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apoppin

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: NFS4
Dude, why in the fvck would you want to fvck your sister? Good gawd that is just beyond reproach. And people in here don't seem to have a problem with it morally????:Q:Q:Q:Q:|

What if this bastard had been caught fvcking his (hypothetical) 25 year old daughter? Would you feel the same?

i wouldn't - even if i had one . . . but i don't care what brothers and sisters do in OTHER families [hopefully it is safe sex]. why should YOU care? it's not "in front of" you. . . . you are not forced to watch.

And SO WHAT if a man or woman has sex with his mentally sound consenting ADULT son or daughter? Why does it bother you what OTHER people do?

I can't believe I'm hearing this...my brain is on overload.

**MAKE IT STOP**MAKE IT STOP**

just 'cause you may be "cloistered" dsoesn't mean the rest of us are.

OTHER than a religious reason - why do YOU even care?

and do you think they should GET TEN YEARS IN JAIL for incest?
:thumbsdown:

You cared enough (as did I) to reply to this thread. Do you watch the news? Does every story that comes across the screen invoke this reponse from you ("I don't care, not my business"). I'm sorry, but I'm not that apathetic. Let's say that news comes across the screen that a 17 year old boy beats the sh!t out of his 16 year old brother? Do you just say, "Fvck it, I don't know those bastards" or do you feel some kind of hurt or pain for the party that has been wronged?

Sh!tty things happen all the time and different people have different ways of expressing their disdain for what goes on in the world. Neither party in this case may have "wronged" each other sense it was consentual, but I personally think that fvcking a relative is downright evil and beyond reproach and I react as such.

As for the 10 years in jail, that's damn harsh but he shouldn't have been fvcking his sister.
who says "he shouldn't have been fvcking his sister"? You? Why are your morals the ones by which the world must be judged by?

Evil, huh . . . so it IS religious.

The brother beaten up is NOT THE SAME as "victimless incest" [period].

Try another example.
 

QuitBanningMe

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You cared enough (as did I) to reply to this thread. Do you watch the news? Does every story that comes across the screen invoke this reponse from you ("I don't care, not my business"). I'm sorry, but I'm not that apathetic. Let's say that news comes across the screen that a 17 year old boy beats the sh!t out of his 16 year old brother? Do you just say, "Fvck it, I don't know those bastards" or do you feel some kind of hurt or pain for the party that has been wronged?

Sh!tty things happen all the time and different people have different ways of expressing their disdain for what goes on in the world. Neither party in this case may have "wronged" each other sense it was consentual, but I personally think that fvcking a relative is downright evil and beyond reproach and I react as such.

As for the 10 years in jail, that's damn harsh but he shouldn't have been fvcking his sister.


Why do you feel this way?
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: apoppin
who says "he shouldn't have been fvcking his sister"? You? Why are your morals the ones by which the world must be judged by?

Evil, huh . . . so it IS religious.

The brother beaten up is NOT THE SAME as "victimless incest" [period].

Try another example.

You said why should I care what happens in another person's home. I was just stating an example as such. Are you apathetic to every news story that you hear come across the tube? Do you not feel hurt/pain/sorrow/hatred for someone or some particular event when you hear it on TV or read it in the newspaper? That's what I'm getting at. I think it's downright hard for a person to simply say "Ahh, their business" without having some sort of opinion on the matter for themselves.

This was a news story about what was going on between two people...two relatives. Of course I could say "Fvck it, it's their business" but I can't wrap my mind around the thought of a brother and sister fvcking. I just can't. No more than I can think of the thought of my GF fvcking her brother; my best friend. It is just fvcking disgusting.
 
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: apoppin
who says "he shouldn't have been fvcking his sister"? You? Why are your morals the ones by which the world must be judged by?

Evil, huh . . . so it IS religious.

The brother beaten up is NOT THE SAME as "victimless incest" [period].

Try another example.

You said why should I care what happens in another person's home. I was just stating an example as such. Are you apathetic to every news story that you hear come across the tube? Do you not feel hurt/pain/sorrow/hatred for someone or some particular event when you hear it on TV or read it in the newspaper? That's what I'm getting at. I think it's downright hard for a person to simply say "Ahh, their business" without having some sort of opinion on the matter for themselves.

This was a news story about what was going on between two people...two relatives. Of course I could say "Fvck it, it's their business" but I can't wrap my mind around the thought of a brother and sister fvcking. I just can't. No more than I can think of the thought of my GF fvcking her brother; my best friend. It is just fvcking disgusting.

