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SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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In all seriousness, I think a lot of guys look at things a little too simply ("how do I get a girl?"). I thought that way forever as an adolescent until I figured about halfway through high school that the problem was myself. I wasn't funny, had no real confidence socially, wasn't overweight but had no athleticism to speak of, I was a bone dry intellectual for the most part. So I set myself to figuring out "people". Took several years and a LOT of failure, but I learned from every one of them and implemented fixes as best I could. Now it's to the point where just walking around campus I'll get several "looks" a day, can confidently talk to anyone, male or female. Can fluently flirt, crack jokes, etc, and just walk taller and straighter with less effort and brighter eyes. My girlfriend of over a year is smoking hot (although her elbows are undoubtedly too pointy for some ATOTers), and guess how I met her? She came on to me and I wasn't even actively looking for anything.

And none of it is game. The cool stories I tell are legit because I joined a backpacking/camping club and otherwise go out and do things when I have the time. I improved my jokes and sense of humor by watching several series worth of comedies I enjoyed. I started working out and changed my diet to improve my form, and the best thing is none of it was artificial. I genuinely wanted (and still want) to improve myself, and that's what I was doing, successfully.

So my only real advice would be improve yourself, and you'll eventually attract or be able to attract to kind of woman you want. You can learn game and for one-nighters it'll work if you do it right, but I'm just saying I don't hear of many happy long-term relationships that started out as game.

Game is to a rented car as the real thing is to a car you own.

Good advice overall, although there are several PUA's (pickup artists) material that will help you improve your initial game and long term relationship game. If you wanna know more PM me.
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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Good advice overall, although there are several PUA's (pickup artists) material that will help you improve your initial game and long term relationship game. If you wanna know more PM me.

Well personally I think if you view an LTR as "game" you're doing it wrong. I got lucky, GF and I are a natural fit everywhere that matters, and we had a year to get to know each other very well before we started officially dating. It's to the point now where we're openly discussing marriage/kids/moving in and such (years down the line when we're both ready) perfectly honestly. We love each other, see eye-to-eye on all major relationship factors and have common sense. That's all the "game" we'll probably ever need.

As for my initial game, as I said I never had a problem. I'm sure it could have been improved upon, but I didn't feel like putting forth extra artificial effort when I could just be me and get good (by my standard) results. I'm no James Bond, but I'd have no problem getting action if I were single. Game kinda turns the thing into a chore IMO.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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Well personally I think if you view an LTR as "game" you're doing it wrong. I got lucky, GF and I are a natural fit everywhere that matters, and we had a year to get to know each other very well before we started officially dating. It's to the point now where we're openly discussing marriage/kids/moving in and such (years down the line when we're both ready) perfectly honestly. We love each other, see eye-to-eye on all major relationship factors and have common sense. That's all the "game" we'll probably ever need.

As for my initial game, as I said I never had a problem. I'm sure it could have been improved upon, but I didn't feel like putting forth extra artificial effort when I could just be me and get good (by my standard) results. I'm no James Bond, but I'd have no problem getting action if I were single. Game kinda turns the thing into a chore IMO.

That's true, but you guys are still in the puppy love phase most likely unless you've been together >2 years (lower levels of NGF1 = reality sets in). That's when it gets hard.

Attraction isn't rocket science if you understand the psychological mechanisms that are evident in every emotional interaction in any relationship (male or female). While it's easy to just say, fck it, I'm already good, more knowledge and application is power. If your attraction to one another fizzles, do you know how to recharge it in the long term? That is key.
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
21,568
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That's true, but you guys are still in the puppy love phase most likely unless you've been together >2 years (lower levels of NGF1 = reality sets in). That's when it gets hard.

Attraction isn't rocket science if you understand the psychological mechanisms that are evident in every emotional interaction in any relationship (male or female). While it's easy to just say, fck it, I'm already good, more knowledge and application is power. If your attraction to one another fizzles, do you know how to recharge it in the long term? That is key.

In a nuthshell, do new things. Add variety, something neither of us has done before. Do things to keep the situation interesting and relatively fresh. Don't get complacent. As I said, common sense.
 

classy

Lifer
Oct 12, 1999
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You don't need a book on dating, you just need to know who you are and be confident. Just be yourself.......................
 
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