Give Trump a chance

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zinfamous

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I think the travel ban illustrated it nicely. Remember the picture of that Iranian infant that needed heart surgery? The one that melted your heart, even if someone shouldn't need to be cute to be treated humanely? I saw Trumpsters look at that picture and brush it off.

They have no empathy, they're dead inside. It really is the worst thing that can happen to a person.

oh, that kid?

Just one skittle buried among other potential terrorist skittles.

Sometimes, I think that our very own spidey has been away drafting the language of these alt-right nutbaggers, and even Trump's very own male-like hell spawn.
 

Catriona

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/opinions/reasoning-with-trump-voters-mallicote/index.html

How to reason with a Trump voter

You voted for Trump because Hillary Clinton was going to be in Wall Street's pocket. Trump wants to repeal Dodd-Frank and eliminate the Fiduciary Rule, letting Wall Street return to its pre-2008 ways.
You voted for Trump because you thought the Clinton Foundation was "pay for play." Trump has refused to wall off his businesses from his administration, and personally profits from payments from foreign governments.
You voted for Trump because of Clinton's role in Benghazi. Trump ordered the Yemen raid without adequate intel, and tweeted about "FAKE NEWS" while Americans died as a result of his carelessness.
You voted for Trump because Clinton didn't care about "the little guy." Trump's cabinet is full of billionaires, and he's taking away your health insurance so he can give them a multi-million-dollar tax break.
You voted for Trump because he was going to build a wall and Mexico was going to pay for it. American consumers will pay for the wall via import tariffs.
You voted for Trump because Clinton was going to get us into a war. Trump has provoked our enemies, alienated our allies and given ISIS a decade's worth of recruiting material.
You voted for Trump because Clinton didn't have the "stamina" to do the job. Trump hung up on the Australian Prime Minister during a 5 p.m. phone call because "it was at the end of a long day and he was tired and fatigue was setting in."
You voted for Trump because foreign leaders wouldn't respect Clinton. Foreign leaders, both friendly and hostile, are openly mocking Trump.
You voted for Trump because Clinton lies and "he tells it like it is." Trump and his administration lie with a regularity and brazenness that can only be described as shocking.
Let's be honest about what really happened.
The reality is that you voted for Trump because you got conned. Trump is a grifter and the American people were the mark. Hey, it happens, and there's no shame in being taken in by a pro. But now that you know the score, quit insisting the conman is on your side.


And all in 3 weeks.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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What does "give Trump a chance" even mean? We don't have any choice but to give him a chance to be POTUS, because he's legally the POTUS. So far as not criticizing him? Sorry, no. Not only do we have a right of free speech but so far as I'm concerned, we have a civic duty to keep our president honest. What good is there in keeping our mouths shut while a president lies and/or is corrupt? Does "give Trump a chance" mean we wait some fixed amount of time, say 6 months, while he's dishonest and corrupt before pointing it out? Bull.
 

PokerGuy

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I think the travel ban illustrated it nicely. Remember the picture of that Iranian infant that needed heart surgery? The one that melted your heart, even if someone shouldn't need to be cute to be treated humanely? I saw Trumpsters look at that picture and brush it off.

They have no empathy, they're dead inside. It really is the worst thing that can happen to a person.

That's because you don't make policy based on emotion, you use logic. I understand it's hard for the "feels" generation, but bringing up some picture of some kid as if that means anything is both stupid and pointless.

So far Trump has done a terrific job, so I guess it really doesn't matter if idiots want to "give him a chance" or not.
 

PokerGuy

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What does "give Trump a chance" even mean? We don't have any choice but to give him a chance to be POTUS, because he's legally the POTUS. So far as not criticizing him? Sorry, no. Not only do we have a right of free speech but so far as I'm concerned, we have a civic duty to keep our president honest. What good is there in keeping our mouths shut while a president lies and/or is corrupt? Does "give Trump a chance" mean we wait some fixed amount of time, say 6 months, while he's dishonest and corrupt before pointing it out? Bull.

Zero disagreement with this. Giving him a chance can't (and shouldn't) mean "can't criticize him or express your opinion". The line has to be drawn at violence, looting, destruction of property etc. No tolerance for that. Criticizing the president? Perfectly fine.
 

