Good enough reason to do SB-E?

[Fun Guy]

I've got 8 x 4GB DIMMS, which would give me 32GB of quad-channel DDR3-1333 PC3-10666 on my new system. If I just go for LGA1155, I only get 16GB of dual-channel...

I have not yet purchased anything for this new system, except the RAM, so....is this a good enough reason to go SB-E?

 

[Markfw]

I think that would be 32 gig of quad-channel ram, yes ????

And the answer is no, not a good enough reason.

 

[greenhawk]

which would give me 32GB of triple-channel DDR3-1333 PC3-10666 on my new system. If I just go for LGA1155, I only get 16GB of dual-channel...

SB-E is QUAD channel, not tripple.

As to being a reason to go SB-E, why get the ram before knowing what you wanted it for? if you go 1155 then you just wasted money.

 

[Fun Guy]

SB-E is QUAD channel, not tripple.

Hmm, okay, my sources were poor on this data...

As to being a reason to go SB-E, why get the ram before knowing what you wanted it for? if you go 1155 then you just wasted money.

I have 2 other computers I'm building that I purchased on-sale RAM for before I realized the MBs I have for them have a max of 4GB each (rendering the upgrades I had for them useless).

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

What in the heck will you be using your box for? IMO 1155 was the socket to get.

 

[Fun Guy]

What in the heck will you be using your box for? IMO 1155 was the socket to get.

Video production, some gaming. Driving 3 x 30" monitors.

 

[TakeNoPrisoners]

The motherboards cost at least $100 more then LGA 1155 motherboards, and the processors start off at $600 right now. There will be one released later that costs $300, I think.

You don't need the kind of memory bandwidth SB-E gives you, an i5 2500k on a Z68 motherboard will do just fine.

Maybe get an i7 2600k if you need hyper threading for your video editing.

 

[greenhawk]

Hmm, okay, my sources were poor on this data...

fair call then. On the face of the original post it looked borderline trolling to me. Tripple channel is the older i7 systems by the way. The source might be out of date in their high end hardware information.

Anway, if you want a new system, s1155 is cost effective. Besides that, looking at either holding on to it, selling it at a loss, finding someone that will trade for something you want or getting the SB-E board. But that last option you would be looking around $900 (in this country anyway, not much cheaper I think in the US) in costs. If you do not need the speed of quad channel or any of the other features the SB-E has, then a $200 cpu (2500K) does 95% of the same job (ballpark numbers after overclocking).

Currently RAM is in a glut stage and expected at last check to last until Q1/Q2 next year. HDD prices are nearly doubled thanks to the floods were they are made (mostly WD, but other suppliers of HDD parts as well). At last check the number being used is 25% of the industry for HDDs world wide. ETA is 6 months before production is normal again.

If you have a grand burning a hole, going SB-E is possible. If you care about value/price then, you will proberly not be going down that path.

 

[Fun Guy]

Thanks for your input. Like I said above, I really like the idea of having 32GB of RAM in my system vs. 16GB. That will come in handy for rendering I suspect as my videos get larger and my effects get more complex. Quad-channel is just a bonus - the real upside is 8 DDR3 slots that let me use the relatively cheap 4GB DIMMS rather than the stupidly-expensive 8GB DIMMS.

fair call then. On the face of the original post it looked borderline trolling to me. Tripple channel is the older i7 systems by the way. The source might be out of date in their high end hardware information.

Anway, if you want a new system, s1155 is cost effective. Besides that, looking at either holding on to it, selling it at a loss, finding someone that will trade for something you want or getting the SB-E board. But that last option you would be looking around $900 (in this country anyway, not much cheaper I think in the US) in costs. If you do not need the speed of quad channel or any of the other features the SB-E has, then a $200 cpu (2500K) does 95% of the same job (ballpark numbers after overclocking).

Currently RAM is in a glut stage and expected at last check to last until Q1/Q2 next year. HDD prices are nearly doubled thanks to the floods were they are made (mostly WD, but other suppliers of HDD parts as well). At last check the number being used is 25% of the industry for HDDs world wide. ETA is 6 months before production is normal again.

If you have a grand burning a hole, going SB-E is possible. If you care about value/price then, you will proberly not be going down that path.

 

[ensign_lee]

Are you sure you're actually ever going to use that much RAM? I rarely, if ever go above 5. 32 would be massive overkill for pretty much anyone.

 

[exar333]

SB-E is like a cheap professional workstation platform. If you anticipate needing a lot of RAM for your video editing and such, an 8-DIMM SB-E system would be great. More cores, faster cores, and more memory will only help.

 

[imaheadcase]

I was going SB-E, but changed my mind when i found out its $450 MORE than a SB setup.

That is $450 more with me using high end stuff for sb setup mind you, so it could be a lot more if you get cheaper motherboard.

Its just not worth it unless you specifically do the items in benchmarks it shows being "better" at. Or you got money to blow and its not a big deal. Even then, not really worth it, Ivy Bridge is compatible with higher end motherboards out now.

 

[TemjinGold]

If you got the money to blow (system starts at like twice the price of SB), go for it. If money is an object but you don't mind spending it, use the savings on a nice big SSD instead.

 

[Puppies04]

Get 1155 and spend all the money you save on a couple of decent SSDs. Unless you are making toy story 19 in your basement I can't see you running into much of a problem with 16gb of RAM

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

what's the max RAM x79 can support?
8x8gb for 64gb?

 

[Gikaseixas]

2600K, Z68 and good SSD's

 

[Puppies04]

what's the max RAM x79 can support?
8x8gb for 64gb?

128GB according to wiki

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

128GB according to wiki

wow, that's a decent platform for a dev/non-critical server.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I've looked at the benchmark results per the X79 boards. Quad-channel RAM shows a performance advantage of between 20% to 40% (based on my eyeball inspection of results in line-chart graphic comparison) -- depending on the block-size of data in the test. All platforms seem to converge in performance over some range.

This leaves some questions. We know that Ivy Bridge produced as socket-1155 will be Z68-compatible, but it has to be certain that the existing z68 boards will run memory only in dual-channel (or single-channel) mode.

So I suppose we should ask whether there will be any socket-1155 boards produced with quad-channel capability.

And . . . are there ANY other processors being released by Intel at the moment besides the flagship i7-3960X? I didn't see any. If you have $1,000 burning a hole in your pocket, be my guest . . .

 

[exar333]

I've looked at the benchmark results per the X79 boards. Quad-channel RAM shows a performance advantage of between 20% to 40% (based on my eyeball inspection of results in line-chart graphic comparison) -- depending on the block-size of data in the test. All platforms seem to converge in performance over some range.

This leaves some questions. We know that Ivy Bridge produced as socket-1155 will be Z68-compatible, but it has to be certain that the existing z68 boards will run memory only in dual-channel (or single-channel) mode.

So I suppose we should ask whether there will be any socket-1155 boards produced with quad-channel capability.

And . . . are there ANY other processors being released by Intel at the moment besides the flagship i7-3960X? I didn't see any. If you have $1,000 burning a hole in your pocket, be my guest . . .

3930k; between $550-600.

 

[hooflung]

I could max out 32G of ram and still beg for more. If you don't mind spending the money, go for it. Though you could get 2 PCs for the price and use one for an editor and one for a render box.

 

[GammaLaser]

So I suppose we should ask whether there will be any socket-1155 boards produced with quad-channel capability.

Socket 1155 can't support quad-channel. Adding channels requires more pins in the socket.