Girl sues parents. Says they owe her.

[PokerGuy]

A rare victory for common sense. :thumbsup:

I don't think it was much of a victory for common sense. Yes, denying 'emergency' relief was fine, but there is still the actual case, and there are still hearing scheduled around the question of whether she should be considered "emancipated" or not, and whether the parents should be made to pay for her stuff down the line. That's absurd. Bottom line, you're an adult, you need to pay for your own stuff. If your parents want to pay for stuff for you (like college), that's great, but they should not be obligated to do so, especially if you refuse to follow their rules.

 

[Axon]

There's some legal precedence in NY that anyone under 21 that is under the parent's sphere of influence is obligated to be supported by the parents. I wonder if the lawyers are playing this card.

That's precisely their argument. In NJ, there is no "age" of emancipation, though there probably should be. You become emancipated when you choose to leave.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

Is it me or do the parents seem so ready to flush their child down the drain? I guess they can afford to hire someone else to take care of them in their old age, or at least feel their own blood-kin will abuse them.

 

[Sho'Nuff]

friend's dad is paying for her legals fees? fishy.

If the friend's dad is a lawyer, might not be fishy. The dad could be taking the case on contingency. Meaning he gets paid when he wins. So . . . he might get 30% of the proceeds if he wins. Could be a nice payday.

Either way, he is smashing her.

 

[Sho'Nuff]

Last time I checked you had to be a grown up to file a law suit. Case dismissed.

You would be wrong.

 

[Sho'Nuff]

Maybe a legal expert can weigh in on this, but seeing as how her parents would have had to sign the contract for the private school, aren't they liable for the cost through the end of the contract (either semester or annual)? It does seem like it would be absurd that they could sign the documentation to get her into a private school but immediately stop payments when she turned 18, footing her with a bill she never signed a contract for... The college thing is a separate issue, as she presumably doesn't have a current contract with a higher education institution; if her parents don't want to pay that, let her take out loans like everyone else.

1. Depends on the contract

2. If the parties to the contract are the school and the parents, the kid doeds not have standing to enforce the contract.

3. Completely different cause of action.

 

[Markbnj]

Is it me or do the parents seem so ready to flush their child down the drain? I guess they can afford to hire someone else to take care of them in their old age, or at least feel their own blood-kin will abuse them.

On the contrary, what sort of life will she have if she continues with the world view she has now? Of course, she won't. Between the ages of 18 and, say, 25 she will basically become a different person. Eventually children have to learn that nobody in the wide world will put up with their shit the way their parents will. Ironically, the first people with an opportunity to teach this lesson are the parents.

 

[Genx87]

I don't think it was much of a victory for common sense. Yes, denying 'emergency' relief was fine, but there is still the actual case, and there are still hearing scheduled around the question of whether she should be considered "emancipated" or not, and whether the parents should be made to pay for her stuff down the line. That's absurd. Bottom line, you're an adult, you need to pay for your own stuff. If your parents want to pay for stuff for you (like college), that's great, but they should not be obligated to do so, especially if you refuse to follow their rules.

My guess is this hearing was not about the merits of the case. But only to determine if it were an emergency. Since it wasnt deemed an emergency the hearing to determine the merits of the case will go as planned. I'd assume if it were deemed an emergency this case could had been tossed out by now.

From what I heard the judge basically told the plantiffs to think about if they want to spend more money on losing this case.

 

[waggy]

Is it me or do the parents seem so ready to flush their child down the drain? I guess they can afford to hire someone else to take care of them in their old age, or at least feel their own blood-kin will abuse them.

i don't see it that way. the child refused to live by the rules of the house and moved out.

she is 18 and decided in that instant she was an adult and ready for the world. then reality hit her smack in the face.

The parents did the right thing. said fine you want to be an adult you pay your way. This is not a bad tactic and usually the kid realizes that real life sucks and go back and obey the rules..for the most part.

Then the idiot the girl moved in with a lawyer who started telling the girl she can sue and win (and he would make money). I mean really $600 a week allowance? and a $12k lawyer fee? so much bullshit. when family counseling would have worked wonders

I blame the lawyers more then i blame the girl and the parents.

 

[Tweak155]

i don't see it that way. the child refused to live by the rules of the house and moved out.

she is 18 and decided in that instant she was an adult and ready for the world. then reality hit her smack in the face.

Pretty much this. She thought oh I can get away with this and realized she couldn't when they instantly stopped paying for school.

Now all of a sudden it is emotional abuse. Lol.

 

[SSSnail]

Is it me or do the parents seem so ready to flush their child down the drain? I guess they can afford to hire someone else to take care of them in their old age, or at least feel their own blood-kin will abuse them.

You're very native, sorry I used the wrong term, FUCKING STUPID, if you think that brat will take care of her parents when they're older.

Sometimes, there's only one thing you can do with a turd.

 

[Axon]

My guess is this hearing was not about the merits of the case. But only to determine if it were an emergency. Since it wasnt deemed an emergency the hearing to determine the merits of the case will go as planned. I'd assume if it were deemed an emergency this case could had been tossed out by now.

From what I heard the judge basically told the plantiffs to think about if they want to spend more money on losing this case.

