Gigabyte GA-K8NS Pro

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tOiRb

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Has anyone been able to OC with the memlock set to 200? And have it stick on cold boot?



Please provide all settings if possible. Bios ver., cpu overclock, memory timings, ht speed, temp, voltages, etc.

Thanx
 

Etrnaly

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mine's working great right now. set at 215 in bios. both mem and cpu (a64 3200+) is at that speed. default core voltage. temps are decent, about 38C idle with cnq enabled (using mbm to test temp). full load is in the upper 40's. haven't done too many benchmarks, but superpi finished (32M), so it seems stable. no crashing yet. gunna try to bring it up a bit more in teh coming days. the only thing still missing is the tabs in easytune. other than that, F2 official seems to be working great.
 

imported_BuLLiTT

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Has anyone been able to OC with the memlock set to 200? And have it stick on cold boot?

NO

200 only seems to sick at default settings
ie
A64 3200 = 10 x 200
Anything above and the system reboots it self back to nornal.
 

Etrnaly

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Originally posted by: BuLLiTT
Has anyone been able to OC with the memlock set to 200? And have it stick on cold boot?

NO

200 only seems to sick at default settings
ie
A64 3200 = 10 x 200
Anything above and the system reboots it self back to nornal.

yes. using a64 3200+. both mem and ram's at 219 right now. they were set in the bios, and it boots with no problems. cnq enabled too.

screenshot
 

Link

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Just found something very odd with how this mobo handles system memory.
My system was very stable at 2.35Ghz (10x235)@ 1.55V. Memory was running at 201mhz@2.7v this morning, then all of sudden, during last 20 minutes, when I cold booted the system, I started to get all sorts of error messages and Prime95 (2nd test) wouldn't last 3 seconds.
I first thought cpu needed more voltage. Bumping up the voltage to 1.65 didn't help. Then I ran memtest at the same setting, and it gave me mutiple errors.
Only when did I turn the system power off and cold booting the system again, everything became stable again. I still don't know what caused this problem. My guess is that the bios randomly initialize different, and it either sets the memory timings too low or not feeding enough voltage to the modules.
FYI, I have 2x512 TwinMOS PC-3200 with BH-5(the best) chips for my system
 

tOiRb

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Jun 23, 2004
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link:

Now I'm really scared. My new board will be here tomorrow. What bios were you running at your last install?

My Foxconn is running so-so. But the only way I can get good marks is by running their software OC tool called "SUPERSTEP". I can run stable at 230 cpu memlock at 166. Their PCI AGP lock works only in a special beta I got from them. I can OC but it won't stick. By the same token. it's just two mouse clicks to set clock up to 232 within winxp. When I run that way I get great benchers, but it won't boot if I set it in the bios. This will b my son's mobo when I get the gigabyte.

Tomorrow I will do a complete reinstall with my replacement mobo (more fun).
 

Savarak

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Is there anyway to change the speed of the boot of the RAID bios? I hate waiting for that dumb screen... I already disabled the SATA one cuz I don't use it, but I have drives in the GIGARAID ports
 

deltscot

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Jul 14, 2004
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Ya, waiting for the RAID check sucks.

I am having major temp problems. MBM measured my chip at 72C the other day. After my mad dash to shutdown I haven't had it on since. I was using the stock fan (AMD64 3000) with the pad and it was running between 60-63C so I bought Artic Silver thinking it was the pad. Well now I'm screwed. I bought a new fan yesterday (Venus something or other) and I hope it helps.

Has anybody had problems with the stock fans? When I mounted mine, it did not take that much effort to clip it on. Provided, the new lever system makes it easier than the previous screwdriver stab, tilt, and pray method, however, I think it was far to easy. My point being that I think the contact pressure between my chip and my fan is not great enough to adequetly tranfer enough heat. Am I crazy? Any other suggesions besides new fan?
 

imported_Jayl

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Jul 15, 2004
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How do you turn off Cool n´ Quiet?

