Originally posted by: UFOfreak
Do you believe that global warming is real now and willing to change so it won't effect you, your children, and grand children? Do you even care?
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: UFOfreak
Do you believe that global warming is real now and willing to change so it won't effect you, your children, and grand children? Do you even care?
There are already several threads about this in P&N. No need to start more.
Originally posted by: UFOfreak
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: UFOfreak
Do you believe that global warming is real now and willing to change so it won't effect you, your children, and grand children? Do you even care?
There are already several threads about this in P&N. No need to start more.
Where is this forum located?
Originally posted by: FoBoT
i believe in normal natural global climate cycles
i don't believe that man-made stuff is significantly accelerating the current normal/natural warming trend that we are in
Originally posted by: UFOfreak
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: UFOfreak
Do you believe that global warming is real now and willing to change so it won't effect you, your children, and grand children? Do you even care?
There are already several threads about this in P&N. No need to start more.
Where is this forum located?
Originally posted by: UFOfreak
Originally posted by: FoBoT
i believe in normal natural global climate cycles
i don't believe that man-made stuff is significantly accelerating the current normal/natural warming trend that we are in
Ok so if all of greenland melted and rose the sea level 20 feet you would not be effected? Even if you don't live on the coast you still will be effected in one way or another. A lot of cities will have to be left forever becasue they will be underwater. London, Miami, etc
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: UFOfreak
Originally posted by: FoBoT
i believe in normal natural global climate cycles
i don't believe that man-made stuff is significantly accelerating the current normal/natural warming trend that we are in
Ok so if all of greenland melted and rose the sea level 20 feet you would not be effected? Even if you don't live on the coast you still will be effected in one way or another. A lot of cities will have to be left forever becasue they will be underwater. London, Miami, etc
i don't see your point
you want to make a weather machine that can stop the next ice age? good luck
Originally posted by: destrekor
its real, its happening, and i don't care because the human species likely will not be killed off due to how spread out we are across the globe. reason i don't care is because mankind at its current state pretty much deserves it, due to how far removed we are from integration with nature, as every other species is. we are basically large versions of a virus and sadly there are very few things that can keep us in check. thankfully this global warming thing might have its chance, as long as it can bring about an ice age at least.
i think we may just be past the tipping point and just have to wait out the results as well. there really isn't anything we can do, because as long as we allow China to continue to develop and consume large amounts of coal in every new coal plant they bring on-line, then any progress we make in the rest of the world will be meaningless based on estimates of how much China will contribute to the overall global CO2 concentration. nor is there anything we can do to possibly stop CO2 production in the next 20 years due to the vast infrastructure currently in place. it's just not possible. and in the next two decades is probably when everything will be set in stone regarding our future as a species.
my advice? don't worry about it. live life as you do now.
i have no hope left as far as mankind goes. if we succeed to stop it, then we need to change our habits drastically, regarding how we integrate and cooperate with nature. if we can't live in harmony with the planet, then whose to say we can survive that much longer after this attempt by nature to change us?
and if an ice age happens, hopefully the survivors can learn that they need to help mankind change drastically and move towards a new way of life.
we will likely end up being like all those aliens in the movies who move from planet to planet, consuming resources, before we could ever move on and away from having to constantly consume what the planet offers and never restore it.
Originally posted by: destrekor
we are basically large versions of a virus and sadly there are very few things that can keep us in check.
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: destrekor
its real, its happening, and i don't care because the human species likely will not be killed off due to how spread out we are across the globe. reason i don't care is because mankind at its current state pretty much deserves it, due to how far removed we are from integration with nature, as every other species is. we are basically large versions of a virus and sadly there are very few things that can keep us in check. thankfully this global warming thing might have its chance, as long as it can bring about an ice age at least.
i think we may just be past the tipping point and just have to wait out the results as well. there really isn't anything we can do, because as long as we allow China to continue to develop and consume large amounts of coal in every new coal plant they bring on-line, then any progress we make in the rest of the world will be meaningless based on estimates of how much China will contribute to the overall global CO2 concentration. nor is there anything we can do to possibly stop CO2 production in the next 20 years due to the vast infrastructure currently in place. it's just not possible. and in the next two decades is probably when everything will be set in stone regarding our future as a species.
my advice? don't worry about it. live life as you do now.
i have no hope left as far as mankind goes. if we succeed to stop it, then we need to change our habits drastically, regarding how we integrate and cooperate with nature. if we can't live in harmony with the planet, then whose to say we can survive that much longer after this attempt by nature to change us?
and if an ice age happens, hopefully the survivors can learn that they need to help mankind change drastically and move towards a new way of life.
we will likely end up being like all those aliens in the movies who move from planet to planet, consuming resources, before we could ever move on and away from having to constantly consume what the planet offers and never restore it.
Been watching the Matrix?
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: destrekor
we are basically large versions of a virus and sadly there are very few things that can keep us in check.
100% wrong. We are nothing like a virus. If you want to compare, we are similar to ant colonies.
Originally posted by: UFOfreak
Do you believe that global warming is real now and willing to change so it won't effect you, your children, and grand children? Do you even care?
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: destrekor
its real, its happening, and i don't care because the human species likely will not be killed off due to how spread out we are across the globe. reason i don't care is because mankind at its current state pretty much deserves it, due to how far removed we are from integration with nature, as every other species is. we are basically large versions of a virus and sadly there are very few things that can keep us in check. thankfully this global warming thing might have its chance, as long as it can bring about an ice age at least.
i think we may just be past the tipping point and just have to wait out the results as well. there really isn't anything we can do, because as long as we allow China to continue to develop and consume large amounts of coal in every new coal plant they bring on-line, then any progress we make in the rest of the world will be meaningless based on estimates of how much China will contribute to the overall global CO2 concentration. nor is there anything we can do to possibly stop CO2 production in the next 20 years due to the vast infrastructure currently in place. it's just not possible. and in the next two decades is probably when everything will be set in stone regarding our future as a species.
my advice? don't worry about it. live life as you do now.
i have no hope left as far as mankind goes. if we succeed to stop it, then we need to change our habits drastically, regarding how we integrate and cooperate with nature. if we can't live in harmony with the planet, then whose to say we can survive that much longer after this attempt by nature to change us?
and if an ice age happens, hopefully the survivors can learn that they need to help mankind change drastically and move towards a new way of life.
we will likely end up being like all those aliens in the movies who move from planet to planet, consuming resources, before we could ever move on and away from having to constantly consume what the planet offers and never restore it.
Been watching the Matrix?
haven't watched it in a long while
but the famous Agent Smith quote is rather true of our species. think about it and look outward towards the human race, almost as if looking down on it. then stop and think about their behavior.
it's a Rousseau style of thought, and its very true. but the movie didn't make me think about that. i only thought of that quote after you remind me of it. it's something i've kind of felt for awhile now: mankind needs a refresher and start over, in much smaller numbers than currently exist.
Originally posted by: destrekor
ant colonies don't dig up and consume natural resources and never replace what was used. ant colonies don't move into an area, consume everything it has to offer, and move on.