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Vette73

Lifer
Jul 5, 2000
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Every court case I have heard allows women to be topless. There might be some lower court rulings that say other wise but haveing any law that allows men to be topless but not women usually if not always is thrown out.
 

jaqie

Platinum Member
Apr 6, 2008
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From a different perspective. Mine.
All (at least 95% so far) of you seem quite self-centered, talking about how this will effect you even though I don't see many (or any) posts at this point looking like they came from a woman. Take a few things into account that no one seems to have mentioned.
First, the western world and specifically USA seems to have a huge idea that the nipple, not the breast is what should never be seen in public - the evidence is everywhere, and I am amazed no one has said anything about this yet in this thread. There are even lines of bras designed specifically to show lots of breast, but take extra steps to hide the appearans of the nipple through the clothes.
Second, it seems most men have no idea how sensetive this tissue is, and that combined with the mass that is there makes it very difficult to be able to be comfortable at the same time as having proper support. Until I finally found a few bras that fit exceptionally well, every day I could not wait to get home and remove the damn thing because it became so uncomfortable to be stuffed into one. The best analogy I can think of for a male is imagine you are wearing an extremely tight set of biker shorts that is constantly riding up and chafing your inner legs at the same time uncomfortably pressing your sexual organs into your body all day. Even now that I have some bras that fit me well (which is a lot more difficult to do then any man I ever talked to about it has realized), there is still the compression which when i get home I am quite eager to remove and just wear a T shirt and jeans for a while.
And then there is the weather issue. These things get cold quite easily, and again the tissue is very sensetive not only to cold but also to, say, brushing against objects such as doors (which women tend to do sometimes when they are still developing and getting used to protecting that area which we didn't have to before). I would *NOT* want to feel a cool chicago morning on that area, or god forbid have to run without some support, let me tell you that hurts. badly.

And for the *ahem* less mature readers, before you even start, I will not respond to the *ahem* less mature questions or comments. Keep your hormones to yourself.
 

meltdown75

Lifer
Nov 17, 2004
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Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: dennilfloss
Originally posted by: meltdown75
it's ok to whip the titties out here in Canada, although i've only seen one lady walking down the street with her bewbies out in the last 10 years or so.


Only seen about three in the last 10 years also.
you guys are obviously not in the right places. I see them all the time during the summer after last call.
ah, gotcha. i stopped going to bars years ago, but if i do go nowadays, it is many hours before last call
 

Red

Diamond Member
Aug 22, 2002
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Originally posted by: jaqie
From a different perspective. Mine.
All (at least 95% so far) of you seem quite self-centered, talking about how this will effect you even though I don't see many (or any) posts at this point looking like they came from a woman. Take a few things into account that no one seems to have mentioned.
First, the western world and specifically USA seems to have a huge idea that the nipple, not the breast is what should never be seen in public - the evidence is everywhere, and I am amazed no one has said anything about this yet in this thread. There are even lines of bras designed specifically to show lots of breast, but take extra steps to hide the appearans of the nipple through the clothes.
Second, it seems most men have no idea how sensetive this tissue is, and that combined with the mass that is there makes it very difficult to be able to be comfortable at the same time as having proper support. Until I finally found a few bras that fit exceptionally well, every day I could not wait to get home and remove the damn thing because it became so uncomfortable to be stuffed into one. The best analogy I can think of for a male is imagine you are wearing an extremely tight set of biker shorts that is constantly riding up and chafing your inner legs at the same time uncomfortably pressing your sexual organs into your body all day. Even now that I have some bras that fit me well (which is a lot more difficult to do then any man I ever talked to about it has realized), there is still the compression which when i get home I am quite eager to remove and just wear a T shirt and jeans for a while.
And then there is the weather issue. These things get cold quite easily, and again the tissue is very sensetive not only to cold but also to, say, brushing against objects such as doors (which women tend to do sometimes when they are still developing and getting used to protecting that area which we didn't have to before). I would *NOT* want to feel a cool chicago morning on that area, or god forbid have to run without some support, let me tell you that hurts. badly.

And for the *ahem* less mature readers, before you even start, I will not respond to the *ahem* less mature questions or comments. Keep your hormones to yourself.

pics or shens
 

ArizonaSteve

Senior member
Dec 20, 2003
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I wonder if the number of car accidents will go up as a result of drivers not keeping their eyes on the road.
 

jaqie

Platinum Member
Apr 6, 2008
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You'll notice your post has the exact same time as mine. think about what that means.
 

nonameo

Diamond Member
Mar 13, 2006
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Jaquie: This is why I advocate that men ONLY reproduce with small chested women. Eventually large breasted genes will be weeded out of the gene pool, thus alleviating the problem.
 

jaqie

Platinum Member
Apr 6, 2008
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nonameo: that simply won't work. Why? human reproductive psychology.
There are some very good documentaries about this, the main theory is that it is easier to tell a woman's age and thus verility (think in a caveman setting, where we all evolved into the basics of what we are today) when she has larger mammary glands, as they are more succeptible to "change with age", so this became a preference in the males because it made their prospective mates easier to ascertain their verility/age/etc. Even in these modern times, the average women's bust size is increasing at a steady rate because the programming is still there.
There is an african bird (IIRC) that has a three foot long tail - it is a male, and it got that way because the females of that species tended to like longer tails and be attracted to the male that had the longer tail. This is just one example, nature is frought with examples of this kind of trait, and like it or not we are still biological animals with the same preprogramming of our ancestors though we like to deny this fact as a species at every available opportunity.

