Gigabyte P35 Motherboard Thread

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lightzout

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Thanks for the great post on Friday Kougar. I haven't been able to play with my new rig much but I am happy to say that I have made it past the awkward new mobo manual phase and have finally made some progress into overclocking this machine. I am running the 5h bios but i will try to get the 5l tonight. Overall I am very happy with this motherboard despite the initial confusion but I always consider the learning curve when trying a new brand and chipset. Despite the fact that none of gigabytes application work well this mobo seems to be very well built and the "auto" timings have let me go to 7x357 with no errors or crashes and no voltage increases. I will continue to go higher but I am a slow burner as i would rather "test stability" by playing games in between reboots at higher speeds. Having this mobo with the zerotherm hsf in a P180 is amazingly quiet. On more than one occasion I have had to look at the inside of the case to see if it was still on.

Thanks for the tip on the memory performance settings. I have left it at standard thus far but was thinking it may soon be time to go turbo as the fsb gets higher.
 

Toti

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Hi all
I had a Gigabyte GA-N680SLI-DQ6 but it crashed on me when I was trying to update Back up BIOS with a floppy.
I got a "Copy BIOS Failure"
It is an awsome mobo.
But I got now Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 and so far so good but the latest BIOS F5G is not good atleast not for me.
So I changed it back.
I am running this mobo like this:
E6600 at 360x9=3240MHz
CPU Voltage 1.44
Memory Freg 900 and voltage 2.1
And idle system is 52 celcius and cpu 39 celsius.
I got Antec P180
Sparkle Geforce 8800GTX 768 MB GDDR3 PCI-E
800MHz - MDT Twinpacks 2048MB CL5 2x1024 memory
SoundCard is Creative SB X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty PCI
and a PSU ofcourse
Thermaltake 650 watts.
And I disabled CPU EIST Function. Why? Because of thread from TheBeagle for Gigabyte GA-N680SLI-DQ6 so thats was my choice.
And so far so good.

You guys are having OK withs mobo?


sry forgot i got an
OCZ Vindicator CPU Heatsink
 

otherwise

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Originally posted by: otherwise
By the way, is there any chance that people who have working memory can post exactly what sticks they have? I need to order a new pair tonight and I really don't want to have to deal with the headache of a RMA again

The two I've seen mentioned in this thread are extreemly premium sticks, is there anything decent that is confirmed to work nearer to $100/2x1Gb?

Been procrastinating, but still need new memory. Can anyone here answer this?
 

otherwise

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Originally posted by: Colt4545
The last sentence is incorrect. 32 bit OS'es handle 4 gigs total memory, which includes video card, sound card and other components' memory. Component memory comes first before system memory.

What memory addresses correspond to the video card? What sort of protection mechanisms are used to prevent the system from treating the video card memory as system memory?
 

ToddLC

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I just purchased a GA-P35-DS3P. I received rev. 1.0 instead of 1.x.

Does anyone know what the differences are between these two versions other than the change in the heatsinks?

My understanding is that rev. 1.x has been available for a couple of months, so I was a bit surprised to get a 1.0 version. For anyone who recently purchased this board, what version did you get?
 

JasonCoder

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Originally posted by: bungee91
<blockquote>quote:
Originally posted by: drakore

One question I have is that what kind of cooler will fit in the P35-DQ6? I highly doubt my Ninja will.</blockquote>

It does in fact fit, as that is the cooler I am going to purchase hopefully with the DS4 and has been tested and fits (barely).
"There was literally 3-4 millmeters of clearance for the Scythe to install" (http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...=2186265&postcount=54)

Anyone know if the Scythe "Mine" will have any problems with the DS3P?
 

Ozoneman

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Originally posted by: otherwise
By the way, is there any chance that people who have working memory can post exactly what sticks they have? I need to order a new pair tonight and I really don't want to have to deal with the headache of a RMA again

The two I've seen mentioned in this thread are extreemly premium sticks, is there anything decent that is confirmed to work nearer to $100/2x1Gb?

