'Going Rogue'

[SilthDraeth]

Who knows whether this book is ghost written. I mean all of us that don't like Obama accuse him of having Bill Ayers ghost write his memoirs.

Tit for tat apparently.

McCain is a weak shadow of his former self. I am pretty sure Palin is what got him the votes he had.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
Who knows whether this book is ghost written. I mean all of us that don't like Obama accuse him of having Bill Ayers ghost write his memoirs.

Tit for tat apparently.

McCain is a weak shadow of his former self. I am pretty sure Palin is what got him the votes he had.

Uhmm, we know the book was ghost written. The ghost writer's name is Lynn Vincent. Ghost writing can cover a lot of different things and if you're talking about that we don't know if Lynn wrote the entire book or just provided writing input, you're right we don't for sure. The fact that our good friend Sarah was able to turn in such a substantial manuscript 4 months early while maintaining a busy schedule certainly suggests that the ghost writer had substantial input however.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: eskimospy

You're a moron.

Perhaps. But if I was an attractive female who was running for office though, you'd probably be making up stories about my pregnant daughter or my underage daughter having sex with baseball players to try to discredit me. Since I am a male, you just call me names.

The debate is over on this issue. There is no doubt Democrats hate women.

In my opinion the only real debate that should be going on here is how long you should be banned for. What you're doing in this thread is blatant trolling. The worst part is that it's not even clever or funny trolling, it's just stupid and boring.

Seems to be quite on topic. A thread about a smart powerful woman gets rerailed by insults and namecalling against her by the democrats. My accusations seem to be backed up by facts. The hatred shown in this thread is disgusting. There's more respect shown to a child rapist and fugitive than there is Sarah Palin by the left of this forum.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: eskimospy

You're a moron.

Perhaps. But if I was an attractive female who was running for office though, you'd probably be making up stories about my pregnant daughter or my underage daughter having sex with baseball players to try to discredit me. Since I am a male, you just call me names.

The debate is over on this issue. There is no doubt Democrats hate women.

In my opinion the only real debate that should be going on here is how long you should be banned for. What you're doing in this thread is blatant trolling. The worst part is that it's not even clever or funny trolling, it's just stupid and boring.

Seems to be quite on topic. A thread about a smart powerful woman gets rerailed by insults and namecalling against her by the democrats. My accusations seem to be backed up by facts. The hatred shown in this thread is disgusting. There's more respect shown to a child rapist and fugitive than there is Sarah Palin by the left of this forum.

If you knew the definition of trolling you would understand that it doesn't have to be off-topic. You know what you're doing, and it's dumb. I don't mind that you're trying to troll so much as I mind how badly you suck at it.

Here's a tip on how to troll better, you want to make your opinion horrible, but in a way that gets people to think that you or someone else could plausibly believe it. Saying things like 'There is no doubt Democrats hate women' is so outlandishly dumb that it's hard for anyone to get that angry at it, and it exposes your trolling attempt way too easily. The way you're doing it now just has you expressing horrible opinions in implausible and boring ways.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: eskimospy

You're a moron.

Perhaps. But if I was an attractive female who was running for office though, you'd probably be making up stories about my pregnant daughter or my underage daughter having sex with baseball players to try to discredit me. Since I am a male, you just call me names.

The debate is over on this issue. There is no doubt Democrats hate women.

In my opinion the only real debate that should be going on here is how long you should be banned for. What you're doing in this thread is blatant trolling. The worst part is that it's not even clever or funny trolling, it's just stupid and boring.

Seems to be quite on topic. A thread about a smart powerful woman gets rerailed by insults and namecalling against her by the democrats. My accusations seem to be backed up by facts. The hatred shown in this thread is disgusting. There's more respect shown to a child rapist and fugitive than there is Sarah Palin by the left of this forum.

If you knew the definition of trolling you would understand that it doesn't have to be off-topic. You know what you're doing, and it's dumb. I don't mind that you're trying to troll so much as I mind how badly you suck at it.

Here's a tip on how to troll better, you want to make your opinion horrible, but in a way that gets people to think that you or someone else could plausibly believe it. Saying things like 'There is no doubt Democrats hate women' is so outlandishly dumb that it's hard for anyone to get that angry at it, and it exposes your trolling attempt way too easily. The way you're doing it now just has you expressing horrible opinions in implausible and boring ways.

But apparently posts saying Republicans want you to die quickly are intelligent, well thought out, and interesting to you?