So in short: nonameo, it ain't gonna happen because that's just how we evolved as a species.
 

nonameo

Diamond Member
Mar 13, 2006
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Originally posted by: jaqie
nonameo: that simply won't work. Why? human reproductive psychology.
There are some very good documentaries about this, the main theory is that it is easier to tell a woman's age and thus verility (think in a caveman setting, where we all evolved into the basics of what we are today) when she has larger mammary glands, as they are more succeptible to "change with age", so this became a preference in the males because it made their prospective mates easier to ascertain their verility/age/etc. Even in these modern times, the average women's bust size is increasing at a steady rate because the programming is still there.
There is an african bird (IIRC) that has a three foot long tail - it is a male, and it got that way because the females of that species tended to like longer tails and be attracted to the male that had the longer tail. This is just one example, nature is frought with examples of this kind of trait, and like it or not we are still biological animals with the same preprogramming of our ancestors though we like to deny this fact as a species at every available opportunity.

So in short: nonameo, it ain't gonna happen because that's just how we evolved as a species.

Jaquie:

Are you implying that humans have no self control? That seems to be what you are advocating. Who cares about how we came about. The human race can control its destiny.
 

jaqie

Platinum Member
Apr 6, 2008
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Really? news to me, looks like we don't even control our burning of carbon compounds for fuel or control our own populace from anarchish acts (check out how crowded prisons are).

You seem to be suggesting that I meant it is impossible to control... there is a huge difference between can't and don't.
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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Women with boobs showing would cause a huge increase in traffic accidents nation-wide.
 

jaqie

Platinum Member
Apr 6, 2008
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not really, just the idi...er...people using cellphones and having accidents would be looking instead of using cellphones. Kinda already happens in urban areas, as I have said the breasts are shown all over and it is expected, just not the nipples.
 

Nitemare

Lifer
Feb 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: Bateluer
There are some women I don't want running around topless in public, just as there are men that I don't want running around without shirts.

yet those hairy fat men have no problem showing off their moobs today.

Originally posted by: Fritzo
Women with boobs showing would cause a huge increase in traffic accidents nation-wide.

Not if they were an everyday occurrence. I'm sure seeing a woman in a mini back in the 40's would have caused a traffic accident as well.
 

3NF

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Feb 5, 2005
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Nice to see a woman's point of view, although I'm not sure if I got whether or not she agrees/disagrees

On the topic of NSFW, I was really surprised that the moderator locked another thread of mine related to clitoraid saying that it is not NSFW. Neither that, or gotopless, should be considered NSFW. It's very sad that we live in a society where people are so sheepish to follow the flock of what is deemed to be right or wrong. Don't be normal, people. Normal people generally don't make a difference in today's society. Be different, stand out of the crowd and make change
 
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Lola

I for one support that choice for women, however, the same is said about naturists. Nudists stop seeing the body as a sexual device because they see it all of time time. It no longer holds this "special" thought or idea and in turn, men don't get arroused by seeing nude women walking around.

Now I am not saying that we should be "puritanical" about it, but when you see something long enough, it loses its mystique.
So, if women were eventually comfortable enough to go out in public after a while it would not be a big deal anymore... which could be good or bad.

Even with clothes on men AND women stare at me, and I accept I did that to myself, but until I know people would not just be staring at my naked chest, I think I will keep the toplessness to my own home.

I somewhat disagree with Jaqie... I don't want a bra to be comfortable or for support and don't care about the idea of being cold or too hot. At least when it is cold, even saggy looking breasts look better "cooler". All that matters is that there are no restrictions making it uncomfortable.

So, I hope some of you see some women "celebrating" but I highly doubt that will happen. Too bad too. No bra, no shirt, no anything = 100% comfortable
 

jaqie

Platinum Member
Apr 6, 2008
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As for where I stand on the issue: I'm pretty neutral on the issue, but I personally would only go braless with a T shirt if I had a choice... but without support if I even try to hurriedly walk they end up hurting, so I gotta stay with at least a sports bra. I still think it's very strange that sports bra is considered indecent exposure while two piece bikinis are not... never made sense to me. If I could go around with a sports bra and some shorts on, I would probably do that during the summer.
 

Nitemare

Lifer
Feb 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: jaqie
As for where I stand on the issue: I'm pretty neutral on the issue, but I personally would only go braless with a T shirt if I had a choice... but without support if I even try to hurriedly walk they end up hurting, so I gotta stay with at least a sports bra. I still think it's very strange that sports bra is considered indecent exposure while two piece bikinis are not... never made sense to me. If I could go around with a sports bra and some shorts on, I would probably do that during the summer.

Since when is a sports bra considered indecent exposure? I see them at the gym all the time.
 
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Lola

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: jaqie
As for where I stand on the issue: I'm pretty neutral on the issue, but I personally would only go braless with a T shirt if I had a choice... but without support if I even try to hurriedly walk they end up hurting, so I gotta stay with at least a sports bra. I still think it's very strange that sports bra is considered indecent exposure while two piece bikinis are not... never made sense to me. If I could go around with a sports bra and some shorts on, I would probably do that during the summer.

Since when is a sports bra considered indecent exposure? I see them at the gym all the time.

Don't know. I see them around as well and would not take a second look at seeing one "out and about"... well... unless... nevermind. I will leave it at that.

 
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