God I hate summer

[IronWing]

This is why people used to have big families; the children were expected to shovel the snow. With global warming, the incentive to have large families is diminished.

 

[sdifox]

yeah see thats my point. it's not about how cold it gets, it's about how shit it is to live through it. same way that nobody complains about the heat when they are at the bahamas.
you post some kind of Winter Wonderland(tm) pictures, man, im talking get someone to throw a bucket of slushed turnpike black ice at yo'face then walk home kind-of-experience.

You know it is illegal to walk on turnpikes right?

 

[Captante]

You know it is illegal to walk on turnpikes right?

Not everywhere .... same with riding bicycles on the shoulder.

 

[sdifox]

Not everywhere .... same with riding bicycles on the shoulder.

 

[Captante]

In most cases the highways where it's "allowed" are lightly travelled AND have extra-wide shoulders.

Last one I personally encountered was in New Brunswick, Canada on a month + long bicycle tour.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I need to live there. Ugh two weeks of 102-103 forecast.

 

[Ajay]

I need to live there. Ugh two weeks of 102-103 forecast.

What’s the dew point? If it’s 50, I have no pity for you - if it’s 75, then I hope you win the lottery so you can move!

 

[SteveGrabowski]

What’s the dew point? If it’s 50, I have no pity for you - if it’s 75, then I hope you win the lottery so you can move!

Dewpoint is 76 right now but will probably drop to around 67-69 by the afternoon once it gets to 103-104. So quite humid but not as bad as last month when we had a few days that were like 101-102 with 77-78 dewpoint in the hot part of the day and 82-83 dewpoint at night. In that heat wave we set new all-time heat index records three times in a four day span and my neighborhood was seeing heat indices in the ~120-125F range. Heat indices in this wave have been around 110F, but it's supposed to last until the end of the month.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

What’s the dew point? If it’s 50, I have no pity for you - if it’s 75, then I hope you win the lottery so you can move!

Here we go... this was the worst day last month (June 21st). Temp of 105, dewpoint of 78 at the worst part of the day (which was a little after I posted this).

From the weather station a couple of blocks away

 

[Pohemi]

No one likes summer. They say they do cause they think that's what they're supposed to say, but when you break it down, people don't like anything that makes summer, summer.

I guess I'm no one.

Bitching about heat/summer...pbfft. Come experience winter here, and see how much you bitch about the summer heat back home.

46 degrees and rainy in Anchorage today. Not the South Florida summer I am used to. Freezing my ass off here.

Yep. I would MUCH rather tolerate Texas heat in the summer, than the kind of cold that we get in the winter here. I've been waiting for some real heat all summer and we've yet to get any in my town. We've had less than 5 days that broke 80F.

I miss the 90+ degree with 90%+ humidity that they get just an hour or two away (more the heat than the humidity of course.)

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I miss the 90+ degree with 90%+ humidity that they get just an hour or two away (more the heat than the humidity of course.)

I'm going to have to call BS on 90 degree heat with 90% humidity unless the Saudi side of the Persian Gulf is where you're talking about an hour or two away.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Bitching about heat/summer...pbfft. Come experience winter here, and see how much you bitch about the summer heat back home.

Also a lot of my b---hing is about how much worse the heat has become in just the last 15 years. San Antonio broke a 50 year record for most days of 100+ in 1998, as 1998 was such an insanely hot year for its time that Republicans used to always use it as the starting year in their graphs to argue global warming wasn't happening. Well we broke that number again in 2009, 2011, 2013, 2020, 2022, and given the pattern we're currently in and forecast to be in for the rest of the month we'll almost certainly break that number again this year despite it being a strong El Nino year with El Nino typically corresponding to cooler summers in Texas. I know people will say urban heat island, but the same thing is happening in small towns around here too.

 

[Ajay]

Here we go... this was the worst day last month (June 21st). Temp of 105, dewpoint of 78 at the worst part of the day (which was a little after I posted this).

Yeah, no way. I’m from northern New England. Dew point of 73 with a temp of 90F last week left me running from air conditioning to air conditioning. 15 minutes outside was a definite eff this from me. If I spent more time outside, I’d probably handle it better.

 

[Pohemi]

I'm going to have to call BS on 90 degree heat with 90% humidity unless the Saudi side of the Persian Gulf is where you're talking about an hour or two away.

Hate to break it to you, but those conditions are not exclusive to the Persian Gulf. Try the northern Midwest (around the Great Lakes) sometime during a hot spell. Or how about the swamps/bayou in the deep south? No need to visit the middle east for that weather.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Hate to break it to you, but those conditions are not exclusive to the Persian Gulf. Try the northern Midwest (around the Great Lakes) sometime during a hot spell. Or how about the swamps/bayou in the deep south? No need to visit the middle east for that weather.

Nope I'm calling BS. I don't believe for a second that dewpoints of 87F, which would be 90% humidity at 90 degrees, are anything close to common around the Great Lakes.