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: eskimospy

If you knew the definition of trolling you would understand that it doesn't have to be off-topic. You know what you're doing, and it's dumb. I don't mind that you're trying to troll so much as I mind how badly you suck at it.

Here's a tip on how to troll better, you want to make your opinion horrible, but in a way that gets people to think that you or someone else could plausibly believe it. Saying things like 'There is no doubt Democrats hate women' is so outlandishly dumb that it's hard for anyone to get that angry at it, and it exposes your trolling attempt way too easily. The way you're doing it now just has you expressing horrible opinions in implausible and boring ways.

But apparently posts saying Republicans want you to die quickly are intelligent, well thought out, and interesting to you?

Of course not, and since when has another person doing something dumb made the dumb thing you're doing any better?

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: eskimospy

If you knew the definition of trolling you would understand that it doesn't have to be off-topic. You know what you're doing, and it's dumb. I don't mind that you're trying to troll so much as I mind how badly you suck at it.

Here's a tip on how to troll better, you want to make your opinion horrible, but in a way that gets people to think that you or someone else could plausibly believe it. Saying things like 'There is no doubt Democrats hate women' is so outlandishly dumb that it's hard for anyone to get that angry at it, and it exposes your trolling attempt way too easily. The way you're doing it now just has you expressing horrible opinions in implausible and boring ways.

But apparently posts saying Republicans want you to die quickly are intelligent, well thought out, and interesting to you?

Of course not, and since when has another person doing something dumb made the dumb thing you're doing any better?

I'd respect your opinion more if it wasn't selectively applied.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Of course not, and since when has another person doing something dumb made the dumb thing you're doing any better?

I'd respect your opinion more if it wasn't selectively applied.

I don't care if someone like you respects my opinion or not. Either way it's irrelevant, what I told you is true. Either stop being such a shitty troll and learn how to start trolling these boards for real, or act like an adult.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Of course not, and since when has another person doing something dumb made the dumb thing you're doing any better?

I'd respect your opinion more if it wasn't selectively applied.

I don't care if someone like you respects my opinion or not. Either way it's irrelevant, what I told you is true. Either stop being such a shitty troll and learn how to start trolling these boards for real, or act like an adult.

You seem to be stalking me.. I'm getting a little concerned.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Uh ohh.. its #1 on Amazon's top 100.. and its not even OUT yet. This should send the libs over the top.

You going to buy it and more importantly if you do are you going to bother to read it?

Nope.. won't buy it. As I don't buy Glenn Beck's books, Hannity's, O'Reilly's etc.. I think the mistake people like you are making with Palin though is her ability to generate money for the GOP. Even if she doesn't run herself, if she can give a speech for 100k a pop for a Republican candidate.. she will be helping the party and making herself rich.

If she looked like Madeline Albright or Janet Reno instead of a slutty Airline Stewardess her book wouldn't seLL a 100 copies

But I understand why Democrats are so upset with her. You expect your women to be in the kitchen and not attempting to put you out of power. We saw what happened with Hillary attempted that, the party put her in her place. God forbid a woman has opinions and thoughts of her own. Hopefully women will begin to see the true colors of the democrat party.. sexist pigs

Lulz:laugh::roll:

The facts are there. Democrats hate powerful women. If they are attractive then they go into destroy mode.

Ok since you are being serious or pretending to be serious lets see some of those facts you allude too.

 

[Balt]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
But I understand why Democrats are so upset with her. You expect your women to be in the kitchen and not attempting to put you out of power. We saw what happened with Hillary attempted that, the party put her in her place. God forbid a woman has opinions and thoughts of her own. Hopefully women will begin to see the true colors of the democrat party.. sexist pigs

Laff. Don't strain your back shoveling all that bullshit.

 

[PJABBER]

I have always wondered at how little defense was provided to Palin by women's groups like NOW when the political attacks immediately turned personal. Palin faced the worst kind of sexists insults against herself, her kids, her husband. You can see these attacks in almost every anti-Palin post in this thread. Out of the hundreds of womens groups, who came to her defense? Though I am sure that we have at least a couple of women perusing P&N, we sure see the male misogyny in full display. And for those P&N women who read these posts and do nothing, do you feel vicariously liberated?

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: PJABBER
I have always wondered at how little defense was provided to Palin by women's groups like NOW when the political attacks immediately turned personal. Palin faced the worst kind of sexists insults against herself, her kids, her husband. You can see these attacks in almost every anti-Palin post in this thread. Out of the hundreds of womens groups, who came to her defense? Though I am sure that we have at least a couple of women perusing P&N, we sure see the male misogyny in full display. And for those P&N women who read these posts and do nothing, do you feel vicariously liberated?

