Global Extremes:8-29-07 NOAA says human activity to blame for increase in gases and hottest temps on record

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dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
OMFGBBQ

I just watched this thing. It makes Michael Moore's works look like a cartoon.

Big Oil paid big big bucks for this piece of crap.

The Great Global Warming Swindle

uh, no. i seriously doubt you watched it. Besides if your not a skeptic your part of the problem. That is the real issue here, so called scientist out there are starting to edge towards not allowing for skeptics. Real scienctist never are anything but skeptics.

Yes, I am skeptical of anyone that seriously believes we have nothing to with fcking this planet up.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
OMFGBBQ

I just watched this thing. It makes Michael Moore's works look like a cartoon.

Big Oil paid big big bucks for this piece of crap.

The Great Global Warming Swindle



uh, no.

i seriously doubt you watched it. Besides if your not a skeptic your part of the problem. That is the real issue here, so called scientist out there are starting to edge towards not allowing for skeptics. Real scienctist never are anything but skeptics.

Being sceptical is not the same as refusing to see what's in front of your face.
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
OMFGBBQ

I just watched this thing. It makes Michael Moore's works look like a cartoon.

Big Oil paid big big bucks for this piece of crap.

The Great Global Warming Swindle



uh, no.

i seriously doubt you watched it. Besides if your not a skeptic your part of the problem. That is the real issue here, so called scientist out there are starting to edge towards not allowing for skeptics. Real scienctist never are anything but skeptics.

Being sceptical is not the same as refusing to see what's in front of your face.

for me its 2 feet of snow and ice

 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: johnnobts
Does anybody remember about 15-20 years ago when "global cooling" was a "proven theory" and was generally accepted by the scientific community as truth?

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no they don't remember. selective amnesia. wonder when the theory of solar warming will catch on?

IF SCIENCE IS WRONG ONCE EVER IT IS ALWAYS WRONG. NEVER TRUST SCIENCE AGAIN, THROW OUT YOUR MICROWAVE AND TOASTER.
 

dmcowen674

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Just a figment of imagination. The readings must be wrong according to the resident Republicans and Climate experts.

3-15-2007 Winter warmest on record worldwide

This winter was the warmest on record worldwide, the government said Thursday in the latest worrisome report focusing on changing climate. The report comes just over a month after the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said global warming is very likely caused by human actions and is so severe it will continue for centuries.

The report noted that in the Northern Hemisphere the combined land and water temperature was the warmest ever at 1.64 degrees above average. In the Southern Hemisphere, where it was summer, the temperature was 0.88 degree above average and the fourth warmest.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Just a figment of imagination. The readings must be wrong according to the resident Republicans and Climate experts.

3-15-2007 Winter warmest on record worldwide

This winter was the warmest on record worldwide, the government said Thursday in the latest worrisome report focusing on changing climate. The report comes just over a month after the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said global warming is very likely caused by human actions and is so severe it will continue for centuries.

The report noted that in the Northern Hemisphere the combined land and water temperature was the warmest ever at 1.64 degrees above average. In the Southern Hemisphere, where it was summer, the temperature was 0.88 degree above average and the fourth warmest.


The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said the combined land and ocean temperatures for December through February were 1.3 degrees Fahrenheit above average for the period since record keeping began in 1880

wow, the warmest winter in 127 years......that proves it :roll:
 

Harvey

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It's also the dryest winter on record out here in California. We're in for another really dangerous fire season.
 

JD50

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Why is it that whenever it is really cold, you guys say that you can't judge global warming by small cooling trends, but when its warm, you point to that as global warming? Either way, the debate is about how much man is effecting it, not if it is happening.
 

johnnobts

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A former Canadian defense minister is demanding governments worldwide disclose and use secret alien technologies obtained in alleged UFO crashes to stem climate change, a local paper said Wednesday.

He shocked Canadians in September 2005 by announcing he once saw a UFO.

I would like to see what (alien) technology there might be that could eliminate the burning of fossil fuels within a generation ... that could be a way to save our planet," Paul Hellyer, 83, told the Ottawa Citizen.

Alien spacecrafts would have traveled vast distances to reach Earth, and so must be equipped with advanced propulsion systems or used exceptional fuels, he told the newspaper.

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of course the aliens could help, but they won't. they're ruled by the evil Republican empire, and George Bush is the evil emperor whose tyranny spans most of the galaxy. don't believe me? then why, pray tell, is the planet Mars warming at an equal rate to earth, hmm? Could it be the Republican Martians haven't signed the Kyoto Accords either? Methinks so... All this nonsense about solar warming is just silly.
 

imported_Shivetya

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determining what is warm or what is cold is purely political.

and defining when Winter is seems to change depending on the needs of the GW crowd too.

 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Shivetya
determining what is warm or what is cold is purely political.

There's your Republican version of "science". :roll:

But Dave....they declare the warmest winter and winter isn't over yet.

What kind of science is that?
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
determining what is warm or what is cold is purely political.

and defining when Winter is seems to change depending on the needs of the GW crowd too.

People in OT got mad and called people like you dumbasses, but what am I supposed to call you?

Fact: seasons are the very well defined based on astronomy. Winter happens between the winter solstice and spring equinox. This has been the case for many centuries.