 

[Pohemi]

"During a hot spell". I didn't say it was common, but it happens.

My point was that I'd rather have those hot, swampy days than the -10F with 40mph winds that we get in winter. I do NOT handle cold well, never have.

 

[nakedfrog]

"During a hot spell". I didn't say it was common, but it happens.

My point was that I'd rather have those hot, swampy days than the -10F with 40mph winds that we get in winter. I do NOT handle cold well, never have.

I hate them both nearly equally, but winter just barely wins out.
Where I live now, I actually miss winter (THIS winter where it's rarely below freezing, not that abysmal Midwest "it's colder than the inside of my chest freezer" winter)

 

[Pohemi]

I would obviously prefer a drier heat climate than a humid one, but I would NOT mind never seeing a cold winter again. Ever.

I spent a few months over several winters in southern Cali and wish I had never had to leave. The climate was beautiful. The summers are dry there as well.

 

[Captante]

Nope I'm calling BS. I don't believe for a second that dewpoints of 87F, which would be 90% humidity at 90 degrees, are anything close to common around the Great Lakes.

We get those conditions in New England too EVERY summer that I've been old enough to recall.

The difference is that here they only last a few days (normally) NOT the entire season.


I do however admit freely that Texas sucks hairy donkey balls in hell as a state overall.

 

[nakedfrog]

I started basic training at Lackland AFB in San Antonio in August (many years ago, obviously), good times

 

[Pohemi]

The one time I was in Texas (for several months) was in Terrell, 40 miles east of DFW. This was probably 1997 or 98ish.

When I got there, they were at over a month with no rain, and a week of record temperatures. A few days later, it rained. For 2 days, and hard. After the rains stopped, out came the Texas-sized crickets and cockroaches. Then came the mice feeding on the insects. Never seen anything like that. It looked like the ground was shifting, there were so many.

It was admittedly drier than further south in Texas, but the heat never bothered me much while I was there, even working on 140F+ tin roofing. The weather didn't bother me, but fuck Texas none-the-less, lol.

 

[MrSquished]

It's 86 right now in the hottest hour, 59 dew point. A little toastier then preferred but ok.

I can't imagine some of the temps people are talking about here. I would simply not want to go outside and the poor dog would overheat in an instant. You could plop down New York City and all it's greatness down there and I would probably still not deal with it.

I would still prefer a milder climate like if San Diego and New York City had a baby climate.

But I'll take the four seasons we have up here than anything in the south any day of the week and twice on Sundays. For me and the dog.

But since climate change has been happening our winters have been getting milder so I mean there are some silver linings.

 

[lxskllr]

Bitching about heat/summer...pbfft. Come experience winter here, and see how much you bitch about the summer heat back home.

I'll take all the winter you've got. Right around freezing is a perfect time to get shit done, and teens/twenties is a good time to get the hard work done. Or you can go for a hike. No bugs, and no sunburn unless the sun's blasting on snow. Things I gt into today cause it's fucking summer...

flys
deerflys
mosquitoes
poison ivy
sweaty
I'll include rosa multiflora cause if the weather was decent, I'd be armored, but it's technically around in good weather

 

[SteveGrabowski]

"During a hot spell". I didn't say it was common, but it happens.

My point was that I'd rather have those hot, swampy days than the -10F with 40mph winds that we get in winter. I do NOT handle cold well, never have.

I don't buy that dewpoints of 87F happen there more than maybe once a decade at the very most, and even that often seems very hard to believe. I just came across this article showing Gaylord and Alpena in Northern Michigan setting their all time dewpoint records at 79F and 81F in a heat wave in 2020 for example, breaking roughly 20 year records.

Sunday wasn’t just humid, it was record setting humid

A few Michigan locations had Brownsville, Texas levels of humidity.

www.mlive.com

Also from that article:

A dew point of 80 degrees is very rare in Michigan, even along the southern border. I’ve seen an 80-degree dew point only two other times in Michigan, and those were at far southern cities.


Relative humidity is a stupid statistic for showing how hot it is and I hate that TV weathermen and such use it because it oscillates so wildly with temperature. Dew point is how you unambiguously tell how humid air is. I hear it all the time from people who live in Texas like we're at 70% humidity. Currently in my area we're very humid at 71F dewpoint and with a temperature of 100F, but that's only 40% relative humidity and sounds low but it's decently sticky outside right now. People in Texas make that mistake all the time too, saying it's 70% humidity when it's 102F which if it was actually true would be the highest heat index ever recorded in the US (152F in this example)

 

[SteveGrabowski]

We get those conditions in New England too EVERY summer that I've been old enough to recall.

The difference is that here they only last a few days (normally) NOT the entire season.


I do however admit freely that Texas sucks hairy donkey balls in hell as a state overall.

You gotta show me New England ever gets dewpoints in the high 80s. I don't believe that for a second. Not when 79 is the highest ever recorded in Boston, for example

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