Sounds a lot like the other side attacking Hillary Clinton.....

Palin is a moron and she brought a lot of the extraneous criticism on herself by bringing her family into the limelight, like parading her pregnant daughter around and crap like that.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Of course not, and since when has another person doing something dumb made the dumb thing you're doing any better?

I'd respect your opinion more if it wasn't selectively applied.

I don't care if someone like you respects my opinion or not. Either way it's irrelevant, what I told you is true. Either stop being such a shitty troll and learn how to start trolling these boards for real, or act like an adult.

You seem to be stalking me.. I'm getting a little concerned.

Again, old and tired. You're really bad at this.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Of course not, and since when has another person doing something dumb made the dumb thing you're doing any better?

I'd respect your opinion more if it wasn't selectively applied.

I don't care if someone like you respects my opinion or not. Either way it's irrelevant, what I told you is true. Either stop being such a shitty troll and learn how to start trolling these boards for real, or act like an adult.

You seem to be stalking me.. I'm getting a little concerned.

Again, old and tired. You're really bad at this.

No means no!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: PJABBER
I have always wondered at how little defense was provided to Palin by women's groups like NOW when the political attacks immediately turned personal. Palin faced the worst kind of sexists insults against herself, her kids, her husband.

Speaking of which it seems the First Dude has resigned from his job in the North Slopes and is going to be living off the proceeds Tundra Barbies book. Score!!!:thumbsup:

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: PJABBER
I have always wondered at how little defense was provided to Palin by women's groups like NOW when the political attacks immediately turned personal. Palin faced the worst kind of sexists insults against herself, her kids, her husband.

Speaking of which it seems the First Dude has resigned from his job in the North Slopes and is going to be living off the proceeds Tundra Barbies book. Score!!!:thumbsup:

Maybe NOW can intervene on Todd's behalf now that he's a little muffin-baking bitch living off his wife's book proceeds?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: PJABBER
I have always wondered at how little defense was provided to Palin by women's groups like NOW when the political attacks immediately turned personal. Palin faced the worst kind of sexists insults against herself, her kids, her husband.

Speaking of which it seems the First Dude has resigned from his job in the North Slopes and is going to be living off the proceeds Tundra Barbies book. Score!!!:thumbsup:

Maybe NOW can intervene on Todd's behalf now that he's a little muffin-baking bitch living off his wife's book proceeds?

Seriously, if you had to live with that Yenta for all those years and she finally made bank would you still work on the North Slope? Next for them is to get the hell out of Alaska and move to someplace with decent weather.

 

[PJABBER]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: PJABBER
I have always wondered at how little defense was provided to Palin by women's groups like NOW when the political attacks immediately turned personal. Palin faced the worst kind of sexists insults against herself, her kids, her husband. You can see these attacks in almost every anti-Palin post in this thread. Out of the hundreds of womens groups, who came to her defense? Though I am sure that we have at least a couple of women perusing P&N, we sure see the male misogyny in full display. And for those P&N women who read these posts and do nothing, do you feel vicariously liberated?

Sounds a lot like the other side attacking Hillary Clinton.....

Palin is a moron and she brought a lot of the extraneous criticism on herself by bringing her family into the limelight, like parading her pregnant daughter around and crap like that.

I am guessing you have no kids, or you have them locked up in a basement somewhere.

 

[PJABBER]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: PJABBER
I have always wondered at how little defense was provided to Palin by women's groups like NOW when the political attacks immediately turned personal. Palin faced the worst kind of sexists insults against herself, her kids, her husband.

Speaking of which it seems the First Dude has resigned from his job in the North Slopes and is going to be living off the proceeds Tundra Barbies book. Score!!!:thumbsup:

Maybe NOW can intervene on Todd's behalf now that he's a little muffin-baking bitch living off his wife's book proceeds?

Seriously, if you had to live with that Yenta for all those years and she finally made bank would you still work on the North Slope? Next for them is to get the hell out of Alaska and move to someplace with decent weather.

Look, kids! Equal opportunity lives! Misogyny and misandry in one thread!

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: PJABBER
I have always wondered at how little defense was provided to Palin by women's groups like NOW when the political attacks immediately turned personal. Palin faced the worst kind of sexists insults against herself, her kids, her husband. You can see these attacks in almost every anti-Palin post in this thread. Out of the hundreds of womens groups, who came to her defense? Though I am sure that we have at least a couple of women perusing P&N, we sure see the male misogyny in full display. And for those P&N women who read these posts and do nothing, do you feel vicariously liberated?