Crucial Ballistix PC-6400.
 

mylittlepony

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Just built a new system a few days ago (upgrading from an MSI K9N Platinum with AMD X2 3800+ with eVGA 7600 GT).

New specs are:
Gigabyte GA-p35-ds3r
Conroe E6750- stock heatsink/fan
Corsair CM2x1024-6400C4 (runnning at 400Mhz, 4,4,4,12)
eVGA 8800 GTS 320 MB (overclocked version)
Enermax Liberty 620w power supply
Windows Vista 64-bit Home Premium
Acer AL2216W 22" monitor

CPUZ reports motherboard version as "x.x", not sure what that means.
BIOS version is F4 (latest non-beta as of Aug 4 07)

This was my first Gigabyte board (usually get MSI or Asus). Nice features, fairly easy to put together, though it would've been nice to have a Firewire header.

Using BIOS defaults, CPU was running at 2 Ghz and memory timings were 5-5-5 (despite the SPD)

I found the following instructions here and updated BIOS accordingly:

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3. In the Advanced Bios Features Menu, Disable all of the following: CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E), CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2), CPU EIST Function
4. In the PC Health Status menu, set the FAN Speed Control Method to "Legacy" & FAN Speed Control Mode to "PWM" to maintain highest speed
5. Go into the MB Intelligent Tweaker (MIT) menu at the bottom of the page, set the System voltage control to "Manual"
6. These boards have a default VDIMM of 1.8v, set the VDIMM to co-ordinate with your ram. The Geil I have is specced as 2.1v so I have mine set to +0.3v
7. Set the MCH Voltage to +0.1v
8. Set the FSB Voltage to +0.1v
9. Set the VCORE to 1.45v - Please be aware that this will increase temps!
10. Set the CPU Host Clock Control to "Enable"
11. Set the System Memory Multiplier to "2x"
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Using those settings, I was able to correct the memory timings and fix the CPU speed.

Overall impression from the last few days:
* excellent performance for games (I can run at the highest settings on a 22" mo
* Vista isn't as annoying as I thought it would be, though I've had about 3 bluescreen + restarts over the last few days, not doing anything intense.
* So far, I'm reasonably happy with the Gigabyte board. It's a bit annoying that you have to do a "secret" key combo to get at the memory timings (CTRL-F1 from the main BIOS menu) and that the "optimized" defaults result in the processor running at 2Ghz instead of 2.66. The instructions that came with the board were decent (probably on par with MSI).

No overclocking at the moment, but I would like to at least mildly overclock the system...from what I've read, that's a reasonable goal.

Now for my questions:
1. I'm still trying to figure out my Speedfan readings. I get the following at normal use:

Temp1: 52C (!)
Temp2: 32C
Temp3: -2C (wtf?)
Core 0: 30C
Core 1: 31C

So what is Temp1? Speedfan puts the "fire" icon next to it, but the case never feels that hot, and the other temps seem fine.

I've been unable to get TAT to work on Vista64 (tried a few workarounds I found, but it still doesn't work).

Last question: assuming that I'm just going to go for a mild overclock, could I go back to the BIOS and enable a few of the energy saving features (e.g. EIST, C1E)? On my AMD setup, I enabled Cool-n-Quiet, which worked out well; if I set my Control Panel Power Options to the energy savings mode, it would half the CPU clock cycle without a noticeable performance penalty, but appeared to ramp it back up to full when needed. If I was going to be playing games for awhile, I'd set the power settings to "Desktop", which would prevent Cool and Quiet from running. In other words...could I do a mild overclock and still use the Power Settings to be able to have the "best of both worlds"?


 

Ozoneman

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Mylittlepony,

Are you an experienced overclocker? Where did you get those bios suggestions?

