Giving birth soon to a .05 oz 2mm calcium baby

[Cr0nJ0b]

Being a man, that's the only way I can describe the fun of having my first kidney stone.

My wife had them a few years back, but now it's my turn.

started last Friday AM (emergency room) Pain was like a 4-5, but in the right spot so I figured it was a stone. I was shocky, had nausea, and cold sweats. (12:00am.) They took me in did a CT and confirmed that I have a beautiful bouncing baby rock in my kidney.

They gave me toradal, and I was pretty good. I drank water, took flomax and they said it would pass in the next day. Well, they forgot to give me a strainer to make sure that I knew when it passed...and I didn't really get the process so Friday-Wed I was all good. I stopped taking the meds because I felt fine. I was all good.

Then came the morning -- The baby started kicking at like 7:00AM. I figured I'll just walk through it...it wasn't that bad last week. "how bad could it be?".

Well it got bad. Screaming obscenities infront of my young kids bad.

Went to the ER at like 8:00am. They saw me right away, and that's when I learned what real pain is. Pain like i never thought existed. They asked me from 1-10 how bad....11? My dial goes to 11. I was crying, screaming and begging for a pillow or something to scream into. Eventually they gave me a rolled up towel that I could bite on and muffle the screams.

Adavan, Torodal, and whatever else later....I'm all good.

Now I'm working on getting this baby delivered.

my method is beer, water, Toridol, Percaset and flowmax.

We'll see how it all works out.

Thanks for listening.

 

[shortylickens]

I've had 12.

They get easier.

Just like having your fingers chopped off probably gets easier.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Ouch, sounds painful. Is this something that everyone eventually goes through? I sure hear about it often. I'm not looking forward to the day that it's my turn.

 

[Gooberlx2]

My sympathies, man. Been there.

Best I can describe it was as if my kidney was a sponge, and someone had forced their hand up through my dick hole and was squeezing it out repeatedly.

 

[Iron Woode]

been there. done that. posted a thread about it.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2203713

 

[fixxor]

I've had around 4. Last one was 5mm and was an ongoing nightmare for about 2 months. After many emergency room visits they finally did the surgery on me and put a stint in. After that I drastically changed my diet and hope I don't go thought that bullshit again. But, I seem to manage the pain better then when I had my first one, but gawd damn it sucks.

 

[AMD64Blondie]

Good god,that sounds like a nightmare.

Hope things start getting better..

 

[disappoint]

There any way to prevent the darn things?

 

[burninatortech4]

Better diet.

 

[Newbian]

Make sure you bring it home for the crib you are making for it.

 

[Reasonable Doubt]

Exactly what types of foods causes kidney stones.

I'd like to avoid it.

 

[DrDoug]

Your first time? Well don't piss it away!

Oh, right.... :biggrin:

Good luck and remember the joy of your wife giving birth when you feel it moving.

"You shall pass!"

OK, enough bad humor... may your "delivery" be as quick as possible!

 

[vailr]

There's something called lithotripsy, that uses ultrasound or laser to break up kidney or gall stones. Usually done under guidance of x-ray fluoroscopy.

From the Wikipedia entry for "kidney stone":

Risk factors

Dehydration from low fluid intake is a major factor in stone formation.[3][7]
High dietary intake of animal protein,[3] sodium, refined sugars, fructose and high fructose corn syrup,[8] oxalate,[1] grapefruit juice, and apple juice may increase the risk of kidney stone formation.[7]
Kidney stones can result from an underlying metabolic condition, such as distal renal tubular acidosis,[9] Dent's disease,[10] hyperparathyroidism,[11] primary hyperoxaluria,[12] or medullary sponge kidney. 3–20% of people who form kidney stones have medullary sponge kidney.[13][14]
Kidney stones are more common in people with Crohn's disease;[15] Crohn's disease is associated with hyperoxaluria and malabsorption of magnesium.[16]
A person with recurrent kidney stones may be screened for such disorders. This is typically done with a 24-hour urine collection. The urine is analyzed for features that promote stone formation.[6]
Calcite

Calcium is one component of the most common type of human kidney stones, calcium oxalate. Some studies[which?] suggest people who take calcium as a dietary supplement have a higher risk of developing kidney stones. In the United States, those findings were used[by whom?] as the basis for setting the Reference Daily Intake for calcium in adults.[17]
In the early 1990s, a study conducted for the Women's Health Initiative in the US found that postmenopausal women who consumed 1000 mg of supplemental calcium and 400 international units of vitamin D per day for seven years had a 17% higher risk of developing kidney stones than subjects taking a placebo.[18] The Nurses' Health Study also showed an association between supplemental calcium intake and kidney stone formation.[1]
Unlike supplemental calcium, high intakes of dietary calcium do not appear to cause kidney stones and may actually protect against their development.[1][18] This is perhaps related to the role of calcium in binding ingested oxalate in the gastrointestinal tract. As the amount of calcium intake decreases, the amount of oxalate available for absorption into the bloodstream increases; this oxalate is then excreted in greater amounts into the urine by the kidneys. In the urine, oxalate is a very strong promoter of calcium oxalate precipitation—about 15 times stronger than calcium. A 2004 study found that diets low in calcium are associated with a higher overall risk for kidney stone formation.[19] For most individuals, other risk factors for kidney stones, such as high intakes of dietary oxalates and low fluid intake, play a greater role than calcium intake.[20]
Other electrolytes