The attacks on Palin had nothing to do with her gender, and everything to do with her flaws.

You don't see womens' groups rushing to defend the woman who tried to shoot President Ford just because a woman.

And we don't have idiots saying that the critics of that would-be assassin are making sexist attacks, because she's not a right-wing figure, who benefits from the right-wing idiot mob.

 

[Arkaign]

Palin's problems will be the same from here to eternity, in perpetuity.

(1)- She is too socially conservative, which makes the independents run away. You can't win without the independents in the center these days. Either base is too small to win on party loyalists / ideologues alone. Obama had damn well better remember this or he's done in '12.

(2)- She is widely regarded to be unintelligent and uneducated. She consistently says things that are either completely false, or very poorly thought out. This won't scare away too much of the loyal base, but it is completely the wrong persona to have to try to woo independents. The nature of an independent thinker usually means a greater intellect anyway, as you're not tied down to arbitrary talking points that political parties glom onto. So many partisans of both sides exemplify the basest stupidity by their blatant hypocrisy in the examples of their support and/or condemnation. To a free thinker, this is ghastly. Her faux-folksy gee-whiz persona only adds to this problem.

(3)- Resigned from AK governorship after a very brief service. Again, this erodes confidence and the ability to garner support from anything but the 'base'.

(4)- Similar to Hillary and Obama, she does face legitimate challenges in that she has and will continue to face discrimination from a certain section of the populace. Racism and sexism aren't fairy tales. As an American, I'd love to believe that we were really moving forward away from these problems, but some weird post-2000 hysteria is catching on that is seeing the ranks of groups like AB and other xenophobic/violent affiliations skyrocket. The idea of a woman or a minority in a leadership position is anathema to many, and it crosses political lines somewhat.

In short, she is full of fail. Yes, the media will continue to parade her around. Yes, she will make a lot of $ from her books. Yes, she will continue to get coverage as she inevitably says more dumb things. Have no illusions that the left is 'afraid' of her in any way though. She is the best thing that can happen for the Democrats. The democrats have generally failed to impress, and imho are losing the independent support (the D's losing this support does not mean that they immediately shift to the R's however). There are lessons here for all. Democrats need to be cognizant of the need for both some party solidarity as well as the need to pass legislation that is well received by both their base AND the independents. They need to not be overconfident. The Republicans, I don't know. Right now they're going 150mph in the wrong direction. Getting hysterical and letting the fringe whackjobs take center stage is incredibly dangerous, as it will scare the holy shit out of the Independents they desperately need. The Republicans desperately need to purge the nuts and get a clear and honest message out, or they're cooked again for '10 and '12.

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: PJABBER

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: PJABBER
I have always wondered at how little defense was provided to Palin by women's groups like NOW when the political attacks immediately turned personal. Palin faced the worst kind of sexists insults against herself, her kids, her husband. You can see these attacks in almost every anti-Palin post in this thread. Out of the hundreds of womens groups, who came to her defense? Though I am sure that we have at least a couple of women perusing P&N, we sure see the male misogyny in full display. And for those P&N women who read these posts and do nothing, do you feel vicariously liberated?

Sounds a lot like the other side attacking Hillary Clinton.....

Palin is a moron and she brought a lot of the extraneous criticism on herself by bringing her family into the limelight, like parading her pregnant daughter around and crap like that.

I am guessing you have no kids, or you have them locked up in a basement somewhere.

No, I don't have kids. But when you parade your children in front of the public/media, you have to expect that they are going to report and that other people are going to start chiming in with their 2 cents.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: PJABBER
I have always wondered at how little defense was provided to Palin by women's groups like NOW when the political attacks immediately turned personal. Palin faced the worst kind of sexists insults against herself, her kids, her husband.

Speaking of which it seems the First Dude has resigned from his job in the North Slopes and is going to be living off the proceeds Tundra Barbies book. Score!!!:thumbsup:

There really is a sick relationship between the right-wing idiots who worship these creeps and the creeps who manipulate and exploit them with such contempt.

Add one more to the list of right-wing 'leaders' who have milked the flock, along with the televangelists, the Roves, the Bushes, Ann Coulter, and so many others.

It's a great racket - the more the flock is exploited, the more they blame the Democrats.

 

[JSt0rm]

she's just making money. Let her enjoy her time and think of how her retarded baby will be cared for because of the money she is getting.