girlfriends son was gunned down today

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kranky

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Oct 9, 1999
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Condolences, OP. What a senseless tragedy.

I echo jlee's comment that if the OP decides to go, ATOT will step up.
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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This is so sad and horrible.

dawp, talk to your boss, he or she will likely grant you funeral leave for your girlfriend losing her son, assuming you are in a long term stable relationship. If its not official company policy, they may only offer unpaid leave, but, all you need to do is panhandle a bit in ATOT and you will be ok.

As far as funding goes, I'm light on cash, but I will commit to chipping in $20 if it will help to get you there.
 

dawp

Lifer
Jul 2, 2005
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There is a Go Fund Me to raise money for his son, not sure if linking is allowed but it's under his name, Carl Wilson. It says funeral but she didn't post it, a friend of hers did and that's why it's light on information.
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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I'm in for a donation as well. LMK. Bunch of thugs, 7 of them to 1 and they needed a gun? Cowards, and I hope the rest get charged as accomplices.
 

JulesMaximus

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Jul 3, 2003
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So sorry to hear that... one of my best friend's lost his son 2 years ago at the age of 14. It is unbelievable the amount of grief he has gone through. I don't think it is something you ever recover from completely.

You and your GF have my deepest sympathies. :'(

You should be there for your GF. If you are at all close and care for her she will need you now more than ever.
 
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SlitheryDee

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Feb 2, 2005
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She's having problems from the father's side of the family. A father who rarely saw his kids. She said she will be moving up here after it's all said and done and not to come down there.

I kept thinking about this post for a while and I think this is probably one of those times when you don't take someone at their word. She'll say a lot of stuff she doesn't really mean right now. Regardless of what she told you about coming down there, chances are if you do go down there, all she'll be is grateful. In fact, I'd bet that one of the big things she'll remember about this time later on is whether you were there or not.

This is something I wouldn't have understood just a few years ago. I tend to take people very literally, and in your shoes I would probably have just thought she meant exactly what she said not that long ago. I know differently now.

The only thing that could change things in my mind is the nature of your relationship with her. If it's a serious and committed relationship, then you go. If it's not that serious, then maybe you stay. That might be a seemingly uncompromising way to put it, but I'm trying to view this through the lens of a mother who has lost her child. This is likely the worst thing that ever has or ever will happen to her. The people she cares about the most should be around her now.
 
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SearchMaster

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Jun 6, 2002
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I kept thinking about this post for a while and I think this is probably one of those times when you don't take someone at their word. She'll say a lot of stuff she doesn't really mean right now. Regardless of what she told you about coming down there, chances are if you do go down there, all she'll be is grateful. In fact, I'd bet that one of the big things she'll remember about this time later on is whether you were there or not.

This is something I wouldn't have understood just a few years ago. I tend to take people very literally, and in your shoes I would probably have just thought she meant exactly what she said not that long ago. I know differently now.

The only thing that could change things in my mind is the nature of your relationship with her. If it's a serious and committed relationship, then you go. If it's not that serious, then maybe you stay. That might be a seemingly uncompromising way to put it, but I'm trying to view this through the lens of a mother who has lost her child. This is likely the worst thing that ever has or ever will happen to her. The people she cares about the most should be around her now.

This....

My (now) wife's father died a few months into our relationship, and was buried several states away. I'd never met him, and he was kind of a POS anyway, and it just so happened to be right in the middle of the busiest time possible for me (I was working 70+ hours a week). She insisted that I stay home as she had a lot of family going and wouldn't be alone.

She held it against me for years.

Just go. It will mean a lot to her.
 

BeeBoop

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Feb 5, 2013
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How come every article I read about this has no mention of his parents? It seems like he was living on his own taking care of the baby. Is the mother involved in his life? I've only seen mentions of his cousin and grandmother.
 
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SKORPI0

Lifer
Jan 18, 2000
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There is a Go Fund Me to raise money for his son, not sure if linking is allowed but it's under his name, Carl Wilson. It says funeral but she didn't post it, a friend of hers did and that's why it's light on information.
In this case, it's for a good cause. You'll spend at least $12K for a decent funeral/burial.
Note-- This may be a person not connected to the family/contributing and taking advantage of the situation, beware!!!
Link -- deleted..
 
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Puppies04

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Quote with fake link deleted.

Looks fake IMHO and the comments seem to point in that direction as well. Someone has already had a refund after doing a little digging.

You light want to delete that link SKORPIO...
 
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amicold

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Feb 7, 2005
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How come every article I read about this has no mention of his parents? It seems like he was living on his own taking care of the baby. Is the mother involved in his life? I've only seen mentions of his cousin and grandmother.

Not my business to be speculating but I found an article that referenced his legal guardian...perhaps she is OPs lady and views him as her son.
 

Belegost

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Feb 20, 2001
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I kept thinking about this post for a while and I think this is probably one of those times when you don't take someone at their word. She'll say a lot of stuff she doesn't really mean right now. Regardless of what she told you about coming down there, chances are if you do go down there, all she'll be is grateful. In fact, I'd bet that one of the big things she'll remember about this time later on is whether you were there or not.

This is something I wouldn't have understood just a few years ago. I tend to take people very literally, and in your shoes I would probably have just thought she meant exactly what she said not that long ago. I know differently now.

The only thing that could change things in my mind is the nature of your relationship with her. If it's a serious and committed relationship, then you go. If it's not that serious, then maybe you stay. That might be a seemingly uncompromising way to put it, but I'm trying to view this through the lens of a mother who has lost her child. This is likely the worst thing that ever has or ever will happen to her. The people she cares about the most should be around her now.
Very much this, I really hope dawp seriously reconsiders going, this is a time to be there for support.
 

Blitzvogel

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Oct 17, 2010
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This....

My (now) wife's father died a few months into our relationship, and was buried several states away. I'd never met him, and he was kind of a POS anyway, and it just so happened to be right in the middle of the busiest time possible for me (I was working 70+ hours a week). She insisted that I stay home as she had a lot of family going and wouldn't be alone.

She held it against me for years.

Just go. It will mean a lot to her.

Goddamn, why do people play such stupid verbal games.
 

SlitheryDee

Lifer
Feb 2, 2005
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Goddamn, why do people play such stupid verbal games.

It's more like she's so overloaded with stress and grief that she's on autopilot. Her mouth moves and sounds come out, but they may not be connected with what she's feeling. When faced with the concept of asking her boyfriend to come down and be with her she's forced to consider all the things that's doing to him. He has to get time off from work, pay for a ticket, go to an unfamiliar place, and generally be inconvenienced by the whole affair. Taking responsibility for that inconvenience by flat out asking him to come adds a bit of guilt to a load of stress that she's probably already almost breaking under. It's just easier for her to default to "no" in the short term without even considering that when the grief subsides a bit, she's going to look back and resent him for doing what she said to do. That's why you have to take the decision out of her hands by just saying "I'm coming" in an unreserved and definite fashion, and heading out. Even if you have reservations about going, you might as well make it seem like you're mind is firmly made up and nothing in the world would stop you from being there for her. It relieves her of the responsibility for your actions and allows her to accept your help without qualms.
 

purbeast0

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Sep 13, 2001
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glad they got the shooter.

but it also sounds like he was a loser with the friends he hung around. not a reason to lose life though.
 
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