Good deal on Satanic Bible, $3.46

[ValsalvaYourHeartOut]

Originally posted by: Caveman2001
... then maybe you'll re-evaluate your position on Atheism. I take it you believe you came from a rock. Now that's a crazy religion.

It's clear from what you wrote that you do not understand evolution and natural selection at all. Maybe if you took the time to research and understand the theories yourself, rather than accept ideas that have been spoonfed to you buy your religious teachers, you might have a more open-minded perspective.

Consider, the Bible's explanation for where women came from -- well, apparently Eve was derived from one of Adam's ribs. Okay, that sounds okay if it's 235 A.D., and you believe you can turn straw to gold. ...but it's 2002, people. Let me ask you this:

1) If Eve grew from Adam's rib, then she would have exactly the same DNA!!! This would mean that she would look almost exactly like Adam, just like identical twins. Clearly, something is not right here.

2) If Eve had the same DNA as Adam, then her sex chromosomes would be XY. Clearly, she would NOT be a woman if she had an XY genotype -- she would be a male. Where did that second X chromosome come from to make her female????

Wait, never mind. I guess when God made Eve, he took his Holy DNA Randomizer and mixed up the alleles a little to give Eve some genetic diversity. Then he got rid of her Y chromosome and replaced it with another X chromosome. And since God is omnipotent, he painstakingly did this for each and every one of her millions of cells. Now if God is so omnipotent that he can manipulate all that DNA, tell me -- how come he "inspired" a book so full of errors, contradictions, intolerance, injustice, and ambiguity (The Bible) that people who weren't born brainwashed couldn't possibly believe its validity?? And if he's so omnipotent, how come half the world's population (e.g. Uganda, Madagascar, etc.) living in 3rd world countries have never heard of Jesus Christ and the other 2/3 of the Trinity?? -- if He can do so much, why the hell can't he find some way for all those people to learn about him??? I mean, if he went through all the trouble of creating these people, wouldn't He want them to know about him???

All of this can be answered by the standard cop-out Christian response: "God works in mysterious ways." ... or "If we could answer those questions, we'd be God!!!" I guess, if these responses are rigorous enough for Sunday school, the ought to be good enough for us.

Valsalva

 

[localfinesse]

Originally posted by: Technogeek
Question????????? If one does not believe in God, Then how can one believe in satan????:Q

Very good question.

I like this site

 

[chrisjor]

An example of a "great modern Christian leader" here. I'm sure she would be appalled by this thread and would be able to enlighten us on the "truth".

 

[XFreebie]

ever heard of symbolism?

as for evolution, it does not explain 100% of how
the human eye (or for that matter most organs) are simply too complex to evolve


yes evolution weeds out the weak genes, but taking a look at how different humans are from all other animals, we're evolving towards an upper echelon. how many animal scientists do you know, or how many animals do you know that can create artwork and appreciate it, ect... its a free country so you can beleive what you want in your life, but its still God's universe, so be careful about how you want to spend the rest of your afterlife (eternity). unless you're a lucky existentialist, in which you will ceast to exist.

 

[Red Dawn]

Interesting item.

 

[kgraeme]

I had this book. I can't really recommend it, but it's basically harmless silliness. Most of it is mumbo-jumbo derived from a combination of the fiction of H.P. Lovecraft, Babylonian mythology, Wiccan mysticism, a bit of Aleister Crowley, and a lot of marketing hype by using the word "Satan".

I got a really good deal on the book. I stole it from someone else. It wasn't even worth that, IMHO.

 

[vaylon]

I got this book a few months ago, it is intresting reading. But not as bad as some would say. Quite frankly the book is just a work of fiction about the same as the old testament in the bible.
And to the point of the founding fathers, Jefferson was right, Organized religions become the antichrist by the power given by the masses.
Its the nature of the beast, power corupts, ect, ect ect.
Remember!!! hitler was a loyal and determined christian. Read his writtings, the man sounded like Falwell or Robertson. But then again the same words used today by all religious leaders, are the same words and phrases used for centuries. Moral decay, evil incarnate, lack of faith, heathen. Even bin laden used the same words to organize his followers.
In todays age I would say to all, when it comes to any religion, tread lightly and with a very open mind.
Things are not always what they appear.