Yes, it was an order to show cause hearing. There will be another major hearing, but as to what kind of hearing it is, I am unsure. Perhaps a preliminary conference. And you are correct about your assessment. Though the Court must take this case "seriously," he can simply determine that the girl left home voluntarily and is therefore emancipated.

 

[highland145]

Speaking as the father of three girls aged 17 - 21, this is a losing battle, every time. Not that I actually had to deal with a boyfriend I disliked that much, but there have been a few friends over the years that we would have preferred not be around. You don't get to pick them. All you can do is hope you've taught the kids well enough that they eventually recognize idiots.

Something I watched recently, the farther acts like he loves the new bf at 1st site. Asks about his sports, shoes, etc....Bam, gone within a week.

 

[Markbnj]

You're very native, sorry I used the wrong term, FUCKING STUPID, if you think that brat will take care of her parents when they're older.

Sometimes, there's only one thing you can do with a turd.

Are you saying natives are stupid? Because that's harsh, man.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Small clip, judge issuing the smack down and be mindful of precident

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/v...bts-student-sues-parents-new-jersey.pool.html

 

[Hugo Drax]

Can the Parents of the Girl Sue that Attorney?

I could see what happened, she was this whitebread girl raised in an upper middle class environment who decided she wanted to date a thug to be a rebel.

There are tons of these Whitebread uppermiddle class girls who hook up with these thugs and the parents were passive about it, Girl ends up on the wrong side of the tracks, all strung out on drugs and sucking dick for a bag.

Good that they put their foot down right now instead of letting her hang with thuglife on their dime.

 

[Golgatha]

Maybe a legal expert can weigh in on this, but seeing as how her parents would have had to sign the contract for the private school, aren't they liable for the cost through the end of the contract (either semester or annual)? It does seem like it would be absurd that they could sign the documentation to get her into a private school but immediately stop payments when she turned 18, footing her with a bill she never signed a contract for... The college thing is a separate issue, as she presumably doesn't have a current contract with a higher education institution; if her parents don't want to pay that, let her take out loans like everyone else.

Good point. I would imagine there is a contract for private school tuition, etc. and she obviously can't sign as a minor.

 

[Train]

Is it me or do the parents seem so ready to flush their child down the drain?

It's just you.

Attempting to keep your kid from doing stupid and/or destructive shit (like drinking, dating jackasses, and ignoring curfew) is not bad parenting, it's GOOD parenting.

I have friends who had parents that let them do whatever they wanted in HS, no curfew, stay with friends whenever. Smoke, drink. A lot of them dropped out and later went back to get GED's. Every single one of them resents their parents for not giving them structure. Typically the parents were stoners or alcoholics themselves, and just stopped giving a shit about their kids. THOSE are the parents who "flushed their kids down the drains" not the ones doing what these parents are doing.

 

[Mai72]

Is it me or do the parents seem so ready to flush their child down the drain? I guess they can afford to hire someone else to take care of them in their old age, or at least feel their own blood-kin will abuse them.

This isn't Asia. When the parents get old they will probably be thrown into an old age home until death.

 

[Imp]

Can the Parents of the Girl Sue that Attorney?

I could see what happened, she was this whitebread girl raised in an upper middle class environment who decided she wanted to date a thug to be a rebel.

Hope they do sue back.

The girl's being a spoiled "kid". The lawyer guy giving her a home and financial funding for the lawsuit is the enabler of this entire "game".

And damn. Read on Dailymail that the two parents clear $250k to $300k. Nice... Unfortunately, that's probably why the lawyer is helping.

 

[monkeydelmagico]

Seems I've heard of child support possibly continuing beyond 18 if the child is in school. Hang on, my Google JD shows....

New Jersey Sec. 2A:34-23 states that parents have a duty to support their minor children. However, the court had jurisdiction to entertain a motion to modify the original judgment of divorce to award a payment of support and expenses of a child attending college even though the child had reached the age of majority. The court found that there is no fixed age when a child becomes emancipated. Wanner v. Litvak, 433 A.2d 445 (A.D. 1981).
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If we accept a mom getting an ex to pay child support beyond 18, it doesn't seem much of a stretch for the daughter to try to get it directly. I'm glad I'm not NJ.

Oh, and the obligatory....they may have cropped out the pointy elbows, but the overbite is clearly evident. Would not date.

Yep. In NJ you can be court mandated to pay way past 18. Wonder if this silver spooner is planning on a PhD?

 

[norseamd]

I bet you think that way and if you had kids would swear you shouldn't be responsible for their actions. This thread is a train wreck. So many parents saying they have no responsibility for their children.

baby boomers at their finest

 

[norseamd]

Is it me or do the parents seem so ready to flush their child down the drain? I guess they can afford to hire someone else to take care of them in their old age, or at least feel their own blood-kin will abuse them.

the kid looks like a brat. but the parents are likely not any better at all

 

[norseamd]

You would be wrong.

you likely have legal rights from when you are born. not sure why anyone would think someone under 18 has no legal rights to anything

 

[norseamd]

Are they not at 18, legal age to die for their country, vote, have children, pay taxes?...oops, hold on, they aren't allowed to drink yet though.. They are in many Western countries around the world.

which just shows the double standard of western countries or at least america. (more so america)

if you are considered a adult at 18 you should be considered old enough to drink. but old people can feel entitled and that everyone younger tahn them even at 25 or 30 or even older is immature. maturaty has nothing to do with age.