God is real: SCIENTIFIC PROOF!

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schmuckley

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And I can prove that god doesn't exist, all observations show the universe to be logical, make sense, and self consistent.

Explain to me how the sun doesn't burn up the earth daily.

or that the moon doesn't suck in to the earth and cause catastrophe.

bcuz..big bang..yeah.that's it.

 
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disappoint

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Packing peanuts. Happy? There is no intelligent answer to your question as there is no observed data and, so far, no method of observation to peer beyond the edge as it is moving away at the speed of light.

If a god is out there he is being chased into the shadows by the advancing light. From a theological perspective, not a very satisfying thing for a god to do.

Well I for one disagree. I think there is an intelligent answer and I think you gave it. Packing peanuts is the perfect answer to his question. This universe is just a dirty 4D porno being shipped to some perv deity somewhere.
 

schmuckley

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The honest answer is: We don't know.

..and that is indeed the truth.But Paul98 can prove there is no God.

The fountains of the deep never broke open and flooded the earth..Paul98..were you there? Did you witness this NOT happening?

I'm saying that happened.;and there's plenty of evidence to support it.

also 2000+ years of written history.
the earth could be flooded to this day..if all the land was smoothed out..it'd still be under water.
 

Iron Woode

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science should be fighting ignorance, but far too many here prefer that ignorance fight science.
 

sandorski

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..and that is indeed the truth.But Paul98 can prove there is no God.

The fountains of the deep never broke open and flooded the earth..Paul98..were you there? Did you witness this NOT happening?

I'm saying that happened.;and there's plenty of evidence to support it.

also 2000+ years of written history.
the earth could be flooded to this day..if all the land was smoothed out..it'd still be under water.

Except there isn't any evidence for it.
 

Jeff7

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pretty much..yes
Do you have abetter explanation?
A computer simulation.
Aliens decided to create a simulation of the Universe. (We're doing the same thing.)
They just have much better computers than we do.


Or they made The Sims 27: Self-Awareness.




(Yes, really.
"If such simulations are possible in theory, [Nick Bostrom] reasons, then eventually humans will create them — presumably many of them. If this is so, in time there will be many more simulated worlds than nonsimulated ones. Statistically speaking, therefore, we are more likely to be living in a simulated world than the real one.")
 

WHAMPOM

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Shit! We are still working hard to understand the mysteries of this universe, super symmetry, dark matter. Anyone that claims to know for sure what came before or exists outside of our universe is full of shit.
 

Iron Woode

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..and that is indeed the truth.But Paul98 can prove there is no God.

The fountains of the deep never broke open and flooded the earth..Paul98..were you there? Did you witness this NOT happening?

I'm saying that happened.;and there's plenty of evidence to support it.

also 2000+ years of written history.
the earth could be flooded to this day..if all the land was smoothed out..it'd still be under water.
if that's the best you got you should quit while you're ahead.
 

WHAMPOM

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..and that is indeed the truth.But Paul98 can prove there is no God.

The fountains of the deep never broke open and flooded the earth..Paul98..were you there? Did you witness this NOT happening?

I'm saying that happened.;and there's plenty of evidence to support it.

also 2000+ years of written history.
the earth could be flooded to this day..if all the land was smoothed out..it'd still be under water.

The Sun circling the flat Earth at that time says different. Turtles all the way down.
 

bshole

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What lies beyond the universe? We are not sure but can theorize what lies beyond the universe that we know. Outside the bounds of our univsere may lie a "super" universe. Space outside space that extends infinitely into what our little bubble of a universe may expand into forever. Lying hundreds of billions of light years from us could be other island universes much like our own. But why cant we see them? It's a possibility that they are so far away that by the time the light of them reaches us, it may have lost so much energy that we cannot detect it or our universe may end by the time it reaches us.

Another theory is that we are creating space as our universe expands. Outside this expansion lies a higher dimensional space which we are unfolding into. Since it is higher dimension, we cannot see or detect it.

Yet another is that we are stuck inside a black hole of a larger universe outside our own.