Shivetya's fact: 'winter' is a political term controlled by the GW crowd.


So please explain to me how this isn't stupid.
 

dmcowen674

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3-17-2007 Military planes dump water in haze-hit Thailand

Military planes have flown over northern Thailand, dumping water in an effort to contain haze which has affected some five million people for the past two weeks, an official said Saturday.

Two aircraft dropped water in the northern tourist hotspot of Chiang Mai where air quality still remained at a level considered unhealthy due to the haze caused by slash-and-burn farming and wildfires in the region and parts of neighboring Laos and Myanmar.
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This would have no effect on the planet according to resident Republicans :roll:
 
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I starting to believe in Global Warming, for I have lived in the Metro Detroit, Michigan for my whole life (42 years old) and when I was a child I could remember having big snow storms & very cold weather. The last 2-3 years I've hardly used my snowblower and the cold spells have only last a couple of weeks at a time, I could remember cold spells lasting a couple of months back then. This year it really didn't get cold until January when it used to get cold in November. I'm not going around yelling the sky is falling like chicken little, but at the same time I not going to put blinders on and pretend global warming isn't happening. No need to panic yet, but we as humans have to do something now to slow global warming and reverse it (maybe). If we wait then it might be too late. You're never going to get the whole scientific community to agree on the global warming issue and right now we have a majority which is good enough for me.
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: Gimli
I starting to believe in Global Warming, for I have lived in the Metro Detroit, Michigan for my whole life (42 years old) and when I was a child I could remember having big snow storms & very cold weather. The last 2-3 years I've hardly used my snowblower and the cold spells have only last a couple of weeks at a time, I could remember cold spells lasting a couple of months back then. This year it really didn't get cold until January when it used to get cold in November. I'm not going around yelling the sky is falling like chicken little, but at the same time I not going to put blinders on and pretend global warming isn't happening. No need to panic yet, but we as humans have to do something now to slow global warming and reverse it (maybe). If we wait then it might be too late. You're never going to get the whole scientific community to agree on the global warming issue and right now we have a majority which is good enough for me.
I moved from Detroit to Oregon some 30 years ago...

This year, we had snow in November, and I don't remember EVER having snow prior to December. Most times, it's not until January.

So... What does that mean?


The problem is that many people take one small snapshot and draw conclusions... But they only pick and choose the ones that fits their agenda.
(This last comment is not directed at you, Gimli.)

Again, the debate isn't really whether or not the earth is a few degrees warmer this decade than 7 decades ago... It's whether or not it is really human cause, or natural cycle.
 

Jaskalas

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Global Warming:3-15-07 Winter warmest on record ever

That was never in question, as far as I?m concerned. It?s the cause behind it and your religious faith-like zealotry oppressing alternative ideas and science where you lose me.
 

rickn

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Global Warming:3-15-07 Winter warmest on record ever


considering we only have been keeping weather records for about 200yrs. that's pretty bold statement. I'm willing to bet the earth was a lot hotter way before we humans were around.

I live in Florida because I hate cold weather.
 

Mardeth

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rickn, thats why it says "on record"

The top 10 hottest years on record consist of the last 11 years. That makes you think.

I wonder how long it will take before we can be sure that global warming is because of human actions or not. 10+ years at least...
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Global Warming:3-15-07 Winter warmest on record ever

That was never in question, as far as I?m concerned. It?s the cause behind it and your religious faith-like zealotry oppressing alternative ideas and science where you lose me.

You know, talk is very cheap and everyone loves spouting these mindless platitudes, but how about some reasoning?

What you basically you have to explain is how a ~35% increase in CO2 concentrations between 1800 and now has not and will not impact the climate.

Please point me to these alternative scientific theories (not hair brained ideas and "what ifs" - actual theories).
 

StageLeft

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Yeah, the world is warming, so what. Nobody actually has a clue whether that's a net gain or loss for all of us and how much we are or are not contributing to a exacerbate a predefinied cyclical process anyway.
 

manowar821

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I think that the sheer size of this thread proves once and for all... Nobody will ever agree when it has to do with politics and religion.

Give it up, you guys. No one is going to listen, they just want to yell at you and shut you out.
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
3-17-2007 Military planes dump water in haze-hit Thailand

Military planes have flown over northern Thailand, dumping water in an effort to contain haze which has affected some five million people for the past two weeks, an official said Saturday.

Two aircraft dropped water in the northern tourist hotspot of Chiang Mai where air quality still remained at a level considered unhealthy due to the haze caused by slash-and-burn farming and wildfires in the region and parts of neighboring Laos and Myanmar.
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This would have no effect on the planet according to resident Republicans :roll:

Dave how much of South America got slash and burned?
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
3-17-2007 Military planes dump water in haze-hit Thailand

Military planes have flown over northern Thailand, dumping water in an effort to contain haze which has affected some five million people for the past two weeks, an official said Saturday.

Two aircraft dropped water in the northern tourist hotspot of Chiang Mai where air quality still remained at a level considered unhealthy due to the haze caused by slash-and-burn farming and wildfires in the region and parts of neighboring Laos and Myanmar.
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This would have no effect on the planet according to resident Republicans :roll:

Dave how much of South America got slash and burned?

A lot, the Amazon is dissapearing more and more everyday.

No affect on the planet right?
 
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