God Metallica sucks

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Vehemence

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First four Metallica albums (Kill Em All, Ride the Lighting, Master of Puppets, ...And Justice for All) were amazing thrash. The black album was a very mediocre album, but certainly not what they were good at, which was thrash.

Everything they've released and done since has sucked, IMO.
 

Wheezer

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Originally posted by: dNor
First four Metallica albums (Kill Em All, Ride the Lighting, Master of Puppets, ...And Justice for All) were amazing thrash. The black album was a very mediocre album, but certainly not what they were good at, which was thrash.

Everything they've released and done since has sucked, IMO.

:thumbsup:
 

1sikbITCH

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Jan 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: 1sikbITCH
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
It wasn't a "self titled debut" as they had been out for a very long time before that.

Sorry, I got confused. But my point remains that the Black album is the shit.

Black can't hold a candle to the three before it. I'll take AJFA (nevermind the f'd mixing) any day.

absomuthafuckinlutely!

Well, Pabs original point still stands. They peaked at Black and its been downhill ever since.

I remember the bassist saying in an interview around the time of S&M, "Yeah, we sold out. Sold out stadiums!" :roll:

and once again I reply with an enthusiastic "absomuthafuckinlutely".

I can still recite nearly every song from the first 6 albums (including Garage Days Re-Revisited). Of the remaining 110 albums or whatever, I thought maybe 5 songs were any good. Of those 5, Whiskey in the Jar is about the only one which I REALLY like and that of course was not even an original.
 

spacejamz

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this 12" single is probably older than most posters on this forum...most of whom probably don't even know who cliff burton (
) was...

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edit: and the live version of Seek and Destroy on the B side totally blows away the studio version...
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: Saint Michael
I don't care. You make music, I listen to music, end of transaction. I don't care what you do outside of that.

I agree. Kind of like how I wouldn't care if Metallica and their bus went over a cliff.

Fvck Lars and fvck Metallica...but especially fvck Lars.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
It wasn't a "self titled debut" as they had been out for a very long time before that.

Sorry, I got confused. But my point remains that the Black album is the shit.

Black can't hold a candle to the three before it. I'll take AJFA (nevermind the f'd mixing) any day.

I still :heart: the black album too.
 

zach0624

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
It's probably pretty much all Ulrich. The guy just oozes bitch/asshole/jackass/NapoleonComplex constantly. It's really too bad that they became a bunch of dicks, I loved everything up to and including AJFA and liked everything then on, except for St. Anger. I think they reached the height of moronic-ness with SA and are now a bunch of idiots. The detuned mics, stupid thrashing, horrible snare-less drum...etc, ruined the whole album. They've wasted the last 10 years being idiots and I don't think it'll change. I'll try to listen to the new one when it comes out, but I am probably not going to buy it.

Pretty much how I feel about Metallica except for me they went down hill after their black album. The whole thing is a totally douchy thing to do. You're a metal band you're not supposed to get good reviews.

I seriously miss Master of Puppets.
 

zach0624

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Originally posted by: spacejamz
this 12" single is probably older than most posters on this forum...most of whom probably don't even know who cliff burton (
) was...

Text

edit: and the live version of Seek and Destroy on the B side totally blows away the studio version...

definetly older then me if cliff was still alive. He was probably the best metal bassist of his time.
 

freegeeks

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
It's probably pretty much all Ulrich. The guy just oozes bitch/asshole/jackass/NapoleonComplex constantly. It's really too bad that they became a bunch of dicks, I loved everything up to and including AJFA and liked everything then on, except for St. Anger. I think they reached the height of moronic-ness with SA and are now a bunch of idiots. The detuned mics, stupid thrashing, horrible snare-less drum...etc, ruined the whole album. They've wasted the last 10 years being idiots and I don't think it'll change. I'll try to listen to the new one when it comes out, but I am probably not going to buy it.

qft


I was a big fan up until black album. I saw them live in the early 90's and they were really good. Now they just suck and act like 5 year olds.

Master of Puppets and Ride the Lightning are 2 of the best rock albums ever
 

slayer202

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blah blah blah. they have a lot of good songs. so what if they are fucking stupid personally, not like i BUY their music anyway
 

Cyco

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Originally posted by: Wheezer
Originally posted by: dNor
First four Metallica albums (Kill Em All, Ride the Lighting, Master of Puppets, ...And Justice for All) were amazing thrash. The black album was a very mediocre album, but certainly not what they were good at, which was thrash.