In short, there are many theories about what may be out there. But since our view is so small and the universe is so vast, we may only be able to imagine what is there. We may be only able to see the effects on a large scale and theorize what is causing it.

http://web.utah.edu/astro/universe.html
 

moonbogg

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No, I just don't believe that scientists can know the extent of the universe. They CAN know how far a star is away from us, in which direction it is moving with relationship to us, etc.... I accept everything they observe as scientific. When they go into happy horseshit mode telling us how big the universe was, how it started, etc.... that is when I check out. I am agnostic on all that crap. They are basing all of those theories on what they can observe from earth. There is a much better chance than not that all their theories are for shit because of the limitations of their observation field.

I belive the universe is eternal and infinite. My mind cannot fathom a finite universe because I would have to know what is outside of it. If the universe is indeed everything, then there can be nothing outside of it, that does not compute for me.

I would guess the universe is eternal and infinite as well. Not our own bubble, that had a start to it, but something was always here. No way around that IMO.
 

SlowSpyder

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pretty much..yes
Do you have a better explanation?
Kent Hovind gets released this year
I like Kent Hovind.
He makes more sense than Liberal shills on anand..that's for sure.


I have some explanations that are just as good... whatever the Hindu story of creation is, or the Islamic story of creation, or the FSM's story of creation, of maybe we're just an experiment and our entire universe is basically a petridish being observed by higher powers that we cannot comprehend and haven't made itself known to us because we're too stupid much like we cannot make ourselves known to bacteria we grow in a petridish, or we're just in the imagination of a higher being, or some event happened that we don't understand with our limited perception and small amount of time spent trying to understand... etc., etc., etc.

Just because we don't know doesn't mean jesus did it anymore than it means zeus did it. When you figure each of the religions have an equal chance of being wrong (reality doesn't care who's the current leader of a popularity contest among humans) and see all the glaring inaccuracies of the bible, I'm not sure how anyone gets behind it.

Well, then again I do to some extent, it is emotion driven, it's the grown up version of a security blankie. Someone is in control, believers don't have to face their own mortality or the idea of my loved ones really being gone because they're all chilling in eternal paradise with the most amazing being ever, and believers can't wait to get there... just after they go to the doctor to get their meds to help extend their life here on earth every chance they get, of course. But trust me, they absolutely 100% believe eternal paradise with the most beyond amazing creator-god is waiting, they're just in no hurry to get there!
 
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SlowSpyder

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..and that is indeed the truth.But Paul98 can prove there is no God.

The fountains of the deep never broke open and flooded the earth..Paul98..were you there? Did you witness this NOT happening?

I'm saying that happened.;and there's plenty of evidence to support it.

also 2000+ years of written history.
the earth could be flooded to this day..if all the land was smoothed out..it'd still be under water.


Well, this has happened, right? The Nile is not really there.

http://biblehub.com/ezekiel/30-12.htm
 

Ruptga

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*patiently waits for the schmuck to take this as an endorsement of his idiocy*
 

disappoint

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Well, then again I do to some extent, it is emotion driven, it's the grown up version of a security blankie. Someone is in control, believers don't have to face their own mortality or the idea of my loved ones really being gone because they're all chilling in eternal paradise with the most amazing being ever, and believers can't wait to get there... just after they go to the doctor to get their meds to help extend their life here on earth every chance they get, of course. But trust me, they absolutely 100% believe eternal paradise with the most beyond amazing creator-god is waiting, they're just in no hurry to get there!

Gold Jerry Gold! Your name is Jerry Gould right? Well it doesn't matter I believe it is so your name is Jerry Gould now.

Just kidding but seriously:
Believe me when I tell you to trust me there are people who 100% truly believe in the Golden afterlife. Those people are called religious extremists, and they blow themselves up regularly to prove it. Some other religious extremist activities include bombing abortion clinics and believing nonsense in spite of evidence to the contrary.

It is my opinion that the truly mentally ill are people who:
1. Are a danger to themselves or others.
2. Believe things despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary and have a greater chance of becoming #1.
 
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Ruptga

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