I´ve also had the so called "cold boot issue". I´ve tried both F2 and F3a bios. I can run totally fine 10x240@1.55V 1:1 but when I turn off my computer the settings won´t stick. There is no problem when just restarting. So far I´ve managed to find settings 11x220MHz, that will stick after cold boot. So I have come to a conclusion that the multiplier change doesn´t work correctly. Any suggestions what could be done? I really wouldn´t want to run my OCZ EB´s @ 220Mhz when I could be able to run them @ 260MHz...
 

Link

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Did you install the driver from AMD?
If you did, just remove from "add and remove programs"
If you didn't install the driver, you don't have CnQ yet.
 

imported_Jayl

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Jul 15, 2004
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Oh, I didn´t install any drivers.. good, so I don´t have CnQ, that´s good because one more possibility that doesn´t effect the cold boot issue...
 

Etrnaly

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3200+ is stock at 10X200. it's only unlocked downward. so your 11X220 is still only going to be 2200. if ur mem can run at 260, try putting the multiplier at 9.5X260. that'll put ur mem at 260 and ur cpu at 2470. or try something lower. dunno how high ur cpu can go.
 

Erehwon

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My system takes about 2 secs to load through the boot windows... I've diabled the raid and it just flies.....
 

tOiRb

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Got replacement mobo. Same old song and dance. 5V all over the place. This PS is the best (40Ax 5v) and ran A1 in my other mobo. Anybody got any ideas? At the end of my rope...

Willing to try anything other than going back to the Foxconn right now.
 

Savarak

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maybe its not really fluxuating and just bad readings... if its stable... then keep it
 

imported_Jayl

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Originally posted by: Etrnaly
3200+ is stock at 10X200. it's only unlocked downward. so your 11X220 is still only going to be 2200. if ur mem can run at 260, try putting the multiplier at 9.5X260. that'll put ur mem at 260 and ur cpu at 2470. or try something lower. dunno how high ur cpu can go.

Actually my CPU is newcastle (512KB cache) so it´s at stock 11x200=2200MHz. And if I can count correctly 11x220 is 2420

Well, anyway I solved my problem yesterday evening and it sure was a mystery to my. I am able to run prime95 at least 10 hours at 10x240MHz@1.55V so of course I assumed that it is completely stable at 1.55V. So when trying to solve the multiplier problem I somehow set my Vcore to 1.7V when changing other settings. Then suddenly it cold booted just fine. I was like WTF. So I find out that it was the "low" Vcore which was my problem. So I have to set Vcore to 1.65V to startup my computer. That kind of sucks cause I can prime with 1.55/1.60V Vcore as long as I want. I don´t know if the problem is caused by CPU or MB, but anyway now it´s solved...


Originally posted by: tOiRb
Got replacement mobo. Same old song and dance. 5V all over the place. This PS is the best (40Ax 5v) and ran A1 in my other mobo. Anybody got any ideas? At the end of my rope...

Willing to try anything other than going back to the Foxconn right now.
I wouldn´t be too worried about your +5V going up and down. I have the same thing and It doesn´t make any problems. The problem might just be the mobo which is just giving bad readings or that´s my opinion. If your system is stable don´t make it a problem...
 

tOiRb

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Jun 23, 2004
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Thanks Jayl... the key does appear to be in upping the core. I have been successful with 10 x 235 and my sys likes the settings. I set core to 1.65v and it was like you sait wtf! Running great. Excellent benchmarks in Aqua (60k+) with stock settings on x6800.

Tried 10 x 243 and my vid card said hell no. It ran like 1/4 speed. Funny ting is I have the multiplier set to 9.5 in cmos, but within XP says 10 x 235. I've also gor my dram voltage at +.1.

With the settings I am using my 5v looks a lot better.

Is anyone getting temps on your Power supply indicating it's on fire? I get like 60C or so and I know that's not correct, it's blowing cool air and I've put probes on it which indicate it's right around case interior temp + a few degrees.

Also waht's the deal with cool and quiet. i downloaded from MD and installed the processor drivers, they took, but upon reboot, can't find anything about coolnquiet...