I think apoppin's point here was that there is no "victim" here to feel sorry for. If it truly is consensual (which as far as I can tell, it seems to have been in the article posted in this thread anyway), then what exactly is the problem with it? Sure, you may think it's disgusting (hell, I do as well for what it's worth), but is its "disgusting-ness" enough justification for it being illegal and punishable by 10 years of jail time?
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: apoppin
who says "he shouldn't have been fvcking his sister"? You? Why are your morals the ones by which the world must be judged by?

Evil, huh . . . so it IS religious.

The brother beaten up is NOT THE SAME as "victimless incest" [period].

Try another example.

You said why should I care what happens in another person's home. I was just stating an example as such. Are you apathetic to every news story that you hear come across the tube? Do you not feel hurt/pain/sorrow/hatred for someone or some particular event when you hear it on TV or read it in the newspaper? That's what I'm getting at. I think it's downright hard for a person to simply say "Ahh, their business" without having some sort of opinion on the matter for themselves.

This was a news story about what was going on between two people...two relatives. Of course I could say "Fvck it, it's their business" but I can't wrap my mind around the thought of a brother and sister fvcking. I just can't. No more than I can think of the thought of my GF fvcking her brother; my best friend. It is just fvcking disgusting.

I think apoppin's point here was that there is no "victim" here to feel sorry for. If it truly is consensual (which as far as I can tell, it seems to have been in the article posted in this thread anyway), then what exactly is the problem with it? Sure, you may think it's disgusting (hell, I do as well for what it's worth), but is its "disgusting-ness" enough for it being illegal and punishable by 10 years of jail time?

I don't think it should be a punishable offense by law...but I also don't think that it's right either. Then again, if had been fvcking his wife instead, he wouldn't be in this situation.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: apoppin
who says "he shouldn't have been fvcking his sister"? You? Why are your morals the ones by which the world must be judged by?

Evil, huh . . . so it IS religious.

The brother beaten up is NOT THE SAME as "victimless incest" [period].

Try another example.

You said why should I care what happens in another person's home. I was just stating an example as such. Are you apathetic to every news story that you hear come across the tube? Do you not feel hurt/pain/sorrow/hatred for someone or some particular event when you hear it on TV or read it in the newspaper? That's what I'm getting at. I think it's downright hard for a person to simply say "Ahh, their business" without having some sort of opinion on the matter for themselves.

This was a news story about what was going on between two people...two relatives. Of course I could say "Fvck it, it's their business" but I can't wrap my mind around the thought of a brother and sister fvcking. I just can't. No more than I can think of the thought of my GF fvcking her brother; my best friend. It is just fvcking disgusting.

ok, so it's 'personal' . . .

so my opinion is personal [also - everyone's is] and although i react feeling badly for VICTIMS i do not feel bad or disgusted in any way by what this "couple" did. There is no "crime" . . . there is no victim and - except for the BS laws of Alabama and police INTERFERENCE - we wouldn't even HEAR of it.
 

shimsham

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Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: shimsham
wold you care if it was your son or daughter fooling around with a 30yo man who you knew had no interest other than sex, and was filling your childs head full of bs just to get in their pants?

theres a big difference between 14 and 17, even 14 and 16. mentally, a lot of teens arent mature or experienced enough to enter into relationships with a 40, 30, or even 25 yo "adults" and may be easily manipulated and preyed upon.

i agree that charging an 18 yo with stat rape on his 16 yo gf is ridiculous, but it doesnt happen that much. many states have guidlines based on age difference to stop charges like that.

I would care if my son/daughter of any age was fooling around w/someone who had no interest in them other than sex.

as would i. but there is a difference between what a 16 and a 30 yo are capable of when it comes to manipulating a child.

IMO, theyre all the enemy when it comes to my children.

 

DAGTA

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Addressing the saying, "Government should not legislate morality":
If a government did not govern and form laws based on morality, we'd all be living in a state of anarchy. If you break it down, all laws are based on morality. Why are laws put into place? Generally to protect someone from 'getting harmed'. That's a moral judgment. Murder and stealing are illegal? Why? Because they're considered "wrong and harmful".

Saying, "The government shouldn't legislate morality." is just another cliche that people like to use in an attempt to oversimplify a complex issue or situation. Laws are based on morality and each law should require thought and debate before it is created or abolished.
 

illustri

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believing incest is wrong, being disgusted by it, and perhaps even actively protesting against it... these are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from making or supporting a law against it

my morality and my beliefs do not somehow require the approval of US law for them to be valid, they are strong enough on their own
 

GTaudiophile

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Why don't one of you google "incest" and go pay a visit to the incest online community and start posting there? See what makes them tick. If nothing else, might be an interesting case study.
 

illustri

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Why don't one of you google "incest" and go pay a visit to the incest online community and start posting there? See what makes them tick. If nothing else, might be an interesting case study.

this is the second time you've suggested this, are you trying to get more members to your incest forums, or just looking for converts to your new perversion
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
Addressing the saying, "Government should not legislate morality":
If a government did not govern and form laws based on morality, we'd all be living in a state of anarchy. If you break it down, all laws are based on morality. Why are laws put into place? Generally to protect someone from 'getting harmed'. That's a moral judgment. Murder and stealing are illegal? Why? Because they're considered "wrong and harmful".