The settings you have set in the bios don't seem right to me. You haven't overclocked yet and you set the vcore to 1.45 to run at stock settings? You changed the ram to 2X which will give you a slower ram speed than you had. With your DDR@800 ram you will be running at 667 instead of 800 if your e6750 fsb is 333. You will need to increase your fsb to 400 to get your ram running at 800 if you set the ram multiplier to 2X.

The processor runs at 2 GHz when it isn't under load. If you put a load on it, it increases to 2.66. That is the way it is supposed to work.

You mentioned you got some Bluescreens. Try putting the bios back to optimized defaults and see if you have the screens anymore.
 

SerpentRoyal

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Use Core 0 and 1...temp of each core. You'll probably see 45 to 50C under Orthos Large mode testing. As long as you stick with the default multiplier, C1E and EIST should be functional. Some boards will disable them at higher Vcore and FSB. Be sure to set power options in windows to MINIMAL mode. The PC will dynamically overclock the FSB and voltage at higher CPU load.
 

mylittlepony

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Originally posted by: Ozoneman
Mylittlepony,

Are you an experienced overclocker? Where did you get those bios suggestions?

The settings you have set in the bios don't seem right to me. You haven't overclocked yet and you set the vcore to 1.45 to run at stock settings? You changed the ram to 2X which will give you a slower ram speed than you had. With your DDR@800 ram you will be running at 667 instead of 800 if your e6750 fsb is 333. You will need to increase your fsb to 400 to get your ram running at 800 if you set the ram multiplier to 2X.

The processor runs at 2 GHz when it isn't under load. If you put a load on it, it increases to 2.66. That is the way it is supposed to work.

You mentioned you got some Bluescreens. Try putting the bios back to optimized defaults and see if you have the screens anymore.

No, I'm not an experienced overclocker, just trying to learn.
I got those suggestions from another forum. Actually, forgot to mention that I did NOT set my vcore that high...that was the one thing on that list I didn't do. My core is still running in the ~1.31 range. I was trying to get a good baseline setup from which to slowly overclock from.

CPUZ says that my RAM is running at 400Mhz and the bus speed is 333...is that possible?

I know that with power-saving features on the processor can automatically slow down, but with AMD's Cool-and-quiet, I was able to run a few apps and get it to jump up to stock speed, not so with this one.

Does anyone know what the sensor at Speedfan's Temp1 is reporting?
 

Matte979

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I bought an E6750 and the P35-DS3R. First I was very unhappy with it as I somehow could not overclock with manual voltage, it just would not post. I wanted a FSB faster than 400 and it just would not post consistanty beyond 390, I tried everything. I raised memory volt and lowered speed to 2 for memory (1:1) to FSB and could not get it to post. I over volted CPU to 1.5 and both North bridge and FSB and PCI +0.1, read all the forums out there and was ready to accept 3.2 as overclock.

Then I tried something else, I set the FSB to 390 and then I activated all Intel speed functionality. I set speedboost to Sport in the Bios. This suppose to give you a 10 percent boost.

And somehow it worked same voltage and I am now runing at 3.5 Ghz. Ram at 530*2, Got OCZ 1066 memory. Tested it for 8 hours in Orthos.

I just dont get it why the bios wont post consitantly above 390 FSB but I can run it in VISTA with speedboost at 438 and voltage is sometimes lower. I guess the good thing is that I run with lower Mhz when the computer is not working.

I run water cooling so it would have been nice to get higher voltage and get even higher.

I will try again with the next bios revsion running F5e now.
 

DanMiner

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P35-DQ6 voltage settings

Maybe I'm just missing the obvious, but how do you know what the voltage settings are for the RAM and chipset? "Normal" and "+0.10V" don't tell me what the memory is actually set to. Is "Normal" = 1.80V or is it what the manufacturer puts in the SPD (2.2V in my case).

On "Auto" the BIOS will (possilby) overvolt to get a working system while overclocking. But I'm worried that the voltage is too high and will damage my RAM.

