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DrDoug

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Not trying to silence? Does the boot not silence the ant? Yes words were delivered, but hatred was returned.

I sure hope this is parody because if it isn't, wow. If it is parody, kudos! Either way, the only thing I hate here is the time I'm wasting on assholes who use lots of words to sound wise and tut tut those who will never understand the depth to which they understand life and those who live it. Deep man, deep.

Right right, I know, you and VRAMdemon have meticulously and demonstrably expressed how much you don't care.

I saw this one coming and almost addressed it in advance in the closing of my last post but didn't because I wanted to see if you would go for it. Yup! Thanks for the laugh, Moonie.
 
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pmv

Lifer
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You should talk to @pmv. He believes sexism is part of masculinity.

So are you going to defend past representations of 'masculinity' as seen in a million cultural products, very much including adverts, as not being in any way sexist?

Nice bit of weasel-wording though to sneak in the assumption that 'masculinity' is some fixed and eternal quality.
 

realibrad

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So are you going to defend past representations of 'masculinity' as seen in a million cultural products, very much including adverts, as not being in any way sexist?

Nice bit of weasel-wording though to sneak in the assumption that 'masculinity' is some fixed and eternal quality.

Well, it looks like any post I make is going to have a certain someone down vote me. How silly is it to follow someone around and down vote very post they make lol.

I'm not going to defend anything. I happen to side with you vs Vic on this. I do think that masculinity historically and now does not contain only positives. Again though, you have presumed my position to be that of opposition to you when clearly I do not.

Now, lets see if my follower down votes this one as well.
 
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Moonbeam

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Straight up quite possibly the most idiotic thread started by OP in P&N. The fact that 3 other dumbasses have jumped in with both feet is just sad and depressing.
Oh, I don’t know. Now that you’ve posted this it seems to have jumped up three levels. I mean really, all we were lacking, surely, was for you to come by and take a dump.
 

Moonbeam

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. I saw this one coming and almost addressed it in advance in the closing of my last post but didn't because I wanted to see if you would go for it. Yup! Thanks for the laugh, Moonie.

Please, no, thank you. It was very kind of you to care enough to tell me I made you laugh. I’m really impressed that you saw it coming and realized how happy it would make me feel to put in the effort to tell me.
 
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Starbuck1975

Lifer
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Do you disagree with it?
In some instances, I agree. As it relates to this particular ad, I do not.

Some men can be @ssholes. Here are a few cliche and exaggerated gender stereotypes. Buy our razors.

It is possible to agree with the message while also dismissing the ad as a misfire.
 

realibrad

Lifer
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Conservatives: you SJW snowflakes should stop getting offended over everything.

Also conservatives: THIS RAZOR BLADE AD ENRAGES ME.

At the very least, does anyone here seem to be enraged by this ad that is on the conservative side?
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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In some instances, I agree. As it relates to this particular ad, I do not.

Some men can be @ssholes. Here are a few cliche and exaggerated gender stereotypes. Buy our razors.

It is possible to agree with the message while also dismissing the ad as a misfire.

In some instances? Conservatives just went full on fuck your feels for years, and cry about persecution over just about anything, for years. When in reality, it's just standard projection when they reveal their hand in these instances
 
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Moonbeam

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I can point you to plenty of conservative media that is.
I don’t see any conservative media posting here, only people expressing opinions. It seems to me the conversation, not that we’ve had much of one, would improve if we could deal with the actual things people say instead of addressing the boxes into which we have put them. What I see is an intolerant rejection of others based on ideology.
 
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Starbuck1975

Lifer
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In some instances? Conservatives just went full on fuck your feels for years, and cry about persecution over just about anything, for years. When in reality, it's just standard projection when they reveal their hand in these instances
Indeed they have. It doesn’t mean we can’t debate the merits of an ad that, despite its best intentions, is poorly executed.

Do you think its a good ad? I am not asking if it offends you. Do you think it is good?

It doesn’t offend me. I’ve never seen an epidemic of men behaving this way, but I am lucky. I was a latchkey kid of the 70s/80s and my male role models were WW2 vets. I can assure you none of them were very woke. Honorable, but not woke.
 

fskimospy

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I don’t see any conservative media posting here, only people expressing opinions. It seems to me the conversation, not that we’ve had much of one, would improve if we could deal with the actual things people say instead of addressing the boxes into which we have put them. What I see is an intolerant rejection of others based on ideology.

I think it's best to not limit conversation about society to things people say in threads on this message board.

If you think my statement is inaccurate, say so. If your argument is that my statement is true but that people on this message board don't exhibit that behavior my response would be 'who gives a shit'.
 

DigDog

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Im telling you guys even if they come out supporting Trump for emperor, i ain't boycotting Gillette, their razors are too damn good.

A man's gotta shave*

assuming said man was born genetically male while in the case of a man born female but with full legal right to identify as male said man shall be exempt from the need to shave unless they feel said need in ehich case ALL CIS GENDERED MALES MUST BE BURNT ALIVE !! DEATH ! DEEEAAAATTHHH !
Limitation may apply.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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Im telling you guys even if they come out supporting Trump for emperor, i ain't boycotting Gillette, their razors are too damn good.

A man's gotta shave*

assuming said man was born genetically male while in the case of a man born female but with full legal right to identify as male said man shall be exempt from the need to shave unless they feel said need in ehich case ALL CIS GENDERED MALES MUST BE BURNT ALIVE !! DEATH ! DEEEAAAATTHHH !
Limitation may apply.
You clearly have not discovered the joy of wet shaving with a safety razor.
 

Moonbeam

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fskimospy: I think it's best to not limit conversation about society to things people say in threads on this message board.

M: I have no problem with that. My point is hat I feel it unfair to apply stereotypes drawn from society and pigeonhole individuals with them.

f: If you think my statement is inaccurate, say so. If your argument is that my statement is true but that people on this message board don't exhibit that behavior my response would be 'who gives a shit'.

M: None of the above. I care when people are viewed as exponents of ideologies when they express opinions and those are viewed from past statements. In a hurry here
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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Indeed they have. It doesn’t mean we can’t debate the merits of an ad that, despite its best intentions, is poorly executed.

Do you think its a good ad? I am not asking if it offends you. Do you think it is good?

It doesn’t offend me. I’ve never seen an epidemic of men behaving this way, but I am lucky. I was a latchkey kid of the 70s/80s and my male role models were WW2 vets. I can assure you none of them were very woke. Honorable, but not woke.

Youre entitled to your opinion, which all of this post is.

Im fine with the ad. I likely wouldn't even have seen the ad if conservatives didn't make a big ole hubbub about it.

Many men act exactly as depicted in the ad, and change is hard. Thus I give you the OP.
 
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