Bitek

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Aug 2, 2001
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Well, there's your problem. You're assigning sense to a significant portion of the electorate, a portion which has already shown it has no sense.

They saw W as the first "MBA" president and he was going to straighten things out too and bring responsibility back to the WH.
Yet they missed all those giant red flags too.

OOPS
 
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hal2kilo

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Feb 24, 2009
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By what possible metric could he be honestly judged to be doing a "terrific job"?!?
He's makes us liberals mad. It's really sad story about this nation that, and I really believe this, most of the idiots that voted for Trump was because it would upset liberals. The nation be damned.
 
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MrPickins

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He's makes us liberals mad. It's really sad story about this nation that, and I really believe this, most of the idiots that voted for Trump was because it would upset liberals. The nation be damned.

He is doing a good job at that. Hell, I'm a moderate and he's making me pretty angry.
 

Jhhnn

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By what possible metric could he be honestly judged to be doing a "terrific job"?!?

The archaic term means "to terrify".

PG is back in his groove, both claiming Trump was a lousy candidate & yet somehow worthy of praise as President.
 

Jhhnn

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He's makes us liberals mad. It's really sad story about this nation that, and I really believe this, most of the idiots that voted for Trump was because it would upset liberals. The nation be damned.

Yep. Fuck it. Tear it down.
 
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I think the travel ban illustrated it nicely. Remember the picture of that Iranian infant that needed heart surgery? The one that melted your heart, even if someone shouldn't need to be cute to be treated humanely? I saw Trumpsters look at that picture and brush it off.

They have no empathy, they're dead inside. It really is the worst thing that can happen to a person.
This issue was clearly unforeseen and we are all thankful the kid lived. But please do tell me again about lack of empathy and people who are dead inside...as the aftermath of Obama's and Clinton's illegal intervention in Libya continues to this day. I'm all ears.


Migrants step over dead bodies while being rescued by members of Proactiva Open Arms nongovernmental organization in the Mediterranean Sea, some 12 nautical miles north of Libya, on Oct. 4.
 
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MongGrel

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This issue was clearly unforeseen and we are all thankful the kid lived. But please do tell me again about lack of empathy and people who are dead inside...as the aftermath of Obama's and Clinton's illegal intervention in Libya continues to this day. I'm all ears.

You are really scraping the absolute bottom right there.
 
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MrPickins

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This issue was clearly unforeseen and we are all thankful the kid lived. But please do tell me again about lack of empathy and people who are dead inside...as the aftermath of Obama's and Clinton's illegal intervention in Libya continues to this day. I'm all ears.


Migrants step over dead bodies while being rescued by members of Proactiva Open Arms nongovernmental organization in the Mediterranean Sea, some 12 nautical miles north of Libya, on Oct. 4.

Fucks sake, dude... get a new shtick; you've overused this one.

Additionally, fuck off with the gore. I get you want the shock value, but this isn't that type of forum.
 
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pauldun170

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What does "give Trump a chance" even mean? We don't have any choice but to give him a chance to be POTUS, because he's legally the POTUS. So far as not criticizing him? Sorry, no. Not only do we have a right of free speech but so far as I'm concerned, we have a civic duty to keep our president honest. What good is there in keeping our mouths shut while a president lies and/or is corrupt? Does "give Trump a chance" mean we wait some fixed amount of time, say 6 months, while he's dishonest and corrupt before pointing it out? Bull.
Exactly

Chances are issued on election day.
He was elected and will serve for 4 years minimum (barring impeachment or death or committal to looney bin)
Everyone is stuck with him.
He is an elected official. You do not "give elected officials a chance".
This isn't a workplace or some social relationship.
If he does something stupid, illegal or wrong, your duty as a citizen of the United Sates is to speak up.
No one should be asking people to give their favored elected official a chance. At most they should be asking people to do their due diligence when forming their opinion.
 
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Fucks sake, dude... get a new shtick; you've overused this one.

Additionally, fuck off with the gore. I get you want the shock value, but this isn't that type of forum.
It's called reality. Where's you're fucking empathy? Are you fucking dead inside?
 
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