Using Crucial Ballistix DDR2-1067 (PC8500) in another MB (ASUS) the best OC I can get on 2.2V is about 1120. On the DQ6 using "Auto" I can go to insane 1195. :Q After setting voltages to "Manual" and "Normal" the most I can get is about 1095. So - I'm guessing the "Auto" setting is giving me an over-volt of 2.3V or higher.

Anyone know how to tell what the REAL voltage is for the memory - and chipset?

Gigabyte P35-DQ6 F4 BIOS w/ E6750 and Scythe Ninja
XFX 8800 GTS 320MB
2GB Crucial DDR2-1067 (PC8500)
Antec 900 w/ Silverstone OP650
 

mylittlepony

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Originally posted by: DanMiner
P35-DQ6 voltage settings

Maybe I'm just missing the obvious, but how do you know what the voltage settings are for the RAM and chipset? "Normal" and "+0.10V" don't tell me what the memory is actually set to. Is "Normal" = 1.80V or is it what the manufacturer puts in the SPD (2.2V in my case).

On "Auto" the BIOS will (possilby) overvolt to get a working system while overclocking. But I'm worried that the voltage is too high and will damage my RAM.

Using Crucial Ballistix DDR2-1067 (PC8500) in another MB (ASUS) the best OC I can get on 2.2V is about 1120. On the DQ6 using "Auto" I can go to insane 1195. :Q After setting voltages to "Manual" and "Normal" the most I can get is about 1095. So - I'm guessing the "Auto" setting is giving me an over-volt of 2.3V or higher.

Anyone know how to tell what the REAL voltage is for the memory - and chipset?

Gigabyte P35-DQ6 F4 BIOS w/ E6750 and Scythe Ninja
XFX 8800 GTS 320MB
2GB Crucial DDR2-1067 (PC8500)
Antec 900 w/ Silverstone OP650

It is lame that they don't tell you what the defaults are, but you can use Speedfan to deduce them. Assuming that Speedfan's Vcore2 reading is the DDR2 voltage (pretty sure it is, but I'm a novice at this), I have mine boosted by +.3 and Speedfan reads it as 2.13, which tells me that the default DDR voltage is 1.83
 

Ozoneman

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Originally posted by: mylittlepony
Originally posted by: Ozoneman
Mylittlepony,

Are you an experienced overclocker? Where did you get those bios suggestions?

The settings you have set in the bios don't seem right to me. You haven't overclocked yet and you set the vcore to 1.45 to run at stock settings? You changed the ram to 2X which will give you a slower ram speed than you had. With your DDR@800 ram you will be running at 667 instead of 800 if your e6750 fsb is 333. You will need to increase your fsb to 400 to get your ram running at 800 if you set the ram multiplier to 2X.

The processor runs at 2 GHz when it isn't under load. If you put a load on it, it increases to 2.66. That is the way it is supposed to work.

You mentioned you got some Bluescreens. Try putting the bios back to optimized defaults and see if you have the screens anymore.

No, I'm not an experienced overclocker, just trying to learn.
I got those suggestions from another forum. Actually, forgot to mention that I did NOT set my vcore that high...that was the one thing on that list I didn't do. My core is still running in the ~1.31 range. I was trying to get a good baseline setup from which to slowly overclock from.

CPUZ says that my RAM is running at 400Mhz and the bus speed is 333...is that possible?

I know that with power-saving features on the processor can automatically slow down, but with AMD's Cool-and-quiet, I was able to run a few apps and get it to jump up to stock speed, not so with this one.

Does anyone know what the sensor at Speedfan's Temp1 is reporting?

Try putting the bios back to optimized defaults and see what you get and see if you get any bluescreens. Start over so we can see what you starting with.
 

mylittlepony

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I reset everything to the optimized defaults, then went back and set the memory timings to Crucial's spec'd settings (4-4-4-12) with a +.3 boost in DDR voltage to get it up to 2.1

I should note that the bluescreens I got before didn't happen during a high load...seemed to be pretty random (but not highly frequent...maybe once a day, twice at the most).

