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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Unfortunately, this GoPackGo links sheds zero light on global warming. The Presence of a thin crustal spot off the coast of Greenland tells us zero. Its been there for millions of years, it probably emits a relatively constant amount of heat into the water each and every year, and its likely to do the same over millions of more years.
The point being, its been there doing the same thing for a long time, yet we suddenly have all kind of arctic ice melting just recently. And the same thing is happening half a world a away in the Antarctic. Far away from this Greenland hot spot.
Magma flows are periodic (and often unstable), so the heat output would not be constant. Not saying it's important in the grand scheme of things, but it shouldn't be dismissed so readily either. Also, recent data indicate a net growth in ice on Antarctica due to increased deposition rates near the center of the continent, while the rate of decline around the periphery is roughly constant.Originally posted by: Lemon law
Unfortunately, this GoPackGo links sheds zero light on global warming. The Presence of a thin crustal spot off the coast of Greenland tells us zero. Its been there for millions of years, it probably emits a relatively constant amount of heat into the water each and every year, and its likely to do the same over millions of more years.
The point being, its been there doing the same thing for a long time, yet we suddenly have all kind of arctic ice melting just recently. And the same thing is happening half a world a away in the Antarctic. Far away from this Greenland hot spot.
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Unfortunately, this GoPackGo links sheds zero light on global warming. The Presence of a thin crustal spot off the coast of Greenland tells us zero. Its been there for millions of years, it probably emits a relatively constant amount of heat into the water each and every year, and its likely to do the same over millions of more years.
The point being, its been there doing the same thing for a long time, yet we suddenly have all kind of arctic ice melting just recently. And the same thing is happening half a world a away in the Antarctic. Far away from this Greenland hot spot.
Yes, Lava has nothing to do with heat.
I forgot that we humans are evil dirty bastards and need to be eradicated off the face of the planet.
6 Billion cyanide pills should do the trick, right?
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Unfortunately, this GoPackGo links sheds zero light on global warming. The Presence of a thin crustal spot off the coast of Greenland tells us zero. Its been there for millions of years, it probably emits a relatively constant amount of heat into the water each and every year, and its likely to do the same over millions of more years.
The point being, its been there doing the same thing for a long time, yet we suddenly have all kind of arctic ice melting just recently. And the same thing is happening half a world a away in the Antarctic. Far away from this Greenland hot spot.
Maybe your statement was unclear then.Originally posted by: Lemon law
Its funny that four people have managed to either quote my one lone post on this thread or take interpretations from it, and all four managed to get it wrong and some add error to injury plus insult.
There is plenty of scientific literature available on heat flux from magma varying fairly dramatically due to flow instabilities.There are many such global hot spots, thin spots in the earth crust. Just two such examples are in the Hawaiian Islands and another is over Yellowstone Park. The Yellowstone one, according to Geologists has been responsible for three massive super volcanoes in the last two million years and the Hawaiian one has been responsible for lesser but more frequent Island building volcanoes as the hot spot stays stationary and the much larger overlying plate moves over it driven by plate tectonics.
Short term, magma moves up and down, sometimes it breaks through to the surface and does something spectacular, but it does not mean the amount of heat leaking out does not stay at a rough constant failing such a surface manifested event.
Wrong again. The amount of antarctic ice been increasing for some time now. It's simply not depicted in any Nobel-winning movies because the addition of ice is happening at the center of the continent, whereas all of the dramatic loss is occurring along the periphery. Again, this is fairly well documented in recent scientific literature.And since we see an almost parallel amount of Ice melting in the Antarctic, half a world away, means this new find, although important, is not in itself accounting for what we see in global warming.
Quit assuming that everything is how you would like it to be. You've simply assumed that your model is correct based on ignorance and outdated evidence. I'm not saying climate change isn't real, because it is, but your statements are ignorant arrogance, a combination that I have a hard time swallowing.In short, lots of work to be done, and quit trying to impose your politically desired interpretation on ma nature. Your theory still has to fit the data and this one fails to meet the Antarctic sniff test as to it being the newly discovered missing link.
Originally posted by: Lemon law
The point being, its been there doing the same thing for a long time, yet we suddenly have all kind of arctic ice melting just recently. And the same thing is happening half a world a away in the Antarctic. Far away from this Greenland hot spot.
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Wrong again. The amount of antarctic ice been increasing for some time now. It's simply not depicted in any Nobel-winning movies because the addition of ice is happening at the center of the continent, whereas all of the dramatic loss is occurring along the periphery. Again, this is fairly well documented in recent scientific literature.
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Unfortunately, this GoPackGo links sheds zero light on global warming. The Presence of a thin crustal spot off the coast of Greenland tells us zero. Its been there for millions of years, it probably emits a relatively constant amount of heat into the water each and every year, and its likely to do the same over millions of more years.
The point being, its been there doing the same thing for a long time, yet we suddenly have all kind of arctic ice melting just recently. And the same thing is happening half a world a away in the Antarctic. Far away from this Greenland hot spot.
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Unfortunately, this GoPackGo links sheds zero light on global warming. The Presence of a thin crustal spot off the coast of Greenland tells us zero. Its been there for millions of years, it probably emits a relatively constant amount of heat into the water each and every year, and its likely to do the same over millions of more years.
The point being, its been there doing the same thing for a long time, yet we suddenly have all kind of arctic ice melting just recently. And the same thing is happening half a world a away in the Antarctic. Far away from this Greenland hot spot.
Scientific data shows the artic ice cap has been smaller than it is presently.
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Unfortunately, this GoPackGo links sheds zero light on global warming. The Presence of a thin crustal spot off the coast of Greenland tells us zero. Its been there for millions of years, it probably emits a relatively constant amount of heat into the water each and every year, and its likely to do the same over millions of more years.
The point being, its been there doing the same thing for a long time, yet we suddenly have all kind of arctic ice melting just recently. And the same thing is happening half a world a away in the Antarctic. Far away from this Greenland hot spot.
Scientific data shows the artic ice cap has been smaller than it is presently.
When? It being smaller before is not the issue.
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Unfortunately, this GoPackGo links sheds zero light on global warming. The Presence of a thin crustal spot off the coast of Greenland tells us zero. Its been there for millions of years, it probably emits a relatively constant amount of heat into the water each and every year, and its likely to do the same over millions of more years.
The point being, its been there doing the same thing for a long time, yet we suddenly have all kind of arctic ice melting just recently. And the same thing is happening half a world a away in the Antarctic. Far away from this Greenland hot spot.
Scientific data shows the artic ice cap has been smaller than it is presently.
When? It being smaller before is not the issue.
More than a dozen times since the last ice age.
Gravitometry a very definitive method for ice measurement due to local variations in density - ask anyone in the oil exploration industry - they invented the technology.Originally posted by: homercles337
Ignoring recent evidence (march 2006) does little for your scientific credibility.
Nature CU report
NASA CU report
BTW, both are reports of the same study.
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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Wrong again. The amount of antarctic ice been increasing for some time now. It's simply not depicted in any Nobel-winning movies because the addition of ice is happening at the center of the continent, whereas all of the dramatic loss is occurring along the periphery. Again, this is fairly well documented in recent scientific literature.
Ignoring recent evidence (march 2006) does little for your scientific credibility.
Nature CU report
NASA CU report
BTW, both are reports of the same study.