Girl Suing Former Virginia Tech QB For $6.3 Million

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Originally posted by: Turin39789
Check ID if you are going to have a casual encounter with a stranger FTW.

Yeah, that's really going to get the mood going.

"Excuse me, but even though we met in a club where you have to be 21 to enter, and you're a cabaret dancer, which I'm pretty sure necessitates being the age of majority, I'm going to have to see some ID before you take off any more clothing."

- M4H
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: meltdown75
$6.3 mil? Is that all?

So if she wins, she'll probably never have to work a day in her entire life.

Not bad for putting out a little bit of poon.

Exactly. It's not even like she had his kid. She just put her ankles behind her head and saw dollar signs.

- M4H

But the problem is, Marcus Vick was undrafted. I'm sure his Miami Dolphin contract isn't exactly flourishing

He makes the league minimum which is $260,000 for a first year player. However, you're forgetting about the gazillions his brother has.

And I'm sure he's not the only member of the football team she gave it up to. The more guys she puts out with, the better her odds of striking it rich.

- M4H



You mean she was raped by several team members?

No she was groupie who lied about her age and misrepresented herself in order to position herself for potential financial windfall down the line.

Thats what I'm thinking. Nowadays its so hard to tell with girls. They can look 18 and actually be 13.

I find it incredible that everyone seems to take the girls side so far in this thread. The power that women have, in any situation and at any age is simply amazing to me.

I'm not rushing to the defense of this girl. I'm basing my opinion of this situation on Baby Vick's history.
 

AMDZen

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Originally posted by: Turin39789
The power they have? She forced him to have sex with her?

Check ID if you are going to have a casual encounter with a stranger FTW.

Nobody forced anybody, thats the point. She was with him for TWO YEARS. Its not like he raped her.

And Yea thats what its come down to, you have to check IDs. I think thats sad, and I think America's age of consent laws are sad on the same level as legal drinking age. Canada has it right in my mind, in fact - the rest of the 1st world countries have it right.
 

Turin39789

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Check ID if you are going to have a casual encounter with a stranger FTW.

Yeah, that's really going to get the mood going.

"Excuse me, but even though we met in a club where you have to be 21 to enter, and you're a cabaret dancer, which I'm pretty sure necessitates being the age of majority, I'm going to have to see some ID before you take off any more clothing."

- M4H

I missed the part of the article where it said he picked her up at an over 21 venue.

I just read

"Vick and two of his former teammates at Tech were convicted in 2004 of three counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor for giving three underage girls liquor and encouraging them to strip.

Vick confessed to police that he had consensual sex with one of the girls. The girl who allegedly had sex with Vick invoked her Fifth Amendment rights at the trial.

In the lawsuit, the girl identifies herself as the one who had sex with Vick on that night in January 2004 that led to his arrest and conviction.

After an appeal, Vick pleaded no contest in September 2004 to one count of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. He was ordered to have no contact with the teenagers in the case.
"
 

Turin39789

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Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Turin39789
The power they have? She forced him to have sex with her?

Check ID if you are going to have a casual encounter with a stranger FTW.

Nobody forced anybody, thats the point. She was with him for TWO YEARS. Its not like he raped her.

And Yea thats what its come down to, you have to check IDs. I think thats sad, and I think America's age of consent laws are sad on the same level as legal drinking age. Canada has it right in my mind, in fact - the rest of the 1st world countries have it right.

A 15 year old does not have the decision making abilities that an adult does.
 

jlbenedict

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The kicker is, this incident was almost 3 yrs ago, when she slept with him.

I guess when you make it big, a statute of limitations doesn't exist anymore. I'm not in defense of Baby Vick or the girl, but damn... the plaintiff's counsel claims "she suffers psychological trauma" to this day..

Yeah.. bull$hit! More like, the girl is counting dollar signs instead of sheep, when she sleeps at night. "Cha ching.. cha ching.. "



 

forfor

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Originally posted by: Spoon
Originally posted by: forfor
As a VT alum, I hope she wins.