Before I reset, I ran Ortho for 5 minutes....
* temp1 hovered between 50C and 52C
* temp2 crept up to 53C
* temp3 stayed at -2C (whatever that is)
* core0 and core1 hovered between 48C and 50C

Are these reasonable baselines to begin some conservative overclocking with?
 

DanMiner

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Originally posted by: DanMiner
P35-DQ6 voltage settings

Maybe I'm just missing the obvious, but how do you know what the voltage settings are for the RAM and chipset? "Normal" and "+0.10V" don't tell me what the memory is actually set to. Is "Normal" = 1.80V or is it what the manufacturer puts in the SPD (2.2V in my case).

On "Auto" the BIOS will (possilby) overvolt to get a working system while overclocking. But I'm worried that the voltage is too high and will damage my RAM.

Using Crucial Ballistix DDR2-1067 (PC8500) in another MB (ASUS) the best OC I can get on 2.2V is about 1120. On the DQ6 using "Auto" I can go to insane 1195. :Q After setting voltages to "Manual" and "Normal" the most I can get is about 1095. So - I'm guessing the "Auto" setting is giving me an over-volt of 2.3V or higher.

Anyone know how to tell what the REAL voltage is for the memory - and chipset?

Gigabyte P35-DQ6 F4 BIOS w/ E6750 and Scythe Ninja
XFX 8800 GTS 320MB
2GB Crucial DDR2-1067 (PC8500)
Antec 900 w/ Silverstone OP650


I can't believe the overclock I'm getting with "Auto" voltages. It will POST and boot Memtest86+ v1.70 at 490FSB x 8 = 3.920 GHz. Of course it dies quickly after that. But it has passed memtest for over 3 hours at 476 x 8 = 3.808 GHz. This is with memory ratio of 2.5 for 1190 MHz. (I'm leaving it to run all day today.) I have NOT installed WinXP yet so I know I will end up with a lot lower orthos stable OC - maybe 3.5 to 3.6 GHz. Still amazing to me considering it's air cooled...

Anyway, thank you mylittlepony for the info about speedfan but since I haven't installed XP yet I can't use it. Does anyone know what the BIOS calls "Normal" for all of the voltages not just the memory?

Does the F5L BIOS do a better job of telling you the voltages? Should I upgrade to F5L? (using F4 now.)

I am also looking forward to Kougar's overclocking guide. I can't seem to get the FSB over 495 MHz. Anyone with any tips on max. FSB tuning?
 

Allistah

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Hey guys..

I'm planning on getting a GA-P35-DQ6 board so I wanted to post my base system to see if anyone sees any issues with it:

Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6
Intel e6850 (3GHz Duo) Proc
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
nVidia 8800GTX 768mb
Antec P182 case
Corsair 620HX PSU

I'll be using the stock heatsink/fan from the proc. Do you guys see any issues with what I listed above? I plan on overclocking at some point but first and foremost I want it stable at stock settings. If I can OC a bit and get more out of it that is all a bonus. I want it to work perfectly at stock settings and that is what I'm most concerned with.

Btw, will this setup overclock well? ;-)

Thanks for the info,

-Allistah
 

mylittlepony

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Originally posted by: mylittlepony
I reset everything to the optimized defaults, then went back and set the memory timings to Crucial's spec'd settings (4-4-4-12) with a +.3 boost in DDR voltage to get it up to 2.1

I should note that the bluescreens I got before didn't happen during a high load...seemed to be pretty random (but not highly frequent...maybe once a day, twice at the most).

Before I reset, I ran Ortho for 5 minutes....
* temp1 hovered between 50C and 52C
* temp2 crept up to 53C
* temp3 stayed at -2C (whatever that is)
* core0 and core1 hovered between 48C and 50C

Are these reasonable baselines to begin some conservative overclocking with?