Besides satan if based on the holy bible is not that bad, read and see what satan did in the hole book. NOT MUCH! God was a whole lot more evil than satan was. Our Impression of the devil and evil comes from the dark ages when churches gave satan a face and a reputation, otherwise known as dogma.

You doubt me? Read your Bible!

And before you condemn those who dont agree with your belief, read up on their beleif, you may get surprised at what you find.

NICE FIND

 

[Miramonti]

Take your opinions to OT, this is a deal not a debate.

 

[rochlin]

Posting a specific price from Half.com is really the same as posting a classified ad.
A hot deal should be available to more than one person (I think).
Even if you're just posting facetiously to get a rise from the crowd.

 

[ValsalvaYourHeartOut]

Take your opinions to OT, this is a deal not a debate.

 

[udonoogen]

Take your opinions to OT, this is a deal not a debate.

 

[DPOverLord]

I dont understand why yall are thread crapping. Everyone has there right to post deals here. It does not matter religion, item... etc. If you have a hot deal post it. I would rather see someone using these hot deals than somone crapping. If you dont have anything to say dont say it. I do not think these deals should be locked. I believe that all hot deals should be posted.

 

[cosmic1]

The Devil made him Do It!!

 

[chrisjor]

take you opinions to OT, this is not a debate.....enuff nef!!!!!

 

[Trevelyan]

Thanks for the deal. Even though that particular item does not interest me, the price looks good and therefore it may interest other people.


^^^ Now, was that so hard? ^^^

This is the hot deal forum, and let's keep it that way. If someone wants to post a hot deal for a Christian Bible, then that's great, and we don't need to turn it into a debate. But that's also true if someone wants to post a hot deal for a Satanic Bible....They have EVERY RIGHT to do so. So, let's be mature and tolerate one another, and don't think that by posting a message about some religious item (whether it's Muslim, Christian, Satanism, or Anti-Religion) in a forum that someone is trying to "force their beliefs on you."

Let's keep the hot deals up, and the off topic debates down.

 

[rondeemc]

If Eve had the same DNA as Adam, then her sex chromosomes would be XY. Clearly, she would NOT be a woman if she had an XY genotype -- she would be a male. Where did that second X chromosome come from to make her female????

Remember you get the appearance of a female in the absence of a Y. This is why a 45, XO or Turner's has female characteristics (forget about the neck webbing). Why not just reuse Adam's X and let lyonization do it's magic. Also an interesting scenario when talking about DNA is the assumption that the original copies did not have all the lethal alleles that we have today. But then if we are talking about an all powerful God then what ever method that pleases him right

 

[ScrapSilicon]

a simple bump

 

[FlasHBurN]

Satan>God

 

[DaddyCool]

FLAMING HOT!!!! *lol*
No pun unintended whenever not possible, never!


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Does anyone know of "other" religion that tries to convert as many people as possible, as desperately as possible while making them(converts) feel as miserably as possible???

 

[ValsalvaYourHeartOut]

Originally posted by: rondeemc
If Eve had the same DNA as Adam, then her sex chromosomes would be XY. Clearly, she would NOT be a woman if she had an XY genotype -- she would be a male. Where did that second X chromosome come from to make her female????

Remember you get the appearance of a female in the absence of a Y. This is why a 45, XO or Turner's has female characteristics (forget about the neck webbing).

If Eve was a 45XO (Turner's), then she would also have congenital short stature, shield-like chest, peripheral lymphedema, and fibrotic ovaries, but I guess we can forget about the neck webbing. Never mind the fact that Eve would NOT be fertile and could not give rise to future humankind.

Why not just reuse Adam's X and let lyonization do it's magic.