Oh by the way, that area (Blacksburg, Christiansburg & Radford) is a sh!thole. I highly suggest anyone considering to attend VT to think twice, unless you like to watch rednecks unzip their pants and jerk off at traffic lights.

Wow, your exactly the reason why I left nothern virginia is the first place. I've lived is this sh!thole since '89 and don't see myself leaving anytime soon. Sure for nine months out of the year its pretty bad but for the three months that all the pretenchous, self absorbed @ssholes like your run home to suckle on daddy's pole for that new ride its actually a very pleasant place to live.

Oh and yes that last part was a little harsh but after all you were the one watching the rednecks jacking off at the stop lights so I figured it was you thang!

Ummm, I'm sorry that I hurt your feelings but that was my experience during my 4 years (back in late 90s). It may have changed by now but not likely...

I also don't understand how you've come to the conclusion that I like to suck on my daddy's pole for that new ride as I went to Virginia Tech, a public school with lower tuition & fees than the national average...

Oh well.
 

yowolabi

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If the law decided to prosecute, that's one thing, but I don't think this girl should get any money.

What was Vick when she was 15? Most likely he was 18 or 19. She was definitely an active participant at the time, and is no more hurt than and of the millions of other girls that have sex before they're 18. I would also bet that she came to Virginia Tech and tried to get with him, versus him trolling the high school halls.
 

MaxDepth

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Originally posted by: forfor
As a VT alum, I hope she wins.

Oh by the way, that area (Blacksburg, Christiansburg & Radford) is a sh!thole. I highly suggest anyone considering to attend VT to think twice, unless you like to watch rednecks unzip their pants and jerk off at traffic lights.
But the women at Radford are so hot!


 

forfor

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Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: forfor
As a VT alum, I hope she wins.

Oh by the way, that area (Blacksburg, Christiansburg & Radford) is a sh!thole. I highly suggest anyone considering to attend VT to think twice, unless you like to watch rednecks unzip their pants and jerk off at traffic lights.

you're a tool, Blacksburg is absolutely gorgeous. I lived there for 4 years, and met some of the nicest people in that area... you're a moron.

yea, k, alumni pride! gooohoooh, ooptie buddha dumba lie!
 
Jan 31, 2002
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Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Check ID if you are going to have a casual encounter with a stranger FTW.

Yeah, that's really going to get the mood going.

"Excuse me, but even though we met in a club where you have to be 21 to enter, and you're a cabaret dancer, which I'm pretty sure necessitates being the age of majority, I'm going to have to see some ID before you take off any more clothing."

- M4H

I missed the part of the article where it said he picked her up at an over 21 venue.

I just read

"Vick and two of his former teammates at Tech were convicted in 2004 of three counts of contributing to the delinquency of a minor for giving three underage girls liquor and encouraging them to strip.

Vick confessed to police that he had consensual sex with one of the girls. The girl who allegedly had sex with Vick invoked her Fifth Amendment rights at the trial.

In the lawsuit, the girl identifies herself as the one who had sex with Vick on that night in January 2004 that led to his arrest and conviction.

After an appeal, Vick pleaded no contest in September 2004 to one count of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. He was ordered to have no contact with the teenagers in the case.
"

Because the post of yours that I quoted only applies to this story and not to casual encounters in general. :roll:

Also, delinquency of a minor != rape.

- M4H
 
Jan 31, 2002
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Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Turin39789
The power they have? She forced him to have sex with her?

Check ID if you are going to have a casual encounter with a stranger FTW.

Nobody forced anybody, thats the point. She was with him for TWO YEARS. Its not like he raped her.

And Yea thats what its come down to, you have to check IDs. I think thats sad, and I think America's age of consent laws are sad on the same level as legal drinking age. Canada has it right in my mind, in fact - the rest of the 1st world countries have it right.

A 15 year old does not have the decision making abilities that an adult does.

I'm going to guess you either never got laid in high school, or are still a virgin now.

- M4H
 

Turin39789

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Nov 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Turin39789
The power they have? She forced him to have sex with her?

Check ID if you are going to have a casual encounter with a stranger FTW.

Nobody forced anybody, thats the point. She was with him for TWO YEARS. Its not like he raped her.