Update: still running at stock speeds; only BIOS change is forcing memory to use spec'd timings with memory voltage bump to 2.13 (versus the stock 1.83)

Still getting bluescreen-shutdowns. I'm not sure that it's related to the hardware though; I am running Vista Home Premium x64, which being much younger than XP is probably less stable at this point. Some of the bluescreens occurred while I was logged on to a remote XP computer via Windows Remote Desktop...I suppose that could be an issue.

Given that my temps are pretty good with the stock fan (cores idle in the low 30s, peak at 50C), I may try some mild overclocking soon...will post results when I do.
 

jhan1

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Hi guys, been checking out these boards for a while now and thought maybe you could help me out.


Just built the system in my sig and everything is great except for my system temp. I'm getting around 55c idle and 65c after gaming for an hour. This seems pretty high to me. My other rig is similar except for an asus board and it never moves from 38c. Nothing is overclocked.

The dq6 came with the f4 bios. The coolermaster only came with the two stock fans so i just added 3 more 120mm fans today. Idle temp went to 47c. I still wasn't happy so i mounted an old slot cooler with double fans under my 8800gtx. Idle temp is now 40c and 42c after an hour of Oblivion. This seems like a lot of cooling just to get a board that isn't even overclocked to a decent temperature. My 6850 cpu has stayed nice and cool at 27c idle and 35c load thru all of this.

Do you think i should rma this board? I had to remove the crazycool backplate to install the zalman, but i think newegg should take it back. Any advice will be appreciated!!!!
 

Kougar

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Originally posted by: cruser1068
Its here I get confused!!! To maintain a 1:1 ratio with my 1066 RAM I would need an FSB setting of 533 right? That would put the CPU at 4.8Ghz...which even if I had watercooling is unlikely to work. Even dropping multiplier to 8 would still result in an obscene CPU speed of 4.26Ghz....way faster than Im ever gonna get stable with my rig. In the past I found going over 3.4Ghz and I would start to get into trouble. So how do you get this nirvana like state of 1:1????? Sorry if Im missing something obvious. Does it mean you have to run the RAM slower to compensate for a faster CPU? And is that really more beneficial than using a different divider. Thanks again for your time.

You have it backwards, a 1:1 setting straps the RAM to your CPU's FSB, NOT the other way around. Stock 266FSB 1:1 strap would mean DDR2-533MHz RAM. Stock 333FSB 1:1 strap would mean DDR2-667Mhz RAM. 534FSB overclock would mean 1067Mhz RAM. As I said, 1:1 divider is roughly 5% extra performance. That is not much, but it is there for those that bleed performance. It's not critical or anything.



Originally posted by: otherwise
By the way, is there any chance that people who have working memory can post exactly what sticks they have? I need to order a new pair tonight and I really don't want to have to deal with the headache of a RMA again

The two I've seen mentioned in this thread are extreemly premium sticks, is there anything decent that is confirmed to work nearer to $100/2x1Gb?

I don't get it. I just don't. I have owned both the Corsair 6400 2x1GB kit and Corsair 6400c4 2x1Gb kit. Not only are they the same chips with a different bin grade, but both kits worked well out of the box on my two Gigabyte boards. I've done 501FSB overclocks with them at 2.1v using Option 2 for the DLL setting in the BIOS, fully stable. They top out at just above 1,000MHz though, I did not use voltages above 2.1v for them. Short of not manually setting +0.3v in the BIOS so they run without errors I couldn't even hazard a guess as to why you'd have issues with them.


Originally posted by: mylittlepony
thod to "Legacy" & FAN Speed Control Mode to "PWM" to maintain highest speed
5. Go into the MB Intelligent Tweaker (MIT) menu at the bottom of the page, set the System voltage control to "Manual"
6. These boards have a default VDIMM of 1.8v, set the VDIMM to co-ordinate with your ram. The Geil I have is specced as 2.1v so I have mine set to +0.3v
7. Set the MCH Voltage to +0.1v
8. Set the FSB Voltage to +0.1v
9. Set the VCORE to 1.45v - Please be aware that this will increase temps!
10. Set the CPU Host Clock Control to "Enable"
11. Set the System Memory Multiplier to "2x"
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Using those settings, I was able to correct the memory timings and fix the CPU speed.