Everything they've released and done since has sucked, IMO.

:thumbsup:
While their last great album was Justice, they do have a few tracks here and there since that are alright so I won't say everything they've released since has sucked. Having said that, the above is not too far off.

 

Platypus

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Well this is pretty typical of how Metallica has conducted itself since the black album.

James promises this CD will be a return to the old style.. much like he said with St. Anger and we know how that turned out.
I was a bit hopeful since James said he brought back his Boogie IIC+ amps which were used on the MOP and AJFA albums heavily (amongst other things) and used extensively on tour. However, issuing a gagging order on an album listening party (essentially making said album listening useless) is about the most unmetal thing I can think of.

Metallica hit their peak with And Justice for All in my opinion and nothing after that really grabbed me. A lot of Metallica died with Cliff unfortunately despite their record post death being fantastic. I try to separate art and music as much as possible so I try not to pay attention to this kind of shit but at the same time it gives you a pretty solid window into their motivation and that alone kind of ruins it for me. Metallica simply hasn't evolved with the times like other bands as old as they are have and I think it's showing here.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Wah wah wah

In their quest to become the single most hated band of the 21st century, Metallica invited some bloggers/reviewers to their studio to listen to 6 or so tracks. No NDA was signed or anything like that.

So the bloggers wrote up some reviews (which apparently weren't exactly glowing) and Metallica promptly demanded all the mean articles get taken down, or there'd be legal action taken. I mean, how can a group of grown men be such whiny babies? Every time they're in the news over the past 6 years it's been to bitch and moan about some inane, perceived problem they have with their fans, critics, whoever. This would be embarrassing behavior for Enya, never mind a supposed "hard rock band".

Since they have a few thousand hardcore "Metallica can do no wrong!!" fans I'm sure at least one person will chime in to defend them, but seriously, I hope the majority of people who hear about this find it as pathetic as I do.
Actually I think pissing off the pocket protector crowd and Internet shut ins is cool. Now they just need to come out with a good album.
 
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Originally posted by: Platypus
Well this is pretty typical of how Metallica has conducted itself since the black album.

James promises this CD will be a return to the old style.. much like he said with St. Anger and we know how that turned out.
I was a bit hopeful since James said he brought back his Boogie IIC+ amps which were used on the MOP and AJFA albums heavily (amongst other things) and used extensively on tour. However, issuing a gagging order on an album listening party (essentially making said album listening useless) is about the most unmetal thing I can think of.

Metallica hit their peak with And Justice for All in my opinion and nothing after that really grabbed me. A lot of Metallica died with Cliff unfortunately despite their record post death being fantastic. I try to separate art and music as much as possible so I try not to pay attention to this kind of shit but at the same time it gives you a pretty solid window into their motivation and that alone kind of ruins it for me. Metallica simply hasn't evolved with the times like other bands as old as they are have and I think it's showing here.

To be honest, the biggest problem I have with newer Metallica is Jame's vocals and lyrics. Judging by that little video on their site, this has not changed. In some cases, the vocals work well (such as with some songs off of the albums after Black, specifically their cover songs on Disc 1 of Garage Inc.), but I think it is in songs that are more traditional rock than metal, let alone thrash. He tried too hard on St. Anger, and it showed. If Metallica wanted to win people back, they should be doing an entirely instrumental album, maybe with some light vocals (like in To Live Is To Die).

That, or find a new lead singer. They've had no problem plugging in different bassists (although I'd certainly agree they haven't replaced Cliff), and even having someone take over for guitar work when James hurt his wrist or whatever.
 

HannibalX

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Hating Metallica is like hating Microsoft, Apple or Green Peace; it's popular so people jump on the band waggon.
 

biggestmuff

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
It wasn't a "self titled debut" as they had been out for a very long time before that.

Sorry, I got confused. But my point remains that the Black album is the shit.

Black can't hold a candle to the three before it. I'll take AJFA (nevermind the f'd mixing) any day.

I think you just contradicted yourself. A main point of the black album is that it is one of the best recorded rock albums of all time.
 
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