Globalization

MustPost

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How do you feel about globalization. Do you feel its a good thing, or is destroying the world?
 

Czar

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its something the world is moving slowly towards, something we cant stop, something that must be done right
 

hagbard

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Its fine, so long as it isn't used as a tool for empire building by you know who.

Anyway, if you want true economic globalization and free trade, governments simply need to stop being protectionist and open their borders to trade. What kills me is guys like GWB going down to South American preaching "Free Trade" while slapping Canada with a softwood lumber tariff at the very same time.
 

Scarpozzi

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The problem with Globalization is that 3rd world countries are going to continue to advance and go through similar industrial revolutions the US and Europe went through. However, the lack of education will spark barriers and create or redefine class systems. These will raise hostilities and there will be a lot of problems as a result of the forward progress. You'll just see a spread of countries being used for the different resources they have to offer.
 

hagbard

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Originally posted by: Peetoeng
Originally posted by: MustPost
How do you feel about globalization. Do you feel its a good thing, or is destroying the world?

It's inevitable.

One could argue that we've been moving toward globalization from the time we first started trading with "outsiders". Its going to happen, its a part of human social evolution.
 

WinkOsmosis

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Globalization is a bigger problem than most of us realize, and it's not because of "imperialism". I'll explain more after my anthropology final.
1) Makes the American poor poorer. You may not want those factory jobs, but the people you condemn as lazy because they are on welfware wouldn't mind factory work.
2) Corrupts and undermines the governments of 3rd world countries by calling their minimum wage, safety, and environmental regulations "unfair to business".
3) Forces changes onto countries that are unwanted by the general population, like the destruction of small farms by plantations. Now the poor starve while the food they process and the products they grow are exported.

Globalization is bad for everyone except the richest people in the first world. Coincidentally, these are the people who control government.
 

hagbard

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Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Globalization is a bigger problem than most of us realize, and it's not because of "imperialism". I'll explain more after my anthropology final.
1) Makes the American poor poorer. You may not want those factory jobs, but the people you condemn as lazy because they are on welfware wouldn't mind factory work.
2) Corrupts and undermines the governments of 3rd world countries by calling their minimum wage, safety, and environmental regulations "unfair to business".
3) Forces changes onto countries that are unwanted by the general population, like the destruction of small farms by plantations. Now the poor starve while the food they process and the products they grow are exported.

Globalization is bad for everyone except the richest people in the first world. Coincidentally, these are the people who control government.

I'd call you a commie, except even Marx would disagree you

 

Booster

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How do you feel about globalization. Do you feel its a good thing, or is destroying the world?

Of course it will eventually destroy the world. People in poor countries are really pissed b/c they can't get nothing, they work almost for free. And it's not b/c they're worse or more stupid. That is a real danger, IMO. Back in the days prior to globalizing they didn't really care but now they want exactly the same what people have in richer contries.
 

Dacalo

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Globalization is detrimental because the world becomes homogenized, instead of being unique. Go to europe, you see macdonalds, go to asia you see macdonalds.
 

MustPost

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Originally posted by: Dacalo
Globalization is detrimental because the world becomes homogenized, instead of being unique. Go to europe, you see macdonalds, go to asia you see macdonalds.

I know this thread has been dead for a while, but could people respond to this statement. I think I disagree with it. I don't see how having McDonalds everywhere is really that bad.

 

TheShiz

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to understand that statement I think you would have to live before and after it. One of my friends is from germany, and he said that when wal-mart moved in it seemed things had changed. Imagine if it were the other way around, and you lived in a smaller country and foreign influence exploded, I can't really imagine it myself having lived in the US my whole life.

Tim
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: MustPost
Originally posted by: Dacalo
Globalization is detrimental because the world becomes homogenized, instead of being unique. Go to europe, you see macdonalds, go to asia you see macdonalds.

I know this thread has been dead for a while, but could people respond to this statement. I think I disagree with it. I don't see how having McDonalds everywhere is really that bad.

The problem there arises when McDonalds (or WalMart, or ?) becomes so successful that it displaces indigenous culture. The spark that drives Western society often isn't present in those native cultures, and they become doomed to be forever subsumed into an ever larger homogenous pap of Britney Spears, Coke, Hollywood, Microsoft...
 

UltraQuiet

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Originally posted by: hagbard
Its fine, so long as it isn't used as a tool for empire building by you know who.

Anyway, if you want true economic globalization and free trade, governments simply need to stop being protectionist and open their borders to trade. What kills me is guys like GWB going down to South American preaching "Free Trade" while slapping Canada with a softwood lumber tariff at the very same time.

The softwood tariff leveled an uneven playing field created by the Canadian gov't which sells lumber to private mills well below market value.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Globalization is a bigger problem than most of us realize, and it's not because of "imperialism". I'll explain more after my anthropology final.
1) Makes the American poor poorer. You may not want those factory jobs, but the people you condemn as lazy because they are on welfware wouldn't mind factory work.
2) Corrupts and undermines the governments of 3rd world countries by calling their minimum wage, safety, and environmental regulations "unfair to business".
3) Forces changes onto countries that are unwanted by the general population, like the destruction of small farms by plantations. Now the poor starve while the food they process and the products they grow are exported.

Globalization is bad for everyone except the richest people in the first world. Coincidentally, these are the people who control government.

maybe those people in the third world want those factory jobs? corrupt gov'ts aren't a problem of trade, they've been around far longer. probably have been corrupt since the first time anyone ever thought of having a gov't. as for change unwanted by the general population, theres been lots of that for a long time, both for good and bad.
 
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