Non violent drug offenses are getting 10-20 years. I want to see 10-20 years for each of these felons.
You don't think that might have been the orange menace? Kinda sounds like his bully bluster...Real internet tough boy.
Please, don't act stupid.This is incoherent. No one "fired a slug into her corpse." There was one shot. She didn't die at the scene. Not sure what you are talking about.
I'm torn, really. Like the confused-liberal I am.
On the one hand, if you don't crack down on this sort of thing when it begins, history shows where it ends up. On the other hand, employing super-harsh sentencing for all these guys on the basis that that's what black people and minor drug offenders get is just 'levelling down', when surely the aspiration should be to 'level up'?
Same with the argument that the Trumpists not being shot by the police is 'white privilege', when not being shot by cops if it isn't 100% unavoidable, ought to be a basic norm, not a privilege. They should just be shooting far fewer people all round, not adding a quota of dead white people in order to be non-racist.
Need to work out who were the real organisers behind it and who were just sad husks of people who America has done a number on, who were sucked into it. And give appropriate sentences to all.
The fascinating thing is just how much his behavior mirrored that of the Capitol rioters... this complete obliviousness to how actions have consequences. He explicitly threatened to shoot another forum member and clearly wasn't expecting to face repercussions for it.
The very fact that you're confused is the fucking problem.
These people committed FAR WORSE crimes than the black people. That's why people are talking about harsh punishments.
If you cannot understand the difference that's on you. It is fucking insane for you to be arguing like this. It shows you fundamentally do not get the most basic premise of these situations and why people are condemning black people being fucking murdered for not actually breaking any law, but white people literally fucking trying to overthrow the government based on lies are not even having guns pulled on them in the first place. One white person out of thousands was shot, meanwhile one black person (LOTs of instances of it being a kid or a woman) surrounded by several large armed men gets shot/beaten to death.
Either you're a racist but simply too fucking stupid to realize it, you're just simply too stupid to understand quite simple arguments, or you're full of shit and are pulling the old "I'm not a conservative, I don't even support them! But...." nonsense. That's on you to deal with and I sure as shit am not going to placate your ego. Take your apparent soul searching somewhere else because you're literally arguing like a dumbass Q Anon conservative.
Hell, just listen to the motherfuckers and what they view as appropriate sentence for their behavior. But let me guess somehow BLM is just the same, right?
The very fact that you're confused is the fucking problem.
These people committed FAR WORSE crimes than the black people. That's why people are talking about harsh punishments.
If you cannot understand the difference that's on you. It is fucking insane for you to be arguing like this. It shows you fundamentally do not get the most basic premise of these situations and why people are condemning black people being fucking murdered for not actually breaking any law, but white people literally fucking trying to overthrow the government based on lies are not even having guns pulled on them in the first place. One white person out of thousands was shot, meanwhile one black person (LOTs of instances of it being a kid or a woman) surrounded by several large armed men gets shot/beaten to death.
Either you're a racist but simply too fucking stupid to realize it, you're just simply too stupid to understand quite simple arguments, or you're full of shit and are pulling the old "I'm not a conservative, I don't even support them! But...." nonsense. That's on you to deal with and I sure as shit am not going to placate your ego. Take your apparent soul searching somewhere else because you're literally arguing like a dumbass Q Anon conservative.
Hell, just listen to the motherfuckers and what they view as appropriate sentence for their behavior. But let me guess somehow BLM is just the same, right?
On the other hand, employing super-harsh sentencing for all these guys on the basis that that's what black people and minor drug offenders get is just 'levelling down', when surely the aspiration should be to 'level up'?
Same with the argument that the Trumpists not being shot by the police is 'white privilege', when not being shot by cops if it isn't 100% unavoidable, ought to be a basic norm, not a privilege. They should just be shooting far fewer people all round, not adding a quota of dead white people in order to be non-racist.
Need to work out who were the real organisers behind it and who were just sad husks of people who America has done a number on, who were sucked into it. And give appropriate sentences to all.