Overall impression from the last few days:
* excellent performance for games (I can run at the highest settings on a 22" mo
* Vista isn't as annoying as I thought it would be, though I've had about 3 bluescreen + restarts over the last few days, not doing anything intense.
* So far, I'm reasonably happy with the Gigabyte board. It's a bit annoying that you have to do a "secret" key combo to get at the memory timings (CTRL-F1 from the main BIOS menu) and that the "optimized" defaults result in the processor running at 2Ghz instead of 2.66. The instructions that came with the board were decent (probably on par with MSI).

No overclocking at the moment, but I would like to at least mildly overclock the system...from what I've read, that's a reasonable goal.

Now for my questions:
1. I'm still trying to figure out my Speedfan readings. I get the following at normal use:

Temp1: 52C (!)
Temp2: 32C
Temp3: -2C (wtf?)
Core 0: 30C
Core 1: 31C

So what is Temp1? Speedfan puts the "fire" icon next to it, but the case never feels that hot, and the other temps seem fine.

I've been unable to get TAT to work on Vista64 (tried a few workarounds I found, but it still doesn't work).

Last question: assuming that I'm just going to go for a mild overclock, could I go back to the BIOS and enable a few of the energy saving features (e.g. EIST, C1E)? On my AMD setup, I enabled Cool-n-Quiet, which worked out well; if I set my Control Panel Power Options to the energy savings mode, it would half the CPU clock cycle without a noticeable performance penalty, but appeared to ramp it back up to full when needed. If I was going to be playing games for awhile, I'd set the power settings to "Desktop", which would prevent Cool and Quiet from running. In other words...could I do a mild overclock and still use the Power Settings to be able to have the "best of both worlds"?

Keep in mind I never had to raise the FSB voltage from stock at 501FSB, and I only had the MCH voltage at +0.05v which is half that.

That is also the setting I mentioned regarding the CPU fan control previously. Remember that PWM setting is useless if you do not have a 4pin fan connector/4pin fan header! I simply disabled fan control on my board to keep the CPU fan going, before I switched to water.

Temp 1 should be your motherboard PCB temp as I recall. Run ATI Tool for 10 minutes with the 3d cube left spinning, and see what happens to this temp. If it climbs higher then yes, it is your motherboard PCB temp. Gigabyte placed it to close to the PCIe slot, it reads high in systems that use 8800 series cards.


@Jhan1

Which temps are you referring to by "system"? 38c sounds like a motherboard temp.

G80 cards radiate a good deal of heat up into the case, I have a theory that Gigabyte stuck their motherboard sensor to close to the main PCIe slot, so they pick up on the heat to easily.

I don't think you should RMA, you would get the exact same results with a new board. I get the same thing with just a 8800GTS, although my temp stays within the mid 40's even with the entire system idle and cold. I might contact Gigabyte and see if they'll tell me where they stuck the sensor...

Just feel the chipset cooler and all the heatpiped fins, as long as they are cool to the touch your chipset isn't running at the temperature that the motherboard PCB sensor is reading.
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Remember Gigabyte boards do not have a speaker built into them. If you do not hook up the case speaker, then you will never hear any error beeps.

Also "Normal" DDR2 voltage is 1.8v. This is official JEDEC specification. Just start counting at 1.8v when you change the RAM voltage from within Gigabyte's BIOS. Gigabyte does at least tell you your specific default CPU Vcore, if nothing else.

Gigabyte board defaults are ALWAYS going to use 1.8v for RAM and 5-5-5-15 timings for RAM! These both must be manually set to your specific RAM specs.

