GM's new "performance" line

RU482

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Just reading threw some GM news, and ran across an article for their new performace group.

they listed the following models in the article, and quoted an '04 debut:

Cadillac CTS V-Series - "V-Series" is Cadillac's new performance designation, much like "M" is BMW's. The CTS V-Series sedan will be the first of GM's new line of high-performance luxury vehicles. The car will feature a V-8 with nearly 400 hp, a six-speed manual transmission and 18-inch wheels.

Pontiac Bonneville GXP - GXP will be the designation for Pontiac performance vehicles. First up will be the limited-edition Bonneville GXP. It will feature a 4.4-liter V-8 producing nearly 300 hp. Although the car's sheet metal will be unchanged from the 2003 Bonneville, its new look will be achieved by eliminating body cladding and adopting different front and rear styling. The grille draws inspiration from the Pontiac Solstice concept car, as will future Pontiac models.

The Grand Prix GXP will follow, and later will come the Grand Am GXP, which will be based on the next-generation Grand Am. No time period was given for the cars' introduction. A Vibe GXP and a Sunfire GXP also are under discussion, both with supercharged four-cylinder engines.


Chevrolet SS - Chevrolet is using its SS performance designation from the 1960s and 1970s. Show cars debuting here that likely will go into production in approximately 18 months include the TrailBlazer SS, Tahoe SS and Silverado Regular Cab SS. Each truck features a 6.0-liter V-8 with horsepower ranging from 345 to 395, depending on the model. Also, the suspension on each truck is lowered anywhere from 1.5 to 4 inches.

Saturn Ion - While the name for Saturn's performance models has yet to be determined, the first car to get horsepower, handling and braking enhancements will be the Ion. The car's Ecotec 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine will top 200 hp

You might dislike GM, but you gotta admit they are changing the way they do business
redly1 puts on flamesuit...
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Thats nice as long as they can make a car that can go in something other than a straight line
 

vi edit

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Nice drivetrains....now if they'd just do something about the rest of the cars.

Horrid seating positions, gawd aweful interiors, and numb steering.
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Nice drivetrains....now if they'd just do something about the rest of the cars.

Horrid seating positions, gawd aweful interiors, and numb steering.

Not to mention styling by Mattel
 

Swanny

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Why put the Super Sport designation on pickups and SUVs? It just ruins the point.

EDIT: New Cavaliers look awesome
 

N8Magic

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I notice that with the exception of the CTS-V, all of these high powered monsters are front-wheel-drive.

Holy torque steer Batman! :Q
 

ElFenix

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how are they cramming a 6 liter v8 in the trailblazer? i don't remember that much room in there...
 

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Originally posted by: N8Magic
I notice that with the exception of the CTS-V, all of these high powered monsters are front-wheel-drive.

Holy torque steer Batman! :Q

The thought of a FWD 275HP Grand Am is scary.

 

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The CTS V should be nice. My parents own a regular CTS, and I think it's pretty nice, if not all the way up to BMW quality. More power is always appreciated. But damn it, we don't want the Bonneville with a Solstice derived grille, we want the Solstice itself!
 

N8Magic

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After actually reading the article and viewing the pictures, i'll believe the stats of these models when I see them on the showroom floor.
 

Zenmervolt

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*checks pics*

Nope, still ugly. Though it's nice to see that Pontiac is finally getting rid of their tradition of putting 250 lbs worth of plastic on the bottom half of their cars.

From the Pics page:
A 262-hp Cavalier? The Ecotec-powered Cavalier shown here gets supercharging to reach the near-mythic mark.
Just what I've always wanted, 262 hp worth of torque steer.

GM had a lot of real winners back in the 1950s through the early 1970's, it's a shame that nothing they make now looks that good.

ZV
 

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Cadillac CTS V-Series - "V-Series" is Cadillac's new performance designation, much like "M" is BMW's. The CTS V-Series sedan will be the first of GM's new line of high-performance luxury vehicles. The car will feature a V-8 with nearly 400 hp, a six-speed manual transmission and 18-inch wheels.
I can hardly wait to see how many six-speed manual Cadillacs they sell.
 

Zenmervolt

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*looks at pics again*

I can't believe that he called those cars "new". All they did was slap some different sheet metal on them. It's completely obvious that they are based on the designs that came out in '95. To anyone who thinks that those are new designs, I've got a 486 in a brand new cool-looking case to sell you.

ZV
 

bizmark

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Originally posted by: Swanny
Why put the Super Sport designation on pickups and SUVs? It just ruins the point.

EDIT: New Cavaliers look awesome

SS Silverados have been around for a while.... I don't know why the article said the SS designation comes from the 60s and 70s. It's been used consistently at least in the 90s (SS Silverado, SS Camaro/Z28)
 

RU482

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I can't believe that he called those cars "new". All they did was slap some different sheet metal on them. It's completely obvious that they are based on the designs that came out in '95. To anyone who thinks that those are new designs, I've got a 486 in a brand new cool-looking case to sell you.

ZV

Uh, what else constitutes a new model? besides sheetmetal and better drivertrains and updated (while maybe unsatisfactory to some) interiors??

 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: redly1
I can't believe that he called those cars "new". All they did was slap some different sheet metal on them. It's completely obvious that they are based on the designs that came out in '95. To anyone who thinks that those are new designs, I've got a 486 in a brand new cool-looking case to sell you.

ZV

Uh, what else constitutes a new model? besides sheetmetal and better drivertrains and updated (while maybe unsatisfactory to some) interiors??

Something that came out originally in '95 can hardly be called new for '03. Hell, it's still using the same interior from '95.

Honda and Toyota TOTALLY redesign their cars every 4 years with a refresh after 2 years.
 

isekii

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I swear each year Pontiac manages to come up with the ugliest cars~

wait wait wait.. the Fugliest cars every year~

Starting out from the Azztek to what the hell is that that NFS4 linked ?

GM needs better designers~ IMO If it were them.. i bet you they wouldn't be driving one of those things~
 

andylawcc

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whao, what happen to the new 5.7L "GTO"/firebird re-incarnate? ??


and the Ion and Cavailer looks very nice to me too...


Sunfire is assss..


and I wonder which engine will they use in the Vibe GXP? still Toyota's own 1.8 or the ecotec's...
 
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