Glad I skipped Sandy Bridge

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I think the trick with the waiting game is to figure out exactly how limited you are by what you have now. How much of an upgrade it's going to be.

I have an Athlon X2 5600+ and a 7800GTX. Upgrading to 2500K and a GTX 570 gives me like a 9 zillion percent performance boost. Would ugrading to 2600K and a GTX 580 and getting a 9.0000002 zillion percent performance boost, or waiting till whatever appears in Q2 and getting a 9.0000003 zillion percent performance boost have been noticeably different for me? I doubt it. So i went for it.

If you have an i5 750...maybe wait. lol



I like your PC setup, it's similar to mine.

I finally bit since SB came out and although I like to support AMD, and have in builds for my GF and friends, I think the price to performance is excellent, and that drives me to build a new PC, that and my current one is 5+ years old and the GFX card is starting to die (esp. in 3d)
 

magomago

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And you time reinstalling systems is worth?

not to mention how the hell he is getting by with 150-200 a year. That, I don't believe....who would buy used hardware at essentially the same price as new hardware
 

Dadofamunky

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Lotta people should probably skip it. Just not me. I've been on C2D for three years, and now I can finally afford an upgrade.
 

Dribble

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You can't say you've "skipped" something until the replacement has come out, that would be ivy bridge due in another year.

If you post this thread at the start of 2012 it might make sense...
 

smakme7757

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I just got myself a new Sandy Bridge 2600k platform with an SSD and 8GB of DDR3 ram. It's by far the biggest upgrade i have ever done. Coming from a C2Q and DDR2 it's a massive upgrade.
 

Axon

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I probably should have skipped, coming from an i7 920 @ 3.8, but I'm happy to finally play with some new tech.
 

Acanthus

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I agree. For most tasks except those who are doing high end 3D or some extreme video editing and shaving a few seconds off the time really makes a difference, a C2Q is really not bad at all.



Your Q9550 is good for a while yet. Unless a few seconds savings in video encoding or the like tickles you in a special way. Personally I'm not itching for upgrades yet.

Just a heads up, when you're encoding in 1080P you're talking 50%+ of the time shaved off of a 4 hour encode when comparing to an OC'd Core 2 Quad.
 

Mellman

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And you time reinstalling systems is worth?

If it's something they enjoy then it's no big deal...i used to rebuild my system every 4-5 months when new stuff was coming out, i enjoyed it, it was a hobby, and didn't cost a lot of money since i was always buying at good prices.

Now on the other hand i don't have time to do that anymore and have been keeping my system running as long as I can. I'm on a Core2Duo E6400 that at one time was OC'd to 3.2Ghz but now runs at stock speeds due to instability issues. I've been waiting for SB for ~8 months rather than going to the previous intel CPU's. It is worth the wait for me, i'm sure of it.
 

scrubman

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I just got myself a new Sandy Bridge 2600k platform with an SSD and 8GB of DDR3 ram. It's by far the biggest upgrade i have ever done. Coming from a C2Q and DDR2 it's a massive upgrade.

Same here exactly. Same old setup and same new setup but with a GTX570 to boot! And for me, although I wasnt hurting for more CPU power it was over 3 years since upgrading and i have "waited" long enough. You can always say wait, wait, wait, but eventually you just do it when there is a good value/performance ratio. And most importantly, I can stop wasting time and energy trying to decide if "its time" every time a new version comes out. Time to relax and enjoy the speed for at least a couple years!
 

Castiel

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Same here exactly. Same old setup and same new setup but with a GTX570 to boot! And for me, although I wasnt hurting for more CPU power it was over 3 years since upgrading and i have "waited" long enough. You can always say wait, wait, wait, but eventually you just do it when there is a good value/performance ratio. And most importantly, I can stop wasting time and energy trying to decide if "its time" every time a new version comes out. Time to relax and enjoy the speed for at least a couple years!

Just upgrade to every new thing. It takes the guesswork out of it
 

COPOHawk

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I just got myself a new Sandy Bridge 2600k platform with an SSD and 8GB of DDR3 ram. It's by far the biggest upgrade i have ever done. Coming from a C2Q and DDR2 it's a massive upgrade.

From my own upgrades for myself and for customers...I can tell you that the largest bump in performance came from the SSD upgrade

I have a Q6600 OC'd to 3.3 ghz...it is my primary workstation for internet, general office, gaming, etc. The Intel G2 80 GB SSD made such a huge difference...and since I don't do anything that taxes the CPU to 100%...why upgrade? Although it is tough to keep the upgrade bug in check...I will be waiting for Ivy Bridge.