For anyone that has RAM stability issues and is running the latest BIOS release for their board I would suggest changing the Memory Performance option to "Standard". There seems to be some instances of MCH strap settings being set to tightly and conflicting with some of the RAM mutlipliers. This option is set to "Turbo" by board defaults.

On another note, I'll have the guide finished inside two weeks before my classes resume. My apologies for the wait. I plan to include BIOS photos, but after I flashed to the latest BIOS I lost all my saved BIOS profiles. I recall the settings for my 3.5Ghz overclock, but I will need to do some testing to find the exact FSB and MCH voltages I previously used at 3.74Ghz. I use voltages sparingly, as my reply to mylittlepony above might indicate. It's my first attempt at a real guide, so trying to get the content right is slowing me as well.
 

jhan1

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Which temps are you referring to by "system"? 38c sounds like a motherboard temp.

Yes Kougar the system temps i am talking about are the motherboard temps. Thanks for the quick reply. If your getting around 45c at idle maybe i am worrying about nothing. All my heat fins are just a little warm to the touch, not burning hot. I should probably take into account that my apartment is in the low 80's right now. Its darn hot in here!!!!
 

Allistah

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Hey guys..

I just ordered my system yesterday with the GA-P35-DQ6 board, Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800 ram (BL2KIT12864AL804), and an Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0GHz Retail.

I've read this entire thread about 3-4 times now and I want to make sure I understand what I should do when I get it put together and turned on for the first time.

1) Update to the latest beta bios version
2) Select Optimized Defaults in the bios
2) Increase the ram voltage to from 1.8v to 2.2v
3) Set the timings for this ram to whatever the ram is spec'd at

Then I plan on installing Vista and making sure the system is completely stable before I do any overclocking/tweaking.

What tools should I use to make sure that things are completely stable? I used to use Prime95 for 24+ hours but maybe there is something else that is better? I seen people mentioning Ortho but I don't know how good it is. Should I use a combo of these programs? I just want to make sure that with everything at ground zero that my system is rock solid.

Thanks a bunch,

-Allistah
 

mylittlepony

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Originally posted by: Allistah
Hey guys..

I just ordered my system yesterday with the GA-P35-DQ6 board, Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800 ram (BL2KIT12864AL804), and an Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0GHz Retail.

I've read this entire thread about 3-4 times now and I want to make sure I understand what I should do when I get it put together and turned on for the first time.

1) Update to the latest beta bios version
2) Select Optimized Defaults in the bios
2) Increase the ram voltage to from 1.8v to 2.2v
3) Set the timings for this ram to whatever the ram is spec'd at

Then I plan on installing Vista and making sure the system is completely stable before I do any overclocking/tweaking.

What tools should I use to make sure that things are completely stable? I used to use Prime95 for 24+ hours but maybe there is something else that is better? I seen people mentioning Ortho but I don't know how good it is. Should I use a combo of these programs? I just want to make sure that with everything at ground zero that my system is rock solid.

Thanks a bunch,

-Allistah

I'm not 100% sure that you need to increase the RAM voltage. Earlier things I'd read about my Corsair 6400C4 sticks suggested that it helped but others here claim that the stock 1.8 is fine. This site has some recommendations for voltages and settings for that stick. This might be the spec for your Crucial sticks, but the model number is slightly different (ends in AA804 instead of AL804).

Regarding tools:
* ORTHO, Speedfan, and CPUZ are all useful for monitoring performance and temperatures at load and idle, and all are free.
* Intel's free TAT temp analyzer does not run on Vista x64 (I'm pretty sure it does run on Vista x32).

I do get occasional bluescreen restarts, but I'm not ready to lay the blame on my setup just yet; could easily be a Vista issue.
 

Allistah

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But what about tools to make sure that the system is stable? I used to use Prime95 for 24 hours or more to qualify if it was stable or not.

What are you guys using and how long do you use it before you badge your system as "stable"?
 
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