Give Trump a chance

[UglyCasanova]

I get a podcast called Intelligence Squared US Debates which is in an Oxford debate format and they cover various topics. The question posed on the one I just listened to was "should Trump be given a chance?". Straightforward topic but an interesting discussion and debate.

You can listen to it here (or I did on my phone with the podcast app): http://www.intelligencesquaredus.org


The British guy imo made the best points. He was very anti-Trump but argued that since Trump won the election then we should give not only the president but those who voted for him the chance to succeed or fail on his own merits. The opposing side basically argued that he has been given a chance already (which is a fair point to make) and now is the time to oppose, protect, act, etc.

Anywhom not a good summary so if you are bored and needing something to listen to it's a quality program (could be wrong but I think NPR hosts it). The other debates on there are great too.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

no

 

[IronWing]

He's already failed on his own merits. He's a disgrace and should resign. He's a loser all the way through.

 

[MongGrel]

Seems more BBC oriented.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_Squared

Trump has already screwed up so badly out of the blocks is is pathetic.

 

[Younigue]

I agree. It took me a couple of days after his inauguration to even understand why I was so upset and annoyed with all these people saying he should be given a chance. I arrived to this same conclusion.

He showed with gusto during his campaign that any chance he was given he would shat upon it and never once gave the impression that as President he would do anything different. IMO, he's even worse than I anticipated. That's saying something because I had no faith in him. Always a stunner when I'm already at zero that people can still surprise me.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Give him a chance...I think that's what I have been trying to do. Do I really have a choice. Remember, some of us really didn't pay attention to Donald Trump before this election. I really didn't know what kind of person he was. So far, over the last year, Can't say I like what I see.

 

[UberNeuman]

No time for regrets, OP. The blood is on your hands.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I appreciate the irony since Hillary lost due to ties with big business so, instead, we voted bigly business in. At what point do Republicans say, this administration is just stupid, next!

 

[sdifox]

He has been given a chance and he bombed bigly.

 

[First]

I think people have just naturally resisted him as each ridiculous, poorly thought out amateur-hour policy has been EO'ed through. So "giving him a chance" really is pretty vague; he is a (terrible) POTUS, so he has the power to do good. Will he? Well, so far, zero.

 

[MajinCry]

I don't think a guy that praises a sex slaver should be without surveillance, let alone be given the highest position in the world's most jingoist country.

Even playing President Eden's voice files at random would give a better result than Trump.

 

[Bitek]

A chance do to what exactly? Fuck everything up?

I'd rather shut it all down

 

[UglyCasanova]

A chance do to what exactly? Fuck everything up?

I'd rather shut it all down

Shutting it all down is why he got elected, drain the swamp etc.

 

[UglyCasanova]

I appreciate the irony since Hillary lost due to ties with big business so, instead, we voted bigly business in. At what point do Republicans say, this administration is just stupid, next!

Hillary lost for a myriad of reasons, not just ties to big business.

 

[sandorski]

Won't somebody please think of the Man Children?

 

[WelshBloke]

He has been given a chance hasn't he? He's the President. He has a republican house and senate behind him.
How much more of a chance does he need? Any fuck ups are his to own.

 

[senseamp]

He was given a chance. He blew it, first week.
http://www.pollingreport.com/djt_job1.htm

 

[PottedMeat]

i was hoping pence would shove his arm up trumps ass as soon as they went into office and put some goddamn self control into the POTUS, but nope, it's all crazy all the time.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

i was hoping pence would shove his arm up trumps ass as soon as they went into office and put some goddamn self control into the POTUS, but nope, it's all crazy all the time.

You're looking for pence to show some sense? Bwahahahahahahaha!

 

[Capt Caveman]

Shutting it all down is why he got elected, drain the swamp etc.

And he's filled the swamp back up with unqualified big donors and interests. He's been President for a couple of weeks and has already insulted multiple allies, pressing to start wars while kissing Russia's ass. No need for a cold war as we've lost to Russia without even a fight.

 

[Jhhnn]

From the beginning I thought the idea of Trump as President was an absurdity. So far, he exceeds expectations in that regard & will likely continue to do so.

We're through the looking glass, living in a post-truth episode of the Twilight Zone.

 

[Jhhnn]

i was hoping pence would shove his arm up trumps ass as soon as they went into office and put some goddamn self control into the POTUS, but nope, it's all crazy all the time.

Why would he do that? Pence is a snake. If Trump blows it badly enough he'll be President.

 

[FIVR]

Trump is retarded and a Russian puppet.....


No, I don't think I'll "give him a chance". He can F off back to his apartment in queens to tweet his vascular dementia-addled observations in his gilded bathroom.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Trump is retarded and a Russian puppet.....


No, I don't think I'll "give him a chance". He can F off back to his apartment in queens to tweet his vascular dementia-addled observations in his gilded bathroom.

yea, but how do you REALLY feel

 

[sdifox]

Cue ABBA - Take a chance on me