And Yea thats what its come down to, you have to check IDs. I think thats sad, and I think America's age of consent laws are sad on the same level as legal drinking age. Canada has it right in my mind, in fact - the rest of the 1st world countries have it right.

A 15 year old does not have the decision making abilities that an adult does.

I'm going to guess you either never got laid in high school, or are still a virgin now.

- M4H


Negatory!
 

UMfanatic

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ok First of all she would have to prove this, basically anyone could go and say he did this to them, second of all there is no claim or rape or unwillingness, she basically sees him as a cash cow, it happened to Kobe, if he was nobody working in a walmart we whould even hear about this, the burden of proof is where it all lies, regardless of his shady past
 
Jan 31, 2002
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Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Turin39789
The power they have? She forced him to have sex with her?

Check ID if you are going to have a casual encounter with a stranger FTW.

Nobody forced anybody, thats the point. She was with him for TWO YEARS. Its not like he raped her.

And Yea thats what its come down to, you have to check IDs. I think thats sad, and I think America's age of consent laws are sad on the same level as legal drinking age. Canada has it right in my mind, in fact - the rest of the 1st world countries have it right.

A 15 year old does not have the decision making abilities that an adult does.

I'm going to guess you either never got laid in high school, or are still a virgin now.

- M4H


Negatory!

Then how in the holy hell can you say that a 15-year-old doesn't have the decision making capabilities to decide whether or not she's going to have consensual sex with someone? Did you bang your teacher, or just get a handjob from Jose the janitor?

- M4H
 

Turin39789

Lifer
Nov 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: UMfanatic
ok First of all she would have to prove this, basically anyone could go and say he did this to them, second of all there is no claim or rape or unwillingness, she basically sees him as a cash cow, it happened to Kobe, if he was nobody working in a walmart we whould even hear about this, the burden of proof is where it all lies, regardless of his shady past

While I do agree that we wouldn't be hearing about this if he were working at walmart and the she also probably wouldnt be bringing this case if that were the case, He has previously admitted to having sex with her and was convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a minor for it. She might still have to prove that the first time was at 15 though.
 

Turin39789

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Nov 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Turin39789
The power they have? She forced him to have sex with her?

Check ID if you are going to have a casual encounter with a stranger FTW.

Nobody forced anybody, thats the point. She was with him for TWO YEARS. Its not like he raped her.

And Yea thats what its come down to, you have to check IDs. I think thats sad, and I think America's age of consent laws are sad on the same level as legal drinking age. Canada has it right in my mind, in fact - the rest of the 1st world countries have it right.

A 15 year old does not have the decision making abilities that an adult does.

I'm going to guess you either never got laid in high school, or are still a virgin now.

- M4H


Negatory!

Then how in the holy hell can you say that a 15-year-old doesn't have the decision making capabilities to decide whether or not she's going to have consensual sex with someone? Did you bang your teacher, or just get a handjob from Jose the janitor?

- M4H


I remember what I thought when I was 15.


How old are you? Have you spent more than 10 minutes with a 15 year old girl recently? Trusted one with any important decisions?
 

AMDZen

Lifer
Apr 15, 2004
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Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Turin39789
The power they have? She forced him to have sex with her?

Check ID if you are going to have a casual encounter with a stranger FTW.

Nobody forced anybody, thats the point. She was with him for TWO YEARS. Its not like he raped her.

And Yea thats what its come down to, you have to check IDs. I think thats sad, and I think America's age of consent laws are sad on the same level as legal drinking age. Canada has it right in my mind, in fact - the rest of the 1st world countries have it right.

A 15 year old does not have the decision making abilities that an adult does.

And I say they do, we have a difference of opinion. As I already indicated, much more then half of the entire world agrees with me, so I can assure you that there are more people who share my opinion
 

Turin39789

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Nov 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Turin39789
The power they have? She forced him to have sex with her?

Check ID if you are going to have a casual encounter with a stranger FTW.

Nobody forced anybody, thats the point. She was with him for TWO YEARS. Its not like he raped her.

