Girl sues parents. Says they owe her.

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Leros

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I heard some information about this on NPR.

Even though her parents refuse to pay for her college, she won't be eligible for financial aid due to her parent's income. Apparently having your parents refuse to fill out forms or refuse to contribute does not absolve your parents of being seen as responsible for your college tuition by the government.

The federal government and the schools consider it primarily the family's responsibility to pay for school. They provide financial assistance only when the family is unable to pay. If a family just doesn't want to pay, that won't make a difference. Parents have a greater responsibility toward their children than the government or the schools.

The US Department of Education has published guidance to financial aid administrators indicating that neither parent refusal to contribute to the student's education nor parent unwillingness to provide information on the student aid application or for verification is sufficient grounds for a dependency status override. This is true even if the parents do not claim the student as a dependent for income tax purposes or the student demonstrates total self-sufficiency. (See Dear Colleague Letter GEN-03-07 and page AVG-28 of the Application Verification Guide.)
Source: http://www.finaid.org/otheraid/parentsrefuse.phtml

Considering that the federal government considers it the family's responsibility to pay for college, I can see where it's not ridiculous to think she has a case.
 
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sactoking

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Considering that the federal government considers it the family's responsibility to pay for college, I can see where it's not ridiculous to think she has a case.

It's still ridiculous. Federal aid has always been predicated upon the parents' income until certain conditions are met (which I believe includes the student joining the military, reaching age 25, or being married and self-supporting). It's been that way for at least 20 years, nothing makes this girl or her situation special.

Hell, I knew several people in college with marriage pacts. Typically two people would get married and one would join the military while the other went to college. The person in the military got married pay and the person in college got emancipated from their parents for purposes of the FAFSA and qualified for all sorts of Pell Grants and Cal Grants and whatnot. After a set time, 4 or 5 years usually, they amicably separated.
 

Sho'Nuff

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Good point. I would imagine there is a contract for private school tuition, etc. and she obviously can't sign as a minor.

Yes she can. Its just that most contracts with minors can be repudiated by the minor.

Hence why car dealerships do not sell financed cars to minors without an adult co signing the loan.
 

TwiceOver

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You can also have the parents sign a document saying they are not helping out. I had to do that for my FAFSA. And again, that is for FAFSA. She could get student loans, albeit at a high rate, with another company. She has entitlement issues. "I want all of this, but I don't want to have any conditions to get all of that". Typical American kid these days...

And yes, bangin' the dad.
 

Vdubchaos

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How in the world can this even be a lawsuit? Only in America.

If I was her parent I would cut her off completely and kick her ass out on the street.

Learn the hard way....
 

Sunburn74

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I heard some information about this on NPR.

Even though her parents refuse to pay for her college, she won't be eligible for financial aid due to her parent's income. Apparently having your parents refuse to fill out forms or refuse to contribute does not absolve your parents of being seen as responsible for your college tuition by the government.


Source: http://www.finaid.org/otheraid/parentsrefuse.phtml

Considering that the federal government considers it the family's responsibility to pay for college, I can see where it's not ridiculous to think she has a case.

She has no case. If she wants to be considered a dependent for fafsa purposes there are many things she can do. One is she can file for legal emancipation. Two she can have her high school state that she is at risk for homelessness. Thirdly she can simple file the fafsa under special circumstances where technically you're still a dependent but you're parents income is irrelevant to your financial aid status. Special circumstances include parental incarceration for example but also include voluntary leaving of an abusive home. All of these things will allow her to file for financial aid without her parents income mattering

http://studentaid.ed.gov/fafsa/filling-out/dependency#no-parent-support
 

alkemyst

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Sounds just about right. The problem is when you have parents in that bracket, they do want to raise their kids in a way that they do not have to work for anything. Everything they want is given to them, handed on a silver platter.

Typically the parents are too busy to spend too much time with the kid, would not place any kind of discipline on the kid and "Buy" the child's love by giving them what they want and trying to be a friend instead of a parent.

You end up with a self entitled person who never had to work for anything in their life and expect the world to cater to them, big egos and narcissistic personality disorder etc..

I bet she chose the nastiest thug she can find to make waves.

Not true....many parents do set very high levels they want their kids to grow up in. Much of it is future profit.

The family is definitely disfunctional IMHO.

A better example is the John Goodman crowd favorite here.

Those two parents in that legal battle are also battling it out in divorce court so much that judges have told them to step down.

Apparently this chick was subjected to a dad that wanted to fuck her and a mom that wanted to live vicariously through her.
 

alkemyst

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She has no case. If she wants to be considered a dependent for fafsa purposes there are many things she can do. One is she can file for legal emancipation. Two she can have her high school state that she is at risk for homelessness. Thirdly she can simple file the fafsa under special circumstances where technically you're still a dependent but you're parents income is irrelevant to your financial aid status. Special circumstances include parental incarceration for example but also include voluntary leaving of an abusive home. All of these things will allow her to file for financial aid without her parents income mattering

http://studentaid.ed.gov/fafsa/filling-out/dependency#no-parent-support

An orphan at age 18 needs more than that though. You do realize due to the economy many on assistance are kicked out of support at 18.
 

SolMiester

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Dec 19, 2004
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I think its a bit rough stating the family is dysfunctional, when it appears to me the major dysfunction of this group is the teenager not willing to accept rules of the house.
She keeps embarrassing them and is now spewing filth at them on facebook....unpharking believable...

There is no way this little witch deserves any support....
 

norseamd

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I think its a bit rough stating the family is dysfunctional, when it appears to me the major dysfunction of this group is the teenager not willing to accept rules of the house. She keeps embarrassing them and is now spewing filth at them on facebook....unpharking believable... There is no way this little witch deserves any support....

that was apparantly not her

if you decided to look if that was true or not you might have found out
 

SSSnail

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that was apparantly not her

if you decided to look if that was true or not you might have found out
Based on what, the link to that article on that one website you sent? lol. BTW, those links are almost plagiarism of something else that was posted long before you did. I'm still deciding whether you're a shill for that website, or you're on the plaintiff's camp.
 

norseamd

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Based on what, the link to that article on that one website you sent? lol. BTW, those links are almost plagiarism of something else that was posted long before you did. I'm still deciding whether you're a shill for that website, or you're on the plaintiff's camp.

so suddenly rich people are good and all just because they are parents?

not on any side

just pissed off that people are jumping to one side only
 

SSSnail

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so suddenly rich people are good and all just because they are parents?

not on any side

just pissed off that people are jumping to one side only
It's not suddenly, it's based on probabilities, and what is most likely the truth from all available information. And the parents aren't rich, they're just doing better than most, but not rich. I have no doubt that they spent a small fortune on her raising her to 18, still not enough to the spoiled brat, apparently.

There might be outliers, but if you consider all evidence available in front of you, chances are, most people that sided with the parents are right. Even her stupid claims against her parents are laughable.
 
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