allow a little burn-in time for the compound to shape (my preference) and then try some 'shake-out' by booting to Memtest86 and let it run for an hour. If error free after a couple hours, install WinXP, patches, drivers, etc. Next Prime95 and run blend test for a couple hours. If this comes back without errors, and the temperatures from within EasyTune are reasonable you should be good to go.

As far as running a mix of IDE and SATA... hmmm, wonder what the person you were talking with was referring to? I guess my answer would be that it is usually okay to do (I AM!). On this board some folks have found disabling one or the other of the SATA controllers to allow higher overclocks.

In my case, I am using the SATA for a raid0 array 2x36gbWD and a Maxtor 160GB on the IDE. Like you say, it is nice to have the storage space. That is the kind of thing the extra ports are for!

Regards,

Karl

 

[sne35]

thanks for the advice,

i am having trouble and i am not sure why
i am using a solo sata 200 gig seagate and bios sees that its 200 gig capacity but when i go to install windows and format the drive windows only sees 131 gigs......why??? am i missing something do i have to install scsi or raid drivers....is this the problem?

i dont understand........

everything else works great i did do an install with the 131 gig reading and ran 3dmark for a day and high temp got up to 41 so i was happy with that

but if anyone has a suggestion about getting the full capacity of the drive please let me know

 

[Karl Norris]

Hey sne35,

Did you reformat your new hard drive?

In WinXP look under Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, Disk Management. Is the whole hard drive formated?

If not, you could create a partition and use it. Not sure if you can extend the existing partition to the whole drive or not...might need a utility to do that...

I suppose you could always start over and boot off WinXP CD and delete the existing partition form a partition out of the whole drive and then install.

Of course, if during the beginning of the install you didn't press 'F6' that might have caused the problem. You should add the controller driver that the hard drive is on to properly recognize your hardware and install the OS.

Take a look and shout back,

Karl

 

[sne35]

yeah i have to go and get some floppy disks since i cant just read it off the driver cd that came with the mb (sigh nothing is ever easy)

 

[Privateer]

Read every page on this thread.
im getting some of these tomm.
1 - OCZ 512MB (2x256MB) PC3500 Dual Channel Platinum Edition EB-DDR CAS2.5
Ill let you know how i get on.

Ive posted a link to my web,im hosting the bios not on Gigabyte site.same disclaimer if it goes wrong its not my fault.

Hosting........F2b..F2d..F3a..F4a..F5...In the file hard to find bios

Been told to remove link.sorry.Pm me if you want them.