Hobbyists never seem to take into account their own time involved with hardware/software upgrades...along with any potential "cutting edge" PITA issues with cutting edge stuff including driver issues, bad hardware, etc.

Let the rest of you suffer the pain first before I upgrade
 

Castiel

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From my own upgrades for myself and for customers...I can tell you that the largest bump in performance came from the SSD upgrade

I have a Q6600 OC'd to 3.3 ghz...it is my primary workstation for internet, general office, gaming, etc. The Intel G2 80 GB SSD made such a huge difference...and since I don't do anything that taxes the CPU to 100%...why upgrade? Although it is tough to keep the upgrade bug in check...I will be waiting for Ivy Bridge.

Hobbyists never seem to take into account their own time involved with hardware/software upgrades...along with any potential "cutting edge" PITA issues with cutting edge stuff including driver issues, bad hardware, etc.

Let the rest of you suffer the pain first before I upgrade

What about Sandy Bridge and an SSD? :biggrin:

I love my Corsair Force SSD
 

COPOHawk

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LOL...don't get me wrong...I know SB and an SSD are faster than what I have...but I don't do encoding or any video work...

I am waiting for the next Intel SSD (G3)...but I know that I won't see a huge jump in performance like from HDD to SSD...

Also...reliability is huge for me...and so far I have been impressed with Intel SSD reliability. Hope the SB architecture is the same thing...a year from now
 

RussianSensation

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And you time reinstalling systems is worth?

?

It takes 30 min to swap out CPU + Mobo. Then you use the new parts for another 12-15 months. You don't have 30 min to spare on your hobby on 1 weekend?

not to mention how the hell he is getting by with 150-200 a year. That, I don't believe....who would buy used hardware at essentially the same price as new hardware

See you are thinking about it wrong. For example, last couple months there have been deals on a $200-215 HD5870. Say you had a GTX275, you could have sold that card for $80-$100 to someone who wants to SLI perhaps and the total cash upgrade would have cost you about $115-120 only. In 8-10 months from now, you can then just resell this HD5870 for prob $130. Chances are there will be a card that's 50%+ faster for $280 by the end of this year. That's $150 right there. Next year, do the same thing. Most of the guys who run the best graphics cards on our forums resell older hardware to offset the costs. People who buy $400-500 cards and hold them for 4-5 years, now that's a strategy I don't agree with.

You think people are spending $500 on a GTX480 and then they spend another $500 on a GTX580, and then another $500 on the GTX680, totalling $1500 in cash outlay? Maybe those who don't care about $$ at all do. Others probably sell the 480 for $400 8 months after release, just weeks before GTX580 lands (and use a spare card in the meantime). Then when the 580 comes out, it only costs $100-150 to upgrade to. Since the 580 is the fastest card, it will hold its value for a long time until something faster comes out (such as the 680 or the 7970). They'll dump the 580 before its value is eroded and step up to the next fastest card.
 
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Continuity28

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I came from an Athlon 64 4000+ from like 6 years ago. I'm glad I didn't wait any longer, felt ancient in games. Sad thing is, even that old system performed better than most I've seen, even with better hardware (because of most users' software choices and neglect).
 

Dark Shroud

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I couldn't wait for Z68, my P4 is on it's last legs so my 2600k & P67 UD3 are in the mail. It's served me well in the almost 7 years I've used it but I can't abuse it anymore. My family can use it for Web & Office just fine for another year. Meanwhile I'll probably buy an Ivy Bridge Octo-core depending on Intel's updated road map.
 

aigomorla

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mmmm...

im already branded a hypocrite for going SB.

So i think i'll just stay shut from now on in regards to migration on SB.

:X
 

AkumaX

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I was under the impression that Z67 was Sandy Bridge (LGA 1155) and Z68 was Ivy Bridge (LGA 2011), that's not the case?
 

Arkaign

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Just a heads up, when you're encoding in 1080P you're talking 50%+ of the time shaved off of a 4 hour encode when comparing to an OC'd Core 2 Quad.

That's a good point, SB is great for people who lots of HD encoding, or like to use their PCs for Folding/Seti/etc. In the general population, that's not a lot of people by %, but in the AT community it's probably many times higher than that. I do some gaming, watch movies, and do internet and remote support work, so SB would be a huge waste of $ for me to replace a system that is already somewhat wasted with my simple workloads.

I think outside of the 69xx / 580 CF/SLI crowd, gamers also have no reason to upgrade from already fast quads to SB.

SB is a great move for dual-core and especially single-core users that are itching for some more speed though. And of course Phenom I owners, those things are awful even if they are technically quad cores.
 
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