And Yea thats what its come down to, you have to check IDs. I think thats sad, and I think America's age of consent laws are sad on the same level as legal drinking age. Canada has it right in my mind, in fact - the rest of the 1st world countries have it right.

A 15 year old does not have the decision making abilities that an adult does.

And I say they do, we have a difference of opinion. As I already indicated, much more then half of the entire world agrees with me, so I can assure you that there are more people who share my opinion


The law doesn't. The law owns more guns than I do.
 

AMDZen

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Apr 15, 2004
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Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Turin39789
The power they have? She forced him to have sex with her?

Check ID if you are going to have a casual encounter with a stranger FTW.

Nobody forced anybody, thats the point. She was with him for TWO YEARS. Its not like he raped her.

And Yea thats what its come down to, you have to check IDs. I think thats sad, and I think America's age of consent laws are sad on the same level as legal drinking age. Canada has it right in my mind, in fact - the rest of the 1st world countries have it right.

A 15 year old does not have the decision making abilities that an adult does.

And I say they do, we have a difference of opinion. As I already indicated, much more then half of the entire world agrees with me, so I can assure you that there are more people who share my opinion


The law doesn't. The law owns more guns than I do.

Actually, since Vicks age wasn't given when he initially had sexual contact with this 15 yo, the fact that I don't personally know the state laws for virginia AOC, and last but not least the fact that it said NO WHERE that any laws were broken, your only assuming that there were laws broken. Each state differs but there are states where if he was 19 and she was 15 it was perfectly legal.

Besides, the law isn't always right just because its the law. Some laws need to be changed
 

jlbenedict

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Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Turin39789
The power they have? She forced him to have sex with her?

Check ID if you are going to have a casual encounter with a stranger FTW.

Nobody forced anybody, thats the point. She was with him for TWO YEARS. Its not like he raped her.

And Yea thats what its come down to, you have to check IDs. I think thats sad, and I think America's age of consent laws are sad on the same level as legal drinking age. Canada has it right in my mind, in fact - the rest of the 1st world countries have it right.

A 15 year old does not have the decision making abilities that an adult does.

And I say they do, we have a difference of opinion. As I already indicated, much more then half of the entire world agrees with me, so I can assure you that there are more people who share my opinion


The law doesn't. The law owns more guns than I do.

Actually, since Vicks age wasn't given when he initially had sexual contact with this 15 yo, the fact that I don't personally know the state laws for virginia AOC, and last but not least the fact that it said NO WHERE that any laws were broken, your only assuming that there were laws broken. Each state differs but there are states where if he was 19 and she was 15 it was perfectly legal.

Besides, the law isn't always right just because its the law. Some laws need to be changed


Just went back and read the article again... it mentions Marcus Vick is 22.. so, he would have been 19 (or 20... not sure of his b-day)

Edit:

A quick check on Yahoo NFL sports and the Miami depth chart shows he was Born: Mar 20, 1984.

A January 2004 sex incident would have had him three months shy of being 20.

 

Turin39789

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Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Turin39789
The power they have? She forced him to have sex with her?

Check ID if you are going to have a casual encounter with a stranger FTW.

Nobody forced anybody, thats the point. She was with him for TWO YEARS. Its not like he raped her.

And Yea thats what its come down to, you have to check IDs. I think thats sad, and I think America's age of consent laws are sad on the same level as legal drinking age. Canada has it right in my mind, in fact - the rest of the 1st world countries have it right.

A 15 year old does not have the decision making abilities that an adult does.

And I say they do, we have a difference of opinion. As I already indicated, much more then half of the entire world agrees with me, so I can assure you that there are more people who share my opinion


The law doesn't. The law owns more guns than I do.

Actually, since Vicks age wasn't given when he initially had sexual contact with this 15 yo, the fact that I don't personally know the state laws for virginia AOC, and last but not least the fact that it said NO WHERE that any laws were broken, your only assuming that there were laws broken. Each state differs but there are states where if he was 19 and she was 15 it was perfectly legal.