Calcium is not the only electrolyte that influences the formation of kidney stones. For example, by increasing urinary calcium excretion, high dietary sodium may increase the risk of stone formation.[1]
Drinking fluoridated tap water may increase the risk of kidney stone formation by a similar mechanism, though further epidemiologic studies are warranted to determine whether fluoride in drinking water is associated with an increased incidence of kidney stones.[21] High dietary intake of potassium appears to reduce the risk of stone formation because potassium promotes the urinary excretion of citrate, an inhibitor of calcium crystal formation.[citation needed]
Kidney stones are more likely to develop, and to grow larger, if a person has low dietary magnesium. Magnesium inhibits stone formation.[22]
Animal protein

Diets in Western nations typically contain a large proportion of animal protein. Consumption of animal protein creates an acid load that increases urinary excretion of calcium and uric acid and reduced citrate. Urinary excretion of excess sulfurous amino acids (e.g., cysteine and methionine), uric acid, and other acidic metabolites from animal protein acidifies the urine, which promotes the formation of kidney stones.[23] Low urinary citrate excretion is also commonly found in those with a high dietary intake of animal protein, whereas vegetarians tend to have higher levels of citrate excretion.[1] Low urinary citrate, too, promotes stone formation.

 

[marmasatt]

Exactly what types of foods causes kidney stones.

I'd like to avoid it.

This x 10000. Please provide a list of preventative treatments in summary form not less than 6 pages.

Thank you.

 

[dud]

I guess if you don't eat ... You won't get one?

 

[xSauronx]

I've had 12.

They get easier.

Just like having your fingers chopped off probably gets easier.

really. my brother has had at least that many, maybe more. its nuts. the few woman ive run into who have had kidney stones AND a baby say the stones are much worse. nobody volunteers for a kidney stone.

the brothers preferred way to get through it is to drink beers and smoke pot for a couple of days. i think he just stays in a haze til it passes.

 

[shortylickens]

The MAIN cause is bad diet.

Excess protein can contribute, especially if it comes from red meat. But its not a guarantee of stones, just a factor.

Seems to be like cancer, its more a genetic predisposition than anything else.

 

[radhak]

I have been along when a close friend went thru this, holding his clammy, sweaty hand, and I swore I will never be there. Dunno if fate has it in store for me yet, but my 'research' has told me to :

a. Drink water. Lots of it. Particularly if you sweat a lot. Because urination is the key here. Loss of water thru sweat reduces the amount/frequency you piss, and that adds up to stone-causing minerals to settle and coagulate in the kidneys and urinary tract. You gotta piss a lot each day.

I used to drink very little water, then I found a system - at the stroke of every hour, I drink a glass of water. Around 6-8 ounces, I think. It's been a good habit to make.

b. Don't cut down calcium or oxalates as much as sodium. Add less and less salt to your food; believe me, it's a habit that can be reversed to great benefit, not just kidney-stones.

c. Drink lemonades - sugar-free if possible, or with sugar-substitutes. The citric acid does things that reduces crystallizing the calcium.

d. Okay, this last is easy for me to say, because I am a vegetarian, but red meat is a problem; reduce it. The same for high-fructose corn syrup.

e. Increase consumption of whole grains, fruits and vegetables.

Frankly, I have been scared straight to start on that since that horrible night couple of years ago, and I believe I am healthier. Definitely feel less scared!

 

[WilliamM2]

There any way to prevent the darn things?

Yes, there is treatment. Anyone who has them multiple times should see a Nephrologist. I take two pills a day, haven't had a stone in over twenty years.

I'm glad I had a good doctor 20 years ago, most people aren't even aware their condition is easily treatable.

 

[WilliamM2]

Better diet.

Nonsense.

 

[inachu]

Ouch, sounds painful. Is this something that everyone eventually goes through? I sure hear about it often. I'm not looking forward to the day that it's my turn.

Many things can cause kidney stones.....

Your diet.
Extreme weight loss.
Certain medicines.

 

[lupi]

Mentioned this before in these threads but it still makes me laugh. In the ER for some post op pain management and a chic gets into the bed next to me and starts to groan and makes all types of funky sounds. If you didn't know better you'd think some extreme fetish porno was being filmed. Turns out she had stones and only calmed down after they gave her a couple shots of morphine. They then went to discharge her with instructions to call her doctor in the morning and a script for some pills. She got a little irritated that they couldn't just give her a couple more of those prepared injections to take home as that was the only thing that has worked so far.

 

[allisolm]

When my husband had his one and only stone a few years ago, his doc said the main cause was dehydration and that the start of the stone could have been many years before the attack. I'm pretty sure that countless field duty assignments in places like Egypt in the summer resulted in a lot of dehydration experiences.

His stone was so large it required a stent so he could pass urine and 2 rounds with a lithotripter to break it up into small enough pieces to pass. Did not look like he was having any fun during it all.

I do remember that the bill for it all (which thankfully was 100% covered) was over $50,000.

 

[manimal]

first one is always the worst. I pass salivary stones and they can get so big they stuck. Ive had 3 emergency surguries because them babies got too big. I posted a picture of one a few years ago and someone said they threw up looking at it


Drink shitloads of water man. last year I started the ultrasound therapy to break them up before passing but the gd insurance gives me grief about it. Ive passed hundreds of stones lost count.

 

[Andy22]

I wonder how it compares to Gallstones. I went through a several episodes of this and would not wish that on my worst enemy. I wanted to die just so it didn't hurt anymore and when the pain would go away the absence of pain felt like total ecstasy.