When she got capped, did the bullet push her back or was it a knee jerk reaction and she jumped backwards.
This is bullshit false equivalence. Minor drug offenses should even be charged, it's completely harmless and should and is being legalized round the world
The Angry mob that attacked police in an attempt to subvert democracy, are treasonous and some of them outright murderers.
This is also a bullshit argument. People didn't want more shooting. They wanted stronger security. Security was ridiculously lax outside. Better security would have kept them out, and Ashli Babbitt would probably still be alive. Security was lax not just compared to BLM protests, but IIRC someone reported it was lax compared to Bill Nye the Science guy event.
What is the Sad husk defense. I am not aware of that one. The mob gleefully looking forward to violence, there were terrifyingly destructive to anything in their way, they deserve the full weight of law, whatever number you think America done to them. We know the chief organizer, it was Donald Trump. He called for the protesters, met with and we have him on camera aiming them down to the Capitol buildings.
I'm torn, really. Like the confused-liberal I am.
On the one hand, if you don't crack down on this sort of thing when it begins, history shows where it ends up. On the other hand, employing super-harsh sentencing for all these guys on the basis that that's what black people and minor drug offenders get is just 'levelling down', when surely the aspiration should be to 'level up'?
Same with the argument that the Trumpists not being shot by the police is 'white privilege', when not being shot by cops if it isn't 100% unavoidable, ought to be a basic norm, not a privilege. They should just be shooting far fewer people all round, not adding a quota of dead white people in order to be non-racist.
Need to work out who were the real organisers behind it and who were just sad husks of people who America has done a number on, who were sucked into it. And give appropriate sentences to all.
These people don't get it. Trump was in the WH escatic over what happened. Was he sad that she died? Hell no. He's a psychopath. He doesn't feel anything.
I think the problem is is that there seem to be two broad groups in the "protest".
There were the fucking idiots that had no plan, wondered around taking selfies, chanting, stealing podiums and taking a crap on the floor.
And there was the other, smaller group that turned up willing to commit extreme violence and very much had a plan.
The former could probably be sorted with a minor sentence and are probably crapping their pants at the media putting their photos (that they put on social media) out there.
The latter should be locked up for a long time.
Poor Elisebeth? Hard core or casual? Sounded like she was totally down with "revolution". The woman who was killed is certainly on the hardcore side.That sounds about right. And while I don't think it they planned on it, the hardcore group likely took advantage of the "casuals" to get in where they otherwise would've been easier to stop.
Was she the "they pushed me out and maced me" girl?Poor Elisebeth? Hard core or casual? Sounded like she was totally down with "revolution". The woman who was killed is certainly on the hardcore side.
I think that the extreme faction absolutely planned to take advantage of the meat shield that the idiots provided.That sounds about right. And while I don't think it they planned on it, the hardcore group likely took advantage of the "casuals" to get in where they otherwise would've been easier to stop.
They were all extremists. They spent time and money to attend a campaign rally for a candidate who lost an election over two months ago. That's exceptionally exceptional.I think that the extreme faction absolutely planned to take advantage of the meat shield that the idiots provided.
Its why a bit of actual riot control might have solved the problem before the mob git into the building.
When the useful idiots actually realised that their was opposition and consequences to their actions I bet most would have backed off, then the extremists could have been dealt with with appropriate force.
Fox is making her out a hero and innocent bystander. 4 year tour of duty. She loved her president. Thanks Fox for cleaning that up.
Non violent drug offenses are getting 10-20 years. I want to see 10-20 years for each of these felons.
I get that their cause was batshit but public protest isn't a problem.They were all extremists. They spent time and money to attend a campaign rally for a candidate who lost an election over two months ago. That's exceptionally exceptional.
I get that their cause was batshit but public protest isn't a problem.
Waving flags and cganting is fine. I'd give a pass at peacefully occupying government buildings and having sit ins as well.
Beating people to death and searching for public figures to capture and do who knows what are way, way over the line.