Yeah, I SUPPOSE you could argue that... So okay, Eve grew from Adam's rib...so clearly, God would have to zap out the Y and duplicate the X in each and everyone of the rib's cells. Then, he would have to insert a bunch of growth factors and differentiation markers like there was no tomorrow to get a rib to grow into a woman. Wait, how come God was capable of making Adam from scratch, but he had to use one of Adam's ribs to make Eve? I mean, if God existed and could easily make one human, why would he subject Adam to the torture of taking one of his ribs out? But that's just another leap-of-faith fact you have to stipulate, and it gets more and more ridiculous, especially when you have to account for all the other inconsistencies with genetic theory. In fact, you could probably even make an argument for human cloning, since that's essentially what was done to Adam. Ouch.

Valsalva

 

[DielsAlder]

Originally posted by: rondeemc
If Eve had the same DNA as Adam, then her sex chromosomes would be XY. Clearly, she would NOT be a woman if she had an XY genotype -- she would be a male. Where did that second X chromosome come from to make her female????

Remember you get the appearance of a female in the absence of a Y. This is why a 45, XO or Turner's has female characteristics (forget about the neck webbing). Why not just reuse Adam's X and let lyonization do it's magic. Also an interesting scenario when talking about DNA is the assumption that the original copies did not have all the lethal alleles that we have today. But then if we are talking about an all powerful God then what ever method that pleases him right

This explanation again relies and assumes an all-powerful God. What is the point of your pretentious use of genetic terms (such as lyonization), and reasoning, that does not arrive at a consistent scientific conclusion? Your conclusion is essentially-- "God Almighty works in mysterious ways." That is not science!

Next time, be before you post, you should consider your argument more carefully instead of using your superficial knowledge of science to throw around a few buzz words to make yourself look "smart."

 

[DaddyCool]

Anyone Seen Bedazzled??

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[Caveman2001]

ValsalvaYourHeartOut said,

It's clear from what you wrote that you do not understand evolution and natural selection at all. Maybe if you took the time to research and understand the theories yourself, rather than accept ideas that have been spoonfed to you buy your religious teachers, you might have a more open-minded perspective.

Dude, if you believe there is no such thing as a creator, that's fine, but don't try to tell me or anyone here that somehow your theory or theories are scientific at all. Here's your problem which you appearantly don't even know. If you believe in "natural selection", you are talking MICRO-evolution. I have no problem with natural selection because it's observable science (i.e. lame duck won't last long in the wilderness). However, to throw in a GIANT leap of faith and say based on natural selection evolution is true is completely proposterous. You see, you evolutionists like to cloud peoples mind with a little truth and a lot of belief. You believe because natural selection exists that somehow that proves that MACRO-evolution (i.e. we came from a rock) must be true also. Man, that's as un-scientific as anyone can get.

Here's a great example of why evolutionists are clearly NOT being scientific:

Biologists date index fossels by the layer of rock they are found in. Geologists date the rock layers by what kind of index fossils they find. Folks, this is called CIRCULAR REASONING. I wonder if you even knew that Valsalva. So how old is that rock or fossil?


Valsava,

Link or display one shred of proof that MACRO-evolution is correct. You can't! You know why? Because it's not provable to date. You have to simply BELEIVE it's true, just like a Christian BELEIVES in God. Don't even try to talk about science with your evolutionary propaganda. At least a Christian will tell you up front you have to have FAITH, and won't try to lie about it.

 

[rondeemc]

Next time, be before you post, you should consider your argument more carefully instead of using your superficial knowledge of science to throw around a few buzz words to make yourself look "smart."

You caught me I guess I haven't learned anything in the 20 years I have been managing both cytogenetic and biochemical genetic laboratories.

 

[XFreebie]

d00d, cpu's evolve, that's why they get faster and faster! has nothing to do with design, cuz all machines evolve and soon they will replace the humans thru natural selection.

supporters of natural selection will not mind alien invasions, especially the one in 2012...