Saying, "The government shouldn't legislate morality." is just another cliche that people like to use in an attempt to oversimplify a complex issue or situation. Laws are based on morality and each law should require thought and debate before it is created or abolished.
murder and stealing involve "crimes" against someone. . . . someone is "harmed" by these types of actions.

OTOH, consensual adult incest is not committed "against" anyone - it is strictly a "moral" decision and does NOT require legislation.
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Originally posted by: illustri
believing incest is wrong, being disgusted by it, and perhaps even actively protesting against it... these are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from making or supporting a law against it

my morality and my beliefs do not somehow require the approval of US law for them to be valid, they are strong enough on their own
well-said, from the 'other side', imo

expressing your strong beliefs is an American's right . . . not meddling with other people's freedom
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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Why don't one of you google "incest" and go pay a visit to the incest online community and start posting there? See what makes them tick. If nothing else, might be an interesting case study.
Why don't you?
:roll:
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: illustri
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Why don't one of you google "incest" and go pay a visit to the incest online community and start posting there? See what makes them tick. If nothing else, might be an interesting case study.

this is the second time you've suggested this, are you trying to get more members to your incest forums, or just looking for converts to your new perversion

YAIT.ORG?








 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Mill
Topic Title: God dang I love Alabama
Topic Summary: Man caught fvcking his sister -- only in 'Bama

How lovely!

Dang Red State

Yes, it's sick and there should be no children from such activity (because of a Genetic Scientific reason Red Staters and the Religious don't believe in) but should the consenting adults be arrested and Jailed for 10 years???

I believe it is still a crime for Oral Sex in Bama too.

There should be a Government Official posted in every bedroom and lock up every Baman that violates the Law.

Better start building a lot more prisons down there.

On the plus side people in prison cannot vote so that will add more Blue Northern State votes to the kitty next Election cycles :thumbsup:

it's a shame you are able to afford your internet connection. hasn't the evil W taken it away from you yet? or perhaps the evil georgia government? i might have to call my congressman and suggest it.

Ha, you haven't paid attention. I left the Delivereance State of Georgia nearly a year ago.

 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Dude, why in the fvck would you want to fvck your sister? Good gawd that is just beyond reproach. And people in here don't seem to have a problem with it morally????:Q:Q:Q:Q:|

What if this bastard had been caught fvcking his (hypothetical) 25 year old daughter? Would you feel the same?

If they both were mutually consenting adults, why should I (or you) care?
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: NFS4
Dude, why in the fvck would you want to fvck your sister? Good gawd that is just beyond reproach. And people in here don't seem to have a problem with it morally????:Q:Q:Q:Q:|

What if this bastard had been caught fvcking his (hypothetical) 25 year old daughter? Would you feel the same?

If they both were mutually consenting adults, why should I (or you) care?

I don't know how your family situation is, but let's make this hypothetical.

Let's say that you have a mom, a dad and a brother. Let's say that your mom decides that she wants to start fvcking your brother b/c he a nice, young handsome buck and she's tired of your dad's old balls. Your brother and your mom consent to it.

It's not happening under your roof...do you still not care? Sure, it's not the same as Jack and Jill (brother and sister fvcking up the street) but it's still the same principal.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: illustri
Originally posted by: daniel1113
The article is socking, but nowhere as shocking as some of the responses in this thread.

hey, i can respect your views or practices to the contrary, but in my opinion incest is wrong

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But my belief is that it is wrong to legislate this opinion, and force other people to comply with it.
 

StormRider

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When you think about it, if you have no problems with homosexuality then it's sort of hipocritical to be against sex between consenting *any* adults.

I personally think that homosexuality is not morally wrong but I don't hate people who do. I do think that homosexuality isn't right on a certain level (basically, it should be clear that men and women belong together -- the parts just don't "fit" right on a man and a man relationship) but it's normal on a higher level (God seems to have design the world to have variety -- variety is the spice of life).


Anyways, I think what some people are saying is:

if you think that consentual incest is digusting and wrong, then what makes you so different from people who think homosexuality is disgusting and wrong? And if you make hateful statements about such people then it's sort of like the pot calling the kettle black.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: b0mbrman

So outlaw that abuse then, not the consensual sex between two adults.

it is, but there is a giant proof problem.

So instead, let's convict these people of felonies, because they may have abused someone... yeah, that's a good idea. Let's throw the entire concept of "innocent until proven guilty" out the window.
 
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