Besides, the law isn't always right just because its the law. Some laws need to be changed


Already looked it up - http://www.vahealth.org/civp/sexualviolence/varapelaws/laws_rape.asp

"The first statute deals with carnal knowledge of a child between thirteen and fifteen years of age. Therefore, if you are 18 years of age or older and have sex with a 13 or 14 year old minor, that is a Class 4 felony and punishable by 2-10 yrs and up to $100,000 fine.

The second statute deals with someone 18 years of age or older having sex with someone age 15, 16, or 17 years of age, which is a class one misdemeanor and punishable with up to one year in jail and a $2,500.00 fine."

If he is 22 now that means he was 19 or 20 then, he was obviously over 18 if he was a college football player.

And unless you plan on armed revolution and smashing the state, you need to have the laws changed BEFORE you do something against them unless you are willing to do the time. Just because you think it's ok to have sex with a 15 year old doesnt make it legal. Just because you think you can smoke pot walking down the sidewalk doesn't mean you aren't going to get busted.
 

jlbenedict

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Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Turin39789
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Turin39789
The power they have? She forced him to have sex with her?

Check ID if you are going to have a casual encounter with a stranger FTW.

Nobody forced anybody, thats the point. She was with him for TWO YEARS. Its not like he raped her.

And Yea thats what its come down to, you have to check IDs. I think thats sad, and I think America's age of consent laws are sad on the same level as legal drinking age. Canada has it right in my mind, in fact - the rest of the 1st world countries have it right.

A 15 year old does not have the decision making abilities that an adult does.

And I say they do, we have a difference of opinion. As I already indicated, much more then half of the entire world agrees with me, so I can assure you that there are more people who share my opinion


The law doesn't. The law owns more guns than I do.

Actually, since Vicks age wasn't given when he initially had sexual contact with this 15 yo, the fact that I don't personally know the state laws for virginia AOC, and last but not least the fact that it said NO WHERE that any laws were broken, your only assuming that there were laws broken. Each state differs but there are states where if he was 19 and she was 15 it was perfectly legal.

Besides, the law isn't always right just because its the law. Some laws need to be changed


Already looked it up - http://www.vahealth.org/civp/sexualviolence/varapelaws/laws_rape.asp

"The first statute deals with carnal knowledge of a child between thirteen and fifteen years of age. Therefore, if you are 18 years of age or older and have sex with a 13 or 14 year old minor, that is a Class 4 felony and punishable by 2-10 yrs and up to $100,000 fine.

The second statute deals with someone 18 years of age or older having sex with someone age 15, 16, or 17 years of age, which is a class one misdemeanor and punishable with up to one year in jail and a $2,500.00 fine."

If he is 22 now that means he was 19 or 20 then, he was obviously over 18 if he was a college football player.

And unless you plan on armed revolution and smashing the state, you need to have the laws changed BEFORE you do something against them unless you are willing to do the time. Just because you think it's ok to have sex with a 15 year old doesnt make it legal. Just because you think you can smoke pot walking down the sidewalk doesn't mean you aren't going to get busted.


Born: Mar 20, 1984
He was 19 at the time then.

 
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Originally posted by: Turin39789
I remember what I thought when I was 15.
So do I. I think it went a little like this (NSFW for language)

How old are you?
23.

Have you spent more than 10 minutes with a 15 year old girl recently?
I have younger sisters, and I'm going through 15-year-old sibling #2 right now. Before asking for pics, please keep in mind that I have a short temper, a shovel, and a large soybean field near my house.

Trusted one with any important decisions?
No, but the decision to have sex isn't mine to make for her. I may not agree with it, and I definitely don't like it, but I can't change the fact that she's aware of such activity and ... it kills me to write this as an older brother ... may be interested in it. (Hey, I accepted it with Younger Sibling #1 when she turned 20, I'm under no obligation to do the same for #2 yet.)

I can certainly curb the interest of any male suitors though. <Vin Diesel> You break her heart, I break your neck. </Vin Diesel>

- M4H
 

AMDZen

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Originally posted by: Turin39789
Just because you think you can smoke pot walking down the sidewalk doesn't mean you aren't going to get busted.

I do it all the time, haven't been busted yet
 
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