Running Mushkin level 1 pc3500 at 2-3-3-6 cmd1.

Any input is truly appreciated. Thanks again Jayl...that's called serendipity.
 

Etrnaly

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to turn on CnQ....right click on the desktop and click on properties. then click screen saver, and click power at the bottom. then change it to minimal power and CnQ will be turned on. check if it's on by right clicking on my computer and clicking on properties. the speed should be dropped to around 800mhz.
 

Link

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Jan 10, 2000
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Hey, guys!
What's your case temperature reading with MBM?
Mine is fixed at 25C no matter what. I tried changing the case sensor. One was giving me -112C and another one 2~4C below the cpu temperature.
 

rogelio

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I've been using my system for the last month and a half with NO hitches... gaming was perfect for 5 hours at a time... NEVER a single problem.

I tried gaming yesterday...

My PC works perfectly in every facet except for when I play a Direct3D/DirectX game (for an unpredictable amount of time). I was playing UT2004 for 20 minutes and no crashes. I play Quake3, and it crashes after 4 minutes. Seems like it crashes fastest with Quake? however, it?s crashed in UT2004, and in MOHAA after like 5 or 6 minutes? it?s completely unpredictable. It just stops and either freezes frames? or? the monitor signal gets cut and my monitor goes into the standby mode? in both, the PC is completely unrecoverable (can?t ctrl-alt-del)

I?ve even gone back to a Ghost image of about a month ago? and I still got the crash. I know it isn?t bios or Cool N? Quiet related (because it was working fine for the last week under the newer bios and CNQ? and the problem persisted even after recovering the month old Ghost backup).

I've pulled out the 9800pro card and tried it in my older PC... no problems.
I tried the older PC's GeForce4MX420 on my PC... no problems.

As soon as I try my 9800pro in my PC again... crash after 5 seconds of playing QuakeIII.

I've found the problem.... urgh...

Well, it seems like my RAM is the source of the problem. I have 2 sticks of 512Mb corsair Value Select in slots 1 and 2. I would get the crashing when I had my Radeon card in... but not when I used the old GeForce4MX card.

When I pulled out the RAM stick from slot 2... Games WOULD NOT crash; However, when the two RAM sticks were in slots 1 / 2 or 1 / 3 ... it WOULD CRASH!

Bizarre, huh? SO... if i want to play games... i've gotta only use 512mb ram in slot 1.

SO... i can't truly narrow down whether the motherboard, video card, or memory is the "True" source of the problem... rather, it seems like it's an aggregate of the three!
 

imported_Jayl

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Jul 15, 2004
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Originally posted by: tOiRb
Any input is truly appreciated. Thanks again Jayl...that's called serendipity.
No problems, glad I could help.
Btw. no problems with PSU temps..

I also tired cool and quiet. First I set stocks settings 11x200MHz and it ran great, dropping vcore to 1.1. and CPU to 800MHz, dropped my CPU temps approx 8 degrees. I thought great... But when trying to run overclocked it was a no go. It allways crashed before got to windows... that´s too bad cause it ain´t working when OC´ing and/or it would have been great if I had been able to have such temps with cool and quiet, but there isn´t much to do...

Originally posted by: Link
Hey, guys!
What's your case temperature reading with MBM?
Mine is fixed at 25C no matter what. I tried changing the case sensor. One was giving me -112C and another one 2~4C below the cpu temperature.
I have the same thing, it´s allways showing 25c no matter what...

Rogelio what revision is your CPU, CO or CG?
 

MrSamson420

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Jun 15, 2004
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Guys, I am don't think that this MOBO has an onboard case temperature sensor. I have an external on my case and it reads between 24C and 33C depending on the day. So motherboard monitor is reading back only a default value of room temperature (25C).
 

vicvon

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Hey rogelio,

Try loosening your ram timings or drop the ram speed to 166 instead of 200 and see if that helps.


Victor
 

Savarak

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i have a 3000+ and C&Q only brings it down to 1ghz... how do i get it to